BigBeefChief

[quote name='dlloyd' post='312125' date='Oct 22 2008, 02:27 PM']It's clearly not saying don't go to the temple to worship. It means don't use prayer as an affectation to in some way improve how people think of you... prayer should be done as a meaningful, personal act.[/quote] I disagree. Read what it says: 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly To me, this is pretty damning to all those "shout it from the roof tops" types. I'd probably include Christian bands in this catagory. Every religion seems to cherry pick what should be taken litterally and what shouldn't depending on what is currently viewed as acceptable by society. I suppose the success of the bible is probably due to the fact that you can use it to argue any point?

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='312061' date='Oct 22 2008, 01:39 PM']I never managed to get past Matthew 6:5-6.7. Maybe my understanding of it was incorrect though. Anyone care to explain it the meaning of the passage?[/quote] Don't go to Church is the only message I can take from that. Luckily, being the bible, it will contradict that point later on no doubt!

[quote name='marcus bell' post='312017' date='Oct 22 2008, 01:12 PM']youve got a pangborn , you lucky boy...[/quote] Nah, it's just the cut of these trousers.

Jonathan King?

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='311987' date='Oct 22 2008, 12:41 PM']Does anybody remeber that "Rave Vicar" from a few years ago? He was based somewhere up north and used to put on Christian raves which drew hundreds on young people to the church. I think, unsurprisingly, it turned out he was shagging a load of birds and also flogging pills to the younf parishioners! I think he may have even got banged up for it! Fair play to him though.[/quote] Just found some articles about this. Looks like I made up the ecstacy bit unfortunately, but he was putting it about with a lot of the birds! The poor bloke lost his job over it! Now I'm not too hot on Bible studies, but surely God doesn't mind a bit of shagging? Just the regular type, not anal or anything.

Does anybody remeber that "Rave Vicar" from a few years ago? He was based somewhere up north and used to put on Christian raves which drew hundreds on young people to the church. I think, unsurprisingly, it turned out he was shagging a load of birds and also flogging pills to the younf parishioners! I think he may have even got banged up for it! Fair play to him though.

[quote name='Prosebass' post='311938' date='Oct 22 2008, 11:52 AM']plus Rastafarians saw Haile Selassie as a human incarnation of God....[/quote] He's a great runner, but that's taking it a bit far!

[quote name='mcgraham' post='311904' date='Oct 22 2008, 11:19 AM']Whilst I agree that one can be limited by lyrics, I personally think that lodging oneself or one's band into a given genre is [i]far [/i]more limiting than having a 'target' audience that the content of one's songs is aimed at. For example, in corporate (as in congregational) worship times we can (and do) play songs in a vast array of styles, because we are not bound to one particular style. It is the subject matter, not necessarily the vehicle by which it is conveyed that is key. It is not style over substance, the substance needs to be cohesive and logical, that focuses people on the reason they are worshipping and inspires them, and ultimately causes them to praise God. Whether you agree with this being good or not is irrelevant to the fact that this is what worship music is for. (Which is another reason why music is peripheral to true worship, but that's another topic). In contrast, I hear very few songs that actually make any sense at all (e.g. those in typical rock, metal etc), and those that do (ala singer songwriters) happen to be (to me) quite boring and uninteresting stories. I don't care about the girl you met on your trip to Asda that looked stunning but broke your heart and now you're singing about the whole darned thing, Mr. Ben Folds (maybe not singer songwriter but you get my point). I would call most secular music as being style over substance, at least to some extent, but that's just my opinion. Honestly, I can rarely work out what the point of the lyrics in secular songs are about. One last thing, just to try and explain where a good proportion of worship music lyrics come from. Some come from the Bible yes, but others are just people writing songs about God in their own way based on their own personal experience of how good he is. Much like singer songwriters do, and yes I acknowledge there are some weak ones. What is different though (again, IMO), is that the content carries a lot more weight than and as I do care about such things, I am instantly drawn in to listen to what they are singing about. Mark[/quote] It very much depends on what you want to gain from music. In general, my music tastes tend to lean towards songs that may carry a broad theme or feel, but happily use non-sensical lyrics, purely beacuse they sound good. "What a life it could be, if you could come to mine for tea, I'll pick you up at half-past three, we''ll have lasagne". Its great if you can have melody and a message, but I'd rather not sacrifice melody in order to get that message across. Most (non-gospel) religious music I've heard seems to use reasonably simple and familiar melodies (dare I say cheesey), which lend themselves well to having lyriucs superimposed over the top of them. Bearing in mind I'm not a Christian (and if I'm honest, have a real distrust of christians as a whole), I'll never gain any fullfillment from the messages contained in the lyrics. Thats not to say if its a good song that happens to be about God I won't like it. There's loads of great tunes that reference God in some form.

