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[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1417461218' post='2620598'] Wouldn't it need to be 16 ohm? Please correct me if I'm wrong! [/quote] Ok. 6 ohm + 16 ohm makes 4.36 ohm. The way I thiught about it was using the retro 210 being a 12 ohm cab & you can use 3 for a 4 ohm load, that would mean 2 make a 6 ohm load.

In theory you could add a Barefaced retro 210, as they're 12 ohm. But like is said, you've either not set things up right or your band needs PA. I've never struggled with the 2x10 version.

Have a listen to some of the original old blues folk like BB King, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Cream, Bobby Bland and also some of the more modern style stuff such as G Love & Special Sauce or The Black Crowes. I started out on blues. 12 bar is a good start, but it can get a good bit more complex if you wish.

That's the first time I've heard that song. I'm surprised Jamiroquai never covered it! Anyway, Youtube has a video of someone playing the bassline. Hopefully helps on any bits you're not sure on. Looks like he uses his RH middle finger for muting the low E rumble. http://youtu.be/GP_wZyNZeIY

2 options spring to mind. The easy option is like Steve said, get a booster or pre amp pedal. There's the Boss that he mentions, or you could go for something like a Sansamp or similar. The other option is a little harder & that's to fit an active pre to your bass. You'd remove the passive circuitry from your bass to do so, but it would mean you don't have to carry a pedal about to get more sounds from your bass.

Get a 5 string & be done with it.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1417336137' post='2619162'] Sorry I missed the joke first time. 🌚 [/quote] It's my sense of humour. Sometimes it's a bit too dry.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1417261147' post='2618617'] I know I'm being an insufferable smart arse, but I didn't, maybe it was mentioned in this thread, if it wasn't it should have been [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/247193-hits-with-cover-versions/page__st__30__p__2578219__hl__cover%20versions__fromsearch__1#entry2578219"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/247193-hits-with-cover-versions/page__hl__cover%20versions[/url] [/quote] I didn't know Rod's version was a cover until ET mentioned it. The posts were just my humour.

If you ca get them all to agree that covers are just for jamming on & not to play them down the local, then that's a start. Choose songs that you can make sound like what you want the band to sound like & don't play note or note versions.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1417251031' post='2618515'] Huh? Written 1967 by Mike D'Abo, demo version recorded but not released. Released 1967 by Chris Farlowe. Released 1969 by Rod Stewart. Is that not correct? [/quote] It probably is. But everyone knows it's Rod Stewart's song. Even the Stereophonics said it was a cover of Rod Stewart's!

I was going to ask what kind of band, but going on your last couple of posts I'll guess. it's a thrash metal band? 3 guitarists in a band are gonna either have you tearing your hair out because you can't hear yourself, or you'll love it because they know how to fit their sound into the band's sound & all work together. My word of advice. After the 2nd session, get rid of anyone who's not showing a keen interest (regardless of how nice a guy they are), it'll only hold your hand back from getting past jamming. & don't have more than 1 cover to jam at rehearsal until you get some songs written or they'll all start bringing "let's cover this" & before you know it, you're another rock covers band with a crap selection of songs (I've been down this road once before). Jam. Make your own grooves & have fun.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1417250341' post='2618506'] Two years before Rod Stewart was the Chris Farlowe version of Mike D'Abo's Handbags and Gladrags. [/quote] How did they manage to cover it before it was written?

Elbow's version of Byonce's Independent Woman.

[quote name='gadgie' timestamp='1417009947' post='2616022'] I'm currently trying to learn scales. However, what I'm having trouble with is what I should play in a minor or major thingy. I'm sure someone told me to play on the 5th fret for something in C, but can't remember if minor or major. anyway, played guitar for years knew loads of chords and were to play them, but didn't know the notes in the chord(s) doh! [/quote] A minor scale is the same notes as the major scale a 5th down. Eg, C major & A minor are all the same notes. It's worth getting something like the Guitar Toolkit app to help you look at scales.

