The Badderer

use a noise gate?

Bass players ultimately serve the band.... as do all the other instruments. The only instrument that would get to be picky about "their" sound, would be some sort of soloist or guest soloist, or someone whose sound is so distinctive that they would be losing something by not sounding like them. In short, if you don't make your sound the right sound for the band then ultimately it won't work out well for you, or your band. You do get to vary your sound and not just have one particular sound that is the ONLY bass sound. But each variance of your sound needs to have a purpose that serves the band or the song, otherwise, why are you doing it? Also looking to the future, there will be times a sound man will need to make adjustments to your sound to make it fit in with a particular band sound in a particular room that has difficult acoustics.

in a non-stirring way and with a friendly tone, I do appreciate people standing up for the driver, but will wait for your comments when you find a parcel being delivered for your birthday sat in your rubbish bin (i now know the parcel contained food, having opened it for my birthday) with whatever is in your rubbish bin soaking in to your parcel... when you know for a fact no-one even knocked on your door because you and your girlfriend were in all morning. I don't think your personal attitude at that point will be.... "I'm glad this driver has a job even though he is clearly being exploited by the company that give him work. I better not say anything in case he happens to have his contract terminated." I am saying this tongue in cheek, but I hope you remember this thread when your beautiful new bit of kit is left in a bin....

when you practice your brain will actually make you make mistakes when you are repeating a task over and over. it is important to keep repeating small sections of music even if you keep making some mistakes. Your brain is learning and finding the most efficient set of nerve impulses to achieve the desired result. Remember your brain has two sides, left side and right side. they both learn differently. One side is for short term memory, so you can repeat a phrase 5-10 times getting better each time as one side of your brain memorises and corrects the mistakes in the short term. But this information then needs to pass in to your long term memory. As you repeat past 6-10 approx times, you will naturally start to make mistakes. Keep trying for a few more goes. This is where taking a break after your fingers have really started messing with you is important. Play something else like a scale etc., then come back to the phrase repeat it again 5-15 times and then see how it's going. Now it may be worth leaving until tomorrow but make sure you practice the next day and keep repeating it. you should see a massive improvement. Also you have to start slow. if you try to play full speed it will be messy and you'll develop a load of fudging work arounds that you will then practice in and find it hard to unlearn. Start at 50% speed and get it 100% right. only step up in speed once it is guaranteed right at 50%. then 65% then 75-80%, 90% then finally 100%. By the time you get to 100% speed the muscle memory should be so good you can play it without even needing to worry it's going to be right. It's then just about fluidity and not being tense. Hope this helps.

go with what ever makes most sense from the great replies you will get here. my two bits of advice. 1. don't assume that because it sounds great in a shop / bass chat members house, that it is going to work in your band context. if you can do a try before you buy from your local music shop / other friendly local bass players and see what it's like that may save you from making a mistake. 2. give your band enough time to adjust from not hearing you out of an 8x10 before your 1st gig. if they've only ever heard you from an 8x10 the difference may take a few practices to get used to.

great to hear man!! it amazes me how it always takes a bit of time to really get the best out of the simplest pedals. hope you had a good time at the gig

wow this thread took a weird turn. last i'd read it was half way down the 2nd page.... guess i should have caught up!! didn't mean to resurrect anything that people were hoping would go away!! FWIW I took delivery from a Myhermes driver too and wouldn't ever use one of them either. the back of that van had the Bass being delivered to me (nicely packaged by a courteous BC seller) and then 3 or 4 50" HD TVs. Nothing in the van was secured, everything had obviously been sliding around all over the place and I was glad i wasn't the one about to receive the TVs (the intro scene from Ace Venture sprang to mind, link attached). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q6_9A90cUk

I agree with both of ^^^ it's the business model that needs sorting out. if they have XXX of deliveries to make in a day, but without the time programmed in to the delivery schedule to actually deliver the parcel properly then eventually their business will fail, because people will just stop using certain companies after how they deliver. Managers can't just say, here are 120 parcels, but if you take the time to deliver them properly you will be 2-3 hours late. With internet shopping becoming more and more common there's gonna be more than enough business around. As with everything there will be some people who want the item to be delivered professionally for cheap as chips, this is obviously not going to work, but it would just be nice to know when selecting a company, are they actually honestly going to try to deliver the item? Can they actually take the time to explore the simple option of knocking on the door to see if someone is in, or for the sake of making their rounds within an unrealistic time frame are they just going to dump it in the bin as fill in a load of bollocks on a card that says "While you were out"..... The item can be located in your bin. After a few years of this going on I think we'll find certain couriers go out of business because people just won't use them. It'll become, I'll give xxxxx a try, but i'll be buggered if I ever use Yodel.

