Al Krow

Pardon, what did you say...I'm not sure I heard you? Could you shout a little louder please? 😂

A lot of you will have already seen this and there's a lot of good common sense. And actually I really liked the tone on his bass at the very start of the clip!! But I totally didn't get his comment that active bass EQ makes no difference whereas EQ settings on the amp can result in a "wildly different tone" [8:20]. He also seems to be suggesting that speaker cone size [9:15] has an effect on tone - smaller speakers give rise to a tighter, punchier tone. And how does he manage to not mention the pre-amps whether onboard, in a pedal or in the amp? Surely one of the biggest determinants of tone of them all? So his claim to have gone into 'every single one of the big steps' that go into bass tone (and been viewed nearly 300,000 times) seems a little over-reaching.

Does kinda make very good sense though. Why would you want to put a cab sim through another cab? If you want to go FRFR you can do via the DI.

Too much squelch?!! Sorry, I'm completely unfamiliar with that concept! Some might even regard it as heresy! 😂

Congratulations and immense respect to Billie Eilish for "When we fall asleep, where do we go?" What an amazing creative achievement.

"We have several vocals, sax, acoustic guitar and most recently a touch of kick drum going through the PA with lead guitar and bass going through separate back line."

All good points John. Around £300 for a Mk III plus cover. Ok not a big difference at all if it's a better product. Power rating for the Alto is higher and it's a lot more compact (literally half the volume of the RCF 310, which surprised me!) and weighs 20 lbs rather than 28 lbs I'll have to confess that every little helps when it comes to portability as I'm the old geezer in the band but have, in the tradition of bass players, somehow managed to have responsibility for PA, lights and bass gear for both my bands!! Lol! And we are replacing our ultra-portable Behringher B205D so that will be missed in terms of convenience and space.

It's too light** and would be ineffective in such a capacity. **the technical term is ultra-portable.

Guess what the turned up on my doorstep today? Did anyone say ultra-portable?! Well it really is! Comes with 6 AA batteries and can live on a corner of my desk and I can listen through a pair of headphones. So in terms of barriers to getting to grips with the basics of synth, I think this little Stylophone has just removed a few

1. 00.00 baby cheeses 2. 00.43 back to the drawing board 3. 01.28 bass-related injuries 4a 02.38 double trouble 4b. 03.20 double trouble (8ve down) 5. 04.02 empty nest 6. 04.46 forced hibernation 4 7. 05.31 forced hibernation 5 8. 06.27 mouse only 2 driven 1 9. 07.10 mouse only 2 driven 2 10. 07.56 mouse only 2 parallel filters 11. 08.43 mouse only 3 12. 09.32 mouse only vocal bass Great stuff, Peter! I'm finding it really hard to select a top 3 from these samples, but if pressed I'd probably go for (1) as very synthy (7) as being a nice take on a non glitchy(!) OC2 and (10) 'cos it was a little different / interesting.

Nah, just means that an evolutionary biologist trying to become an expert songsmith with the aid of a ZX Spectrum was never going to cut it. Could maybe have predicted that when Trevor Horn asked the guy exactly what his qualifications were and he replied he'd spent most of his professional life working with worms. tbf - I've spent many a far worse 60 mins

@Merlino - thanks for posting those, some cool clips! What dial settings did you use for each, and what bass are you playing through? If the Wonderlove is the only one that sounds decent on funk/slap then for me that gives it an edge over the other two - that was definitely the most interesting and fun clip for me (I'm already glad I bothered to revive this thread!)

Looking for a portable, but decent floor monitor for our band to step up from the Behringer Eurolive B205D** which we've managed to get by with for the last 3 years, but seems we are now outgrowing What are you guys all using? Came across this Alto TS308. At Around £245 posted including padded cover it looks like very good value and is also pretty compact / portable. Any experience of Altos in terms of reliability or if you took a decision to go for something 'better'? Any views on the need to go for a 10" or larger speaker as a monitor? We're using RCF 310As as our PA speakers. We have several vocals, sax, acoustic guitar and most recently a touch of kick drum going through the PA with lead guitar and bass going through separate back line. Aside: I did suggest to our drummer that it might be worth getting a separate woofer / sub-woofer to put bass and drums through, but he felt it would be overkill and is of the view that bass cabs are specifically tuned to bass frequencies! So that told me then! ** as a fyi - the B205D will likely be going up in the FS in the near future, if anyone is looking for something ultra compact.

Well dB that's interesting to hear. However the entry fee for sharing such insights on this thread is a couple of clips I believe? 😁 And I know you have the tech to do it!

Yes @GisserD did. But I can tell you now his all time favourite filter is the MXR BEF and that he didn't keep the Micro-Tron III (although he hasn't tried the Fwonkbeta yet - I'll need to lend him mine at some point ) Excellent! What set up are using? 😂🤣

You can tell just from the height of the bars that the dynamic range has been curtailed - so it was definitely having an impact!

You still have the Manta right (appreciate that is digital)? I'm with you on not setting the Fwonk so low (and don't have an issue with spikes, but there again I have a limiter at the end of my chain). My current preferred setting is:

Absolutely right. I would have no idea how to get a sound out of it I'm sure or even which way around to hold it. Definitely need to leave that sort of thing to the experts.

Thanks for sharing - looks interesting: the Darwinian evolution of pop! ...ok I got to the end of it; and for the sake of balance, it wasn't as useful or as good as I thought it was going to be! But I'm sure others will reasonably disagree.

Great couple of posts, thanks Merlino! Prompted me to give this little thread a bump. Don't know whether you might be able to upload a couple of clips so we can hear how your are using the Funk Lite, Fwonkbeta and Wonderlove?

All fair points and extremely 'reasonable'. The same logic applies, of course, to getting more than one P bass though. Why bother? Just get one P bass and have done with it, right? Everything you can do on one you can do on the other. I'm sure you won't miss the missing 2" Just wear heels. PS if you want a more detailed explanation as to why the Korg Volca Bass as well as the JD Xi - see my earlier post when I discussed this in a bit more detail. It's all to do with the UI (which is a bit of pain on the JD Xi) and 'accessibility'. A parallel would be the difference between a Fwonkbeta and a SA Manta; one is a lot quicker and easier to get your head around; the other does a lot more for sure. Oh yes and one is analogue (Volca Bass) and the other digital (JD Xi) - but that may not be a biggie. I guess I'll be finding out!

Fwonkbeta is good. Think it's just edging it over the MXR BEF for me, right now (but it's close and I go back and forth depending on the bass). Be interesting how they both stack up against the 3Leaf GR2. I'm looking forward to finding out.

And when you got your 4th octaver Cam, remind me just what extra that delivered? 😄

Yes but you're like 6'10", so most things would fall into that camp for you. 😂