funkydoug

ahh! thanks Geoff. Didn't know that about the 100.

A bit of searching into how the 100 works reveals that its 100w amp is really 2 50w amps that are coupled to make 100w when only  using the internal and are split when an external is used. So, a very efficient external cab at 4ohms would be fed by 60w in the 120XL, while the internal would get the same (assuming the design is the same). Either way it is 120w, the difference being the amount of air being moved and the effect of that on loudness and tone.

Cheers!

Anyone tried one??

Wondering how loud they get and what the situation is with the extension speaker jack. Talkbass guys seem to think a 4ohm cab is best; does that mean the amp likes to run at 2ohms (if the internal is 4ohms) or just a bit higher if the internal is 8ohms?

Cheers all,

Doug.

hi,

just had a yellow sticky note appear from another BCer, which I dismissed immediately on auto pilot (just a habit as I'm so used to dismissing pop-ups!). How do I recover it, or find out who it was from??

Cheers, Doug.

still got this for sale Geester?

Thanks for the input guys. 

Feel almost shameful in saying I like the pre-shape!! 

Yeah the dual band comp is definitely part of it, and sounds like that was inconsistent... making it even harder to replicate. I think FEA make a pedal or two that are kind of re-boots of the SMX comp, but they aren't cheap!

Also glad to hear you also cut the red slider DiMarco. 

The quest continues, just  preparing for the inevitable

Gotcha! 

Cheers. 

Dropped the price, not sure how to change it at the top?! 

sold pending payment

just to state the obvious in case anyone is unsure: this has no power amp in it. You will need to hook it up to a power amp or other bass amp if you want to use it with speakers!

Returning to this question ...

I am now thinking that the magic that I love in the SMX is mainly the combination of the valve preamp, the 'shape' button and the compression, combined with the red 30hz EQ slider (which frees up the speaker for useful business, as far as I know .. although that may be entirely imaginary!). That seems like a signal chain that can be re-created. So, from a technical is there something happening in trace amps that is 'behind the panel'? What I mean is, are there components in the amp that the user can't see or interact with that create the tone??? Maybe the cabs are particularly well matched??

For what its worth, I did a recording session recently with my SMX combo and it just sounded amazing. No effort to get an instantly awesome sound! What wasn't awesome was getting it up 4 flights of stairs to the live room!

Cheers, Doug.

hi folks,

the clear out continues! I bought this only a few weeks ago here on BC and after trying out a few different combinations I'm now selling it  ... only because I'm so happy with my other SMX amp head,  and so won't need this after all. The SMX is the pinnacle of pro standard bass amp design (OK, I am biased, but I'm not the only one who thinks so!) and this thing will not disappoint.

Pics are here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tSo9GPDXLzEuKCFL-rhSMGd70oAYbO7E

The pre-amp for sale here is the top one in the pics, the one beneath it being the pre+power amp that I am keeping.

It will come with the rack ears attached, ready for action

Yours for £150 which is what I paid here recently, and I'm happy to courier it for a further £20 (or whatever you can get a courier for!).

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Selling this 'air head' Trace Elliot cab. It was a series 6 Trace Combo but as you can see the head has been removed. 

The cab can be used as a stand alone cab. It has the original 15 inch trace elliot (Celestion) driver that handles 200w at 8ohms. As with all vintage Trace Elliot gear, this is a really conservative figure, this is without doubt a very loud and powerful cab.

You could very easily re-attach a trace elliot amp using the screw holes in the side of the cab, and restore it as a combo (screws included) . You could also use any 19' amp head if you first added the rack mount frame /rails. They cost less than £10 and would make this compatible with any 19inch 2u rack item.

It is on castors, but the weight is very manageable. It also comes with a roqsolid cover which on its own would cost about £50. 

Pics are here: 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1Vxs__yP2SppfMf7kWbo75km-Lp7eU9Js

Courier... I'm  sure it'd be do-able. PM me if interested in a postal sale. 