As a name and shame addition, I just had a birthday present unceremoniously dumped in our general waste rubbish bin from YODEL. no attempt made to knock on the door loudly, as we were both in the kitchen about 4 meters away from the front door, with the door open. I understand that 1 min of waiting per address could add 1 hour if you have 60 deliveries, but surely the point of a delivery service is that you at least have enough time programmed into your deliveries to account for 1 min of searching at the property before dumping it in a BIN filled with RUBBISH... because it is a RUBBISH BIN!! If you don't want to spend the time searching then at least be honest enough to say, we offer you delivery at this price (probably £1 lower than the competition) but we will leave the parcel somewhere and won't bother looking for you. If you want your parcel to be delivered to you and someone to spend the time searching for you then please use our competitor who offers a guarantee to spend time at your property looking for you. This will cost £X more. Simple. But no, lets all just dump parcels somewhere and not give a $£&%.

[quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Sorry Blue but it's definitely right. You hear more low end at higher volumes, which I think is the reason for this phenomenon[/font][/color] [/quote] True. You hear more mids at quieter volumes.

yeah. at the start of the chain, assuming you aren't using an envelope filter. to get the drive sound you want it needs to get the cleanest signal at the start of the chain, otherwise if it has passed through other pedals that apply a level of filtering, the original signal is then altered, so it's trying to drive a standard bass signal, but receiving an altered signal, so the OD then doesn't react the way you would expect it to. The only exception to this is if you are running any envelope filters that require a clean signal to work properly. If you are then you'll have to consider your options more carefully. I had a revelation with my Big Muff by running it before my tuner pedal as through some reading i found out a Big Muff pedal works properly by reacting with the circuitry in your bass itself, so i ran a Passive Jazz straight into the Big Muff and it worked amazingly well like the sound i'd always wanted. Obviously this is Fuzz not OD but goes to show position in the signal chain is key.

Out of interest do you run quite a treble heavy tone or have a low amount of mids or lows? Do you have an EQ pedal? A lot of drives respond very differently depending on the raw sound going into them, so might be worth playing with your tone and see how it responds. Some drives can really suck the low end out so it sounds like our volume has dropped massively, when it's just the low end punch has disappeared. Sometimes you really have to crank the level / volume so that the bass still cuts through. I know it's a really stupid question but your Boss pedal has a separate Level control, are you saying your volume drops even when this is turned all the way up? I tend to use a blend pedal with a lot of my set ups so i still have some of the dry bass signal running through my sound, then i dial in more extreme settings on drives so that you still get that overdriven sound but with solid bass underpinning the band. The only drive pedal i've not really worried with this about is a Darkglass VMT Deluxe (i know there are many Bass OD pedals that also don't need a clean blend to sound good, before everyone posts saying how their OD pedal also sounds good without a blend pedal).

I found this article useful when starting out learning MIDI. [url="https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/aug95/midibasics1.html"]https://www.soundons...idibasics1.html[/url] In theory yes you are correct. The benefit of using a MIDI control system is that you can control multiple effects going on or off and the click of 1 foot switch. You can also control your amp with it. The downside is that it will take more programming than a standard switching system, but will come with added flexibility. If you are using pedals that do not accept MIDI messages then you can control them from the switchblade GL in simply an on/off loop. If you are using pedals that do accept MIDI messages, then you can have them in a loop just like a pedal that doesn't, but through a MIDI cable you can then send multiple messages to the pedal to do different things that you can program in. For example, if you were using a Strymon pedal you can have up to 200 presets saved on the pedal (depending on the pedal). When you program settings to one of the presets on the switchblade, it would include using the Strymon pedal, but through the MIDI cable can then tell the pedal which preset to switch itself to. So you have 1 strymon pedal, but up to 200 sounds that you can use thanks to MIDI. You can also program in specific control of parameters on a pedal through sending MIDI Control Change messages to the specific channel that controls a particular function of the pedal. For example if you have a delay pedal you could control how long the decay is, or a drive pedal you could control the level of drive. And you can also control time based effects through the use of either Tap Tempo, or if you're running a click, you can sync your switchblade to that tempo assuming who ever is running the click track can send the clock to your system. My advice would be to read up on MIDI before making any firm decisions, but it opens up multiple possibilities you just need to know how to think through pedals based on how MIDI works. I am still learning myself but just wanted to offer my thoughts as best I can. Apologies if i have got anything wrong (don't think i have)

