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Hi all, Just looking for some guidance with my pedal chain. Apologies if similar threads are already open, but I couldn't find any answering my specific queries. I have for five pedals - Cheapo tuner pedal, Behringer BDI21, Trace Elliot SMX Compressor, Boss Overdrive, Boss Flanger and Boss EQ. I'm not a huge user of pedals and have just accumulated these along the way. I'm going to be jamming with a grunge / alternative rock covers band I used to play with a long long time ago and all these pedals are required. I was thinking of putting them in the above order from bass to amp. Would this be correct, if there's such a thing? Thanks in advance! Paddy

The late great Duck Dunn also made some nice use of root / octaves towards the end of the Blues Brothers' take on Jailhouse Rock. Check it out - very tasty!

Sent you a PM. Would be interested in this if you are selling. Thanks, Paddy.

Great article. Stumbled upon this myself a few months ago when I was trying to find out who played bass on Jackson 5's I'll Be There. Never did find the answer!!

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1339661670' post='1692033'] I know this is going to sound bad but I've always thought PL was over-rated due to his early death, Thin Lizzy were average at best. Fat Mike on the other hand. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwGJ0EHdXDc&feature=related[/media] [/quote] I think it could certainly be argued that Philo had limitations as a bass player, but as a far as his song writing capabilities go, he was right up there. Early death may have created a bit of cult status, but IMO it's warranted due to the truckload of quality material Lizzy created.

Already said a fair few times, but Philo has to be the standard by which all bass playing frontmen/women should be judged

Somebody to Love by Queen..think there's a choir in that.

[quote name='el borracho' timestamp='1339623187' post='1691788'] Just measured my 94 MIJ 62RI which is also 1.75". [/quote] Thanks for that el borracho. I'm waiting on the ebay parts seller to get back to me on the MIJ neck they have. Probably could have done that before I started this thread !! At least I now know about Musikraft and have gotten some great advice from all the above posters.

[quote name='MrFingers' timestamp='1339610092' post='1691501'] I thought the "domestic" CIJ/MIJ has the correct 44.5mm and the "export" has the 42.5 mm. [/quote] Interesting That would seem to make sense, i.e. that the Japanese export model would not compete directly with the American Vintage series.

I'm with noelk27 on this one.... maple on a 2Ts and rosewood on a 3TS. It just makes sense

Just to briefly resurrect this....does anybody else out there have experience or knowledge of the MIJ Precision 62 RI? I've read in lots of forums that the nut width is 42mm. Jean-Luc Pickguard (just got that by the way ) has measured his and it's 44mm / 1.75 inches at the nut. I know there are a few different levels of the PB62, so perhaps this would lead to the alleged different sizes. However, all the new ones appear to be 42mm on Japanese sites, so perhaps they changed it at some time. Any MIJ experts out there?? I'm leaning towards the Musikraft at the moment due to the sheer breadth of options available, but cost could be a factor and the MIJ might just come in that little bit cheaper.

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1339531237' post='1690134'] +1 And did you not listen to the intro to Lounge Act? Flipping great. Also, Mike Dirnt, intro to Longview, also ****ing cool as. And Sid might not have been able to play well, but he could swing the thing at your head better than most of us. [/quote] +1 on this. Of course Novoselic and Dirnt aren't 'trained' musicians, but they play with heart and soul and aren't afraid to express themselves where appropriate. Springing to mind as some of Novoselic's memorable lines for me are Lounge Act, Lithium, Stay Away, Pennyroyal Tea to name but a few. From Dirnt Longview, Welcome to Paradise and When I Come Around are definitely not your bog standard lines. I once saw an interview where Novoselic talks about serving the song..says it all really. Also, surprised to see Jeff Ament on the OP's list. He was really different from the early 90's grunge players. I'm pretty sure there isn't one song on the 'Ten' album that has standard 4 string fretted bass. He tastefully used fretless, 12 string and 8 string basses throughout the album. On Vs, which I think he was fantastic on, he adopts an electric upright for a lot of songs too. Some memorable Ament lines, for me at least, are Jeremy, Breath, Glorfied G, Rats and Present Tense. Each to their own I suppose, but best or worst bass player lists are always going to divide opinion.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' timestamp='1339505574' post='1689415'] Just measured the nut on my '90 MIJ '62 RI with a ruler - it seems to be a gnat's todger over 44mm - which I think equates to about 1.75". No idea of the radius, but front to back it seems shallower then my other basses & has narrow vintage fretwire. [/quote] Thanks for that! I musn't have done my homework properly on this one. It's funny how 2mm can mean so much!! I'm now looking at either the MIJ or Musikraft. The Musikraft necks seem to have a huge amount of options, such as period-correct dimensions, clay dots etc, which as already said will really help it be accurate. Decisions, decisions..... Oh yeah, 'gnatt's todger'..classic

Thanks all for the helpful advice. That's what I love about BC...I came on with two options in mind, and now I'm looking at completely different options!

