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We have not gigged for a while, one of our guitarists had a heart attack a couple of month ago and we had to cancel some gigs. We did one gig as a 4 piece that went quite well. This weekend we are supposed to be playing as a 5 again. The venue is one where we have struggled to hear each other in the past. Only vocals go through the PA and as the guitards are on either side of the stage and this stage is wide. I have pushed to go IEM or at least get a better monitoring system but there are two dinosaurs in the band. The singer is one and he is the youngest. My last attempt at suggesting IEMs was met with "I hate them and will never use them". The guitarist that had the heart attack has commented more than once that he has never seen anyone with more leeds, meaning why have I go so many? Of course they all turn to me when I have an Allen and Heath CQ20 and I love it, it is more than enough to put all of us through the PA and have a mono monitor mix each. I also have enough speakers including some active subs. That stays in the car as a back-up though I usually try hard to get the best from what we have but this gig I am letting them all get on with it.
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Yes I have a couple of the Classic DIs and they have been great. Very versatile.
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It varies by venue. some want 2 x 45 mins some want 2 x 60 mins. We have enough to play for about 3.5 hours. covering rock and pop from the 60s and 70s.
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Yes the only problem with the wide dispersion and being able to hear yourself more clearly is that you may think you are too loud. The first time I used mine I was told to turn up during soundcheck.
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Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
Oh yes. When I started out as an electronic test engineer/technician, that is a strategy you learn very quickly. One other point, if your speakers are active and include DSP, try to set them as flat as possible. There is no point trying to EQ out a peak or trough that is dialled into the FoH speakers. Mic technique. Our lead guitarist can really sing but its like he has had a row with his mic. Never closer than 15cm/6in, we often have feedback issues with his mic (Behringer XM8500). -
I have the CQ20 and I found that its best to set the gain via auto and then turn it off once set.
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What IEM system and frequency should I get?
Chienmortbb replied to bassace97's topic in PA set up and use
Very nice spec for a digital system and under 2mS latency/delay. -
What IEM system and frequency should I get?
Chienmortbb replied to bassace97's topic in PA set up and use
Well this is a can of worms. There are a few options but some are better than others. 1. UHF The better systems will be form the usual suspects, avoid anything on the 863-865MHz band. It is too crowded and you will get interference. Go for a Channel 38 or Channel 65 system. The drawback to Ch38/68 is that you will need a licence at £75 per year and they re generally more expensive. 2. Digital. The main options are 2.8GHz and 5GHz. These are also used for Wifi and the 2.8GHz is also shared with Bluetooth. Also be aware that there will be a delay/latency. The cheaper the system the longer the delay. These band are both licence free. 3. UHF 600Mhz. There are many systems on AliExpress that use the 500-600 MHz bands but these are illegal for use in the UK although legal in the USA. I am sure others will chip in, just wait a short while. -
Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
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Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
I would say yes but remember that most phones have a built in HPF. So don't trust the phone below about 120Hz. The iPhone 3,3S and 4 I believe were full range but the HPF was introduced in the 4S. The electret mics used are remarkable good. -
Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
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Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
I agree, they are reassuringly solid. However I think you meant Tonne 🤣 -
I love Skynyrd but Freebird is a long long way from my favorite track. With suoer talented guitarists like Skynyrd's, it is OK but any mere mortal axeman cannot do it justice.
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For me it is always one more.
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Our good friend @EBS_freak is a fount of (Either IBC or ISE information regarding matter wireless but in looking at various cost effective products available it is clear that the majority use the licence free 863-865 MHz band. These are often described as UHF. Many years ago I needed a wireless mic for a speech at an exhibition. Our good friends at Shure kindly loaned me a microphone operating in the 863-865 MHz band. Well it was a disaster. So many exhibitors were using this limited band that the mic signal kept cutting in and out. I checked with Shure and sure enough they, and everyone else around had the same problem. Now an AV or Broadcast exhibition will have a lot of wireless audio and other cr4p flying around. In real life, I did have to change out a Mic using the 863-865 MHz band at the local football club owing to interference from mobile phones. The last round of spectrum auctions put some mobile phones adjacent to the 863-865 MHz band. That was mic was changed to one the operated in a licenced band that unfortunately means an annual fee each July.
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Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
On the hill above my old house in Poole is Sontronics. I bought one of their SOLO mics when it was released. I love this mic as it sounded how my voice did when recorded with a really good studio mic. It is more akin to the 945, being a super cardioid but it does show that thinking out of the SM58 box works well if you take the time. Don't get me wrong the SM58 is a fine mic but the design is over 50 years old and what once was the outstanding performer is now amongst the also-rans. -
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Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
It must have been the pollen count but I was wrong in that it was the 912s I auditioned. I did an A/B against the HH Tensor TR1201. The bottom end of the 912s was marginally better than the HH, but overall sound was probably better from the HH. AS you may remember, in the end I decided that neither were worth the money and the 912 was particularly poor value considering the higher price. -
Just to add that the reason the amps cannot reach double the output is that they are current limited. As @agedhorse has described, SS amps are constant voltage, once the maximum current is reached it cannot supply any more current/power. It is more expensive to build a bigger powers supply. At 4 ohms, you are trying to draw twice the current.
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Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Chienmortbb replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
When I auditioned the RCF ART 932s, I found them a bit bright, harsh even (I broke my own rule there about using words to describe sound). -
It’s true that at the extreme, the voltage may drop a little but in a well designed power supply, it will only be at very high power, close to the rated maximum. Sag is really used to describe the phenomenon of older valve/tube designs that used thermionic diode rectifiers. In this case the voltage drops considerably rather than a small percentage. It was once thought to be an intrinsic part of “tube/valve sound”.
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Not only that but the microphones are electret and need a voltage to operate. Phantom power would be too much, you would need to step it down first to a few volts.
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However the OP said he would only be using one or the other. In addition many Solid State amps are 2.67 ohm stable with some stable down to 2 ohms.
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Keyboard players playing low down and dirty? Not if I am playing. I have enough trouble with the Rhythm Guitarist using all six strings and extra bass. It may work on a recording where each part can be finely controlled but even if she can manage it, synchronisation and spetral overload would not sound nice together. Either walk or sit the song out until it is resolved.