keep them both. use the 78 for studio / recording for the tone that you love. Gig the modern more playable bass as no-one will really be able to tell the difference in sound in a live setting (they're both P Basses so will sound the same live). Get a nice comfy strap for using the heavy one in the studio etc. If I found the bass that had THE TONE i wanted for recording then i'd never shift it on. You can always sit down or find a more comfy way of using it if you have to do a long session in the studio. I'd also keep a light back up P Bass for gigging and leave the 78 at home (unless you don't mind having it as your backup bass at a gig)

Second a lot of what has been said above. My extra thought would be, if your Warwick Fortress plays like butter but has too much growl, and you're after a J tone, why not have an experiment with some different pickups/strings. If the tone is what you're after and have basses you like to play, before you go down the route of selling and buying, just have a play of some other basses to get an idea of what tone you're after, then try some pickups in that style. Worst that can happen, you lose the money for paying someone to fit them / take them off if you don't like them, and then keep them as spares, or sell them second hand. I'd bet you'd lose far less money going down that route (especially with 2nd hand prices at the moment), than selling everything and getting a bass that you fall out of love with.

..... is it after work now??

that's true. most of the last 5-10 pages had a lot of people talking about how they use different darkglass pedals with some stacking B7Ks or VMT deluxe with B3K and using the EQ of the 1st pedals to control how the drive section of the B3K sounded.

just saw i forgot to paste the link to the Darkglass talkbass thread..... http://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-darkglass-club-pt-iv-the-revolution.1056335/page-194

there is some interesting discussion in the final few pages of this talkbass thread. I believe the EQ plays a really strong part in allowing for much greater tonal variation. The B7K in whatever form it's in will have the same clank, but you'll get more options. I'd recommend keeping the B3K until the B7K arrives

i get where you guys are coming from and think you guys keep and excellent handle on all the crap that must go on, i just look at this issue from my personal area of caution and that's my personal reaction to seeing something that expensive advertised by someone i've never met and have no way of tracking down ever again.

I get where you're coming from, but on the internet you kind of have to pay your dues. If you're going to want to sell something on here, at least buy a few items from a few people 1st to get some feedback, and actually spend a bit of time commenting on some posts just to show you're a real person, not some knob in Eastern Europe / Western Russia / North Korea trying to post a basic advert for an expensive bass with not enough info or genuine knowledge to make the advert look close to genuine, just to scam some people. If they do have something to sell, then make it a really detailed advert with lots of photos and decent info etc. If you're just turning up with no feedback to flog a bass from a foreign country then you're going to have to make a really big effort to show it's a genuine sale as most people will behave with a fairly large amount of caution.

i have to say i do find all those 1st time posters trying to flog a £3-5K bass from somewhere in Europe a bit depressingly funny, it's not like anyone is actually going to stupid enough to buy one, but my worry is that at some point some poor trusting sod is going to get done out of a ton of cash. *note* I'd have no problems buying from a european buyer, but one who i've seen actually active on the forums posting genuinely good knowledgeable posts and had some decent feedback.

[quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][b][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=2758081"][/url]Modman, on 27 April 2015 - 09:02 AM, said:[/b][/size][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Definitely won't need anything else for long time to come.[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] [quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ha! We've all said [/font][/color][b][i]that[/i][/b][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] before... [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color] [/quote] YEP!!!! give it a couple of weeks!

nothing wrong with giving it a try, figuring out exact which effects and sounds you want / need for your band and then if you find some of the B3 sounds work, use it for those, and if you want a better sound quality for areas where it falls short, then just go and buy whatever pedals you think will have the sound you're after