If you've got the VPF filter turned anywhere up, it scoops your mids & boosts the bass & treble. This can make it get lost in the band. I used to play in a 2 guitar band (a couple of different ones) with a MarkBass 2x10 combo & had no probs being heard. The biggest issues being getting the guitarists to 1, turn down their lows & 2, turn down the volume. Raise your combo up a bit from the floor & if you've got the 2x10, put it vertically so one driver is above the other. The other issue is you may just be standing in the wrong place. If you're standing over the top of your combo, then it's a bit like trying to watch TV from above.

[quote name='UglyDog' timestamp='1416866429' post='2614592'] Given that the OP's "300watt bass amp is only ever at number 1", I get the feeling that excessive drummer volume isn't the problem. [/quote] He fails to tell you that the 300w amp is going through 4 8x10s.

It's a pain trying to play with 2 guitarists & get them to sound good together. It can be done, but it takes a bit of work. Might I suggest getting someone who knows a little about sound to come along & listen to you all play & let him/her have control over setting all the rigs up (or filling drums up with wadding). Even if you don't get the individual sounds you all like, at least it would be a starting point. Then you can tell the drummer the advantage of a lekky kit.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1416840739' post='2614118'] I don't have the gig for it... I initially wanted 2x210 which is also an option that I retain, but the 212 and 210 works great for me so that is my big stage rig and the 4 ohm, 8 ohm thing is what I've settled for in terms of power spread. Sound-wise, it is great so I am protecting the 210 when running high levels of a potential 750/4 ohms output. This is now also why I am keen to fine-tune my small lightweight rig so I can get the tone and clarity of 212/210 into 2x112's which mean the 12" have to work or be able to work harder tonally across the frequency range. Of course, I will have to compromise on the sheer weight and authority of the big rig sound, but there you go. [/quote] If you find the 2x10 that you like the sound of, then there's no reason why two of them shouldn't be able to cover all your bases. But then if the rig you have works for you, why change?

[quote name='Noisyjon' timestamp='1416831288' post='2613936'] The only reason I can think of is if you have a valve amp that only does 2 or 4 Ohm like Ampeg - It at least gives you options and a chance at keeping the cabinetry down a bit! [/quote] That's a good point.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1416826731' post='2613871'] I saw the advantage of a 4 ohm 212 at 600w being paired with a 8 ohm 210 at 350w. I could then run both on a bigger stage without the 210 getting a high load from a 750w delivery. I heard the 210 bottom out so I made the switch from 8 ohm 212 to 4... so the 4 ohm resistance would accept and handle the majority of the power. Like a crude cross-over effort, if effect. Whilst the 212 and 210 works very well..and as intended, the 4 ohms 212 on its own doesn't work as well for me. If I only used the 212...I'd want the 8ohm 212 back as I loved that sound from that standalone unit. [/quote] Why not go for two of the 8 ohm 2x12s you like?

I don't get the point of a company making a 4 & 8 ohm version of a 4x10 (or any cab that could be used with another) unless they are tonally different. When it comes to playing in a band, there's no noticable difference in volume & the 4 ohm cab is only going to make your amp run hotter with no benefits for doing so.

There isn't a "best", it's what type You prefer. If I had the knowledge to do what you're doing, then I would likely look at having bass, mid & treble controls. I'm sure someone with better knowledge on this than me will be along to give some helpful advice. Welcome to the forum.

[quote name='tonyquipment' timestamp='1416490794' post='2610769'] A pitch shifter isn't so great because the signal it's not do clean and sounds a bit weird Natural is better [/quote] I don't really agree with you there. It's really subjective to what you want to sound like & what style of music it is. In the OP's case, if he's playing rock, country or something that is guitar based then either a 5 string or a detuned 2nd 4 string is most likely the better option, but that isn't a given. There's a few rock bands that have the bass' core sound being the sound of a pitch shifter or octaver. In my acoustica folk band, I used a healthy amount of fx on the bass.

There's a markbass 2x15 in the classifieds within your budget. Not sure what it weighs though. Another option would be to sell your amp & buy my combo.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1416470658' post='2610447'] I'd be careful with that... Advertising in one's sig is not really the done thing old bean! [/quote] Unless the ad is a link to your existing Basschat ad. It was raised in a different thread (not in relation to mine) & I queried it as I had never heard of such a thing. It's perfectly acceptable to put a link in your sig to an ad you place on BC, but it's a Nono to post an ad in your sig that isn't in the "For Sale" section.