"Continuing to defend the faith with Brutal Death Metal" Brilliant!

The trouble with this music (and a lot of genres) is that its limited in its lyrical content. When I'm jamming on by bass or guitar, the tune often dictates the lyrics. If I was a Christian, I'd get p1ssed off trying to cram references to God, Jesus, a burning bush and feet washing into my songs. It's a bit like a metal songs which, as we all know, can only contain lyrics about sh1tting on gravestones and sacrificial self-harming.

Has it got one of those "progressive" vicars who wears a leather jacket and smokes weed and stuff? I love those! They usually get caught shagging the 17 year old daughter of one of the parishioners.

[quote name='BioBiro' post='311322' date='Oct 21 2008, 02:09 PM']My mate told me afterwards that it was one of the crazier church's he'd been to, as it startled me when I saw people getting on the floor, waving purple(?) flags around, saying "Hi!" to me even though they'd never met me before, and the lecturer-bloke telling me that as long as "I have Jesus in my heart, my finances will be ok" .[/quote] The next step is to persuade you to sell all your personal belongings and move to a commune in Guyana. DO NOT DRINK FROM THE VAT OF FLAVOR AID!

You sure do look like one funky m*****f***er!

If someone wants to be a christian, I'd rather them be a christian who plays bass! If you're into the whole religion thing, I suppose its great to have a regular gig.

Seems that you get a lot of technically gifted players going through church bands. Not seen so much evidence in the UK, but from the clips I've seen of US based gospel bands, they always seem to be pretty tight. There's no point arguing about the existence of God/the influence of Christians on here though. Mores sensible to stick to the music. On that point, it's really not my cup of tea. Not being a Christain, I couldn't get into a song singing Jesus' praises. It also has a slight ring of organised fun to me. No matter what you say, christian music ain't cool! It doesn't make me want to drink Jack Daniels and shout "f*** YEAH!". (although I appreciate that not everyone wants this). I would bet, and this is purely conjecture, that you are more likely to play an instrument if you're a christian. My evidence for this is purely anecdotal, but I think the regular exposure to actively making music (singing hymns) and the whole happy clapper/self improvement ethos certainly improves your liklihood of picking up an instrument. Maybe that's why you get a lot of decent musicians in these bands?

I want 5 knobs labelled as follows: Gain Volume Bass Crap Middle knob that increases the unintentional string noise and makes you sound like a prog w@nker (this would be constanly set to 0) High. I'd also opt for an on/off button. I'd like it to give out a loud dull thud, probably weigh slightly less than my Peavey Firebass and maybe have some of the glowing tube things (to fry an egg on).

[quote name='ARGH' post='309606' date='Oct 19 2008, 12:18 AM']So you have the same theory as me,less clothes,less washing,more nudity,more fun... Its great when JW's call innit.....Its my house,I can strip if I want...Its why I wear a Kilt,it f***s peoples head up,plus its comfy warm,and generally better for my sperm count than ruddy jeans (I hate driving in Jeans...nads clinging to your thighs..ugh![/quote] I've often thought it would be a good idea to put a miniture dog collar around my nads and old chap to stop the whole thigh sticking thing.

[quote name='Buzz' post='309577' date='Oct 18 2008, 11:31 PM']only getting dressed to face the world.[/quote] Is that weird?? Why would you get dressed? I haven't left me flat today hence I haven't even put a pair of pants on! If people come round, I'd put some boxers on, but thats it. Yes, I am naked as I type this.

[quote name='bassbloke' post='303513' date='Oct 10 2008, 07:11 AM']I waslooking at your avatar picture and was wondering if any other forum members practised bare-chested?[/quote] < Me. I think its weird that people wear clothes in their own homes. Why get them dirty? I only dress to go out. As soon as I get in I strip again.

You can say that again.

[quote name='bassbloke' post='309422' date='Oct 18 2008, 07:46 PM']Does anyone know who the drummer is in that last video?[/quote] Dave from up the pub.

You people are far to scary for me. I'd stand out like the Vicars son I am.

I will contribute! It would have to be for over 18's though!

[quote name='Prosebass' post='307977' date='Oct 16 2008, 04:27 PM']would you know how to ?.... [/quote] Nah. I think you can clog up your brain with too much useless information.

[quote name='Clarky' post='307745' date='Oct 16 2008, 11:25 AM']Just like rappers wearing a fresh pair of trainers each day, I just sell the bass when the string needs changing[/quote] A string never needs changing.