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Hi all,

after much to-ing and fro-ing of amps, preamps and pedals the FunkyDoug household I'm now selling this lovely pedal.  I bought on BC only a few weeks ago but after trying out lots of combinations I've decided to stick with Trace Elliot SMX amp / preamp that includes a very good compression section, so I have no need for this now.

It is in absolutely perfect condition and looks as if it has never been used. Comes in the box with a power supply. Pics to follow.

I'm asking what I paid for it which is £120 plus postage.

Cheers folks, Doug.

Nice amp. This must be one of the later era ones, and it's cool to see the design evolving, kind of blurring  into what became the Ashdown amps. 

Good luck with the sale (have a bump). 

Writing the ad made me realise what a great amp this is. Gonna hold onto the amp and might move the airhead combo on at a later date. Glad I saw sense before it went! 

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Hi, 

Selling this fab and savagely loud Trace Elliot combo. It is a Series 6 1x15 combo that has been retrofitted with a BEAST of a head, the GP12 SMX 250. The head could be removed again and used independently if you wanted, and the remaining 'air head' cab could then be used as a regular 1x15 cab. 

The dimensions are nice, it's about as wide a rack unit (19 - 20 inches). To me that means it's easy to get through doors and stairs, which is unusual with powerful combos. 

Pics to follow. 

Very clean condition,  it represents an absolute bargain. Don't be put off by the 250watt rating, this is brutally loud. It also sounds amazing, especially with the valve preamp engaged. I suspect a lot of people think trace gear sounds dated, but that's a misconception, this sounds like anything you want it to and more. Truly a beast of an amp. 

Castors and side handles make the significant weight very manageable. It comes with a Roqsolid cover. 

I'm asking what I paid on BC when I bought it recently. Only selling as I've now got the rack mount SMX preamp and want to use it with a different amp/cab combinations for different occasions. 

Happy to deliver within an hour of Newcastle if you cover the fuel cost or to use a courier at the buyers expense and risk, although it may be too heavy for most courier deals. 

This is the thread I bought it from, for reference:  

Hi, selling a lovely Trace compressor that is an 18v pedal version of the compressor found in the legendary SMX preamps / amps.

It is in very good condition and is still in the original box with polystyrene inserts etc.

It is powered either by two 9v batteries or an 18v power supply (not included, but they're easy to come by).

They have a tilt EQ which is a very useful thing.

Pics are here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=16UYBqyoxS-AxYURU_HS6nZi5SIbCL_cH 

Ovnilab review is here: http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/tesmx.shtml 

Only selling as I managed to pick up a full SMX preamp that has one of these built-in. For those not familiar with these - a quick google search will reveal that they are generally highly regarded and are the bigger brother of the current ashdown dual band comp (which is only 9V).

£80 posted to your door

Hear Hear! great work and it is so refreshing to be involved (albeit in a tiny way as a member) in a community that is so well run. Thanks very much

Bought the Trace SMX preamp from Chris. Perfect transaction and really well packaged unit. Thanks

pm'd

Seriously, don't disregard the behri bd121 or the Dr J Sparrow... unless less spending a good amount of money is a box you actually want to tick.

Yes they have weaknesses, but they have serious sounds too. Try 'em out before you rule 'em out

not tried one but I read that manual and noticed something, would be good to get input from others on this.

The red stripe section is a mid cut / boost that goes from 200 - 800hz. It can cut deeper than it can boost. That's useful.

The surprising part ...

The bass and treble knobs on the right are shelving knobs that cut or boost at 30hz and 20khz respectively. Those are, to my mind, extreme frequencies. Is the intention that the they are used more or less as low and high pass filters?? That would seem to be the most useful thing to do with those frequencies. I guess it depends the on the Q / curve. It would leave the rest of the pedal 'flat' with no useful bass / treble control other than the ability to indirectly affect bass and treble via the active mid cut / boost.

Any thoughts???

They look great, never heard one though.

Pm'd

pm'd

Ok - thanks for clarifying that. Much appreciated