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1339493442' post='1689121'] Hi Paddy, ain't you got that finished yet? To me it wouldn't be a '62 with anything less than a 1 & 3/4 neck. All the Jap ones I've seen have been 1.5" but I don't know about the 90's ones. Stick out for a proper AV job IMO, they are so good ATB, John Edit: As Mr Fingers has pointed out, it's the 7.25" radius & the Vintage Frets which all combine to give it the right feel, size & shape. The Musikraft neck looks pretty close from the pics I've seen. [/quote] Hi John. A couple of minor hiccups (mostly lack of time on my part), but all is back on track! The bass really sounds great and nails the sound I had in my head. I've a MIM jazz neck on the bass in the meantime, but not liking it at all! I know you're right about getting the 1.75 neck, and I know I'd regret not doing it, so I'll shop around a bit more. The japs I've been looking at seem to be 1.625 (the standard p bass size I think). My 57 has a 1.75 neck and I really love the feel of it. As above, the jazz neck, while nice and fast, just isn't doing it for me. Real men need a 1.75!!!

[quote name='MrFingers' timestamp='1339493381' post='1689119'] The allparts neck is 42mm at the nut with a 9.5" radius (medium frets), and has a thicker C-shape. The "real" 62RI neck (vintage, CIJ and AVRI) is 44.5mm at the nut with a 7.25" radius (narrow vintage frets), and has a bit more shallow C-shape (I guess they are 0.10" apart in depth), so it's not just the nutwidth that's different... I have a neck from musikraft, they make the 1.75" nutwidth necks, with correct radius and stuff, and for a more than decent price (cheaper than warmoth), and it is truly vintage correct... You can read more on it [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/176706-64ri-precision-bass-build/"]here[/url]. [/quote] Yeah I know I was being a bit simplistic about the neck dimensions, but I am a bit simple when it comes to these kinds of things . Thanks for the musikraft tip-off. I must check them out. Your thread is great by the way. My "project" is purely just assembly though. I can use a screwdriver and that's about it All parts were bought and the wiring was expertly done by John aka KiOgan.

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1339493061' post='1689108'] I've got a jap maple fret board neck on one of project basses and it is totally superb equally as good as my two USA P basses. I also have an Allparts neck, that I have just attached to my latest project, this one is rosewood f/b. Nothing wrong with it at all, frets all level, truss rod works, I did have to do a spot of filing to the nut but that's not exactly an issue. It is good but not the same quality as the jap one, although I can't tell you exactly why not . [/quote] I know what you mean..it's that little difference you can't quite put your finger on! Thanks for the feedback.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' timestamp='1339492995' post='1689105'] Are you certain the '91 isn't 1.75" wide? My 1990 MIJ '62 RI has a 1.75" nut - did Fender change it that year? [/quote] All the Jap necks I've seen were 42mm at the nut, but I must look into that. Thanks

Hi all, I've been working on an 62 p bass assembly project for a while now and am looking for some advice on the neck. My options are: 1) A used Jap 62 RI neck from an ebay shop. It's from 1991 and looks to be in pretty good shape. 2) An allparts vintage neck. It seems to be identical spec to the above, but at half the price. Although licensed by Fender, this would be the only non-Fender part of the whole assembly. Although I hope to keep the bass forever, my past form tells me that I won't, so quality is important. I realise both necks do not have the 1.75 inch nut, but sourcing such a rosewood findgerboard neck with this size nut width looks to be way out of my budget. I haven't really skimped on prices for parts up until now, but with a weak Euro and the high customs charges in Ireland the assembly is fast becoming economically unviable. Does anybody have any experience of using either or both of these necks? Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Paddy

For me it was Krist Novoselic's line on the Nirvana song Lounge Act. The reason I bought a bass and the first song I ever learnt (about 2 mins after acquiring said bass!) I've broadened my horizons a bit since, but I'll never forget the original inspiration and still love the bassline.

Following a post by me looking for help on assembling a wiring kit for a 62 precision build, John offered his services, but not before firstly offering his advice and guidance. Not being at all techincally proficient, I jumped at the chance of getting him to do this for me. John expertly put the kit together for me and posted it back to me in a sturdy package. John was a great communicator throughout the process and kept me involved at every step. Overall a joy to deal with and will definitely contact him for the next project. I could not recommend him highly enough!

Hi Mick. Welcome aboard! I'm a newbie too. I'm sure you'll finds lots of useful information on the site, I know have.

Over the years I've owned two fretless basses, a Fender MIM Jazz and a Warwick Corvette Standard. I tried rounds with the Jazz bass and they ate into the fingerboard almost immediately, it was rosewood. The Warwick, which had an ebony fingerboard, actually came strung with rounds when I bought it new. The Jazz lasted a year or two before I had to get rid of it, while after 8 years the Warwick, which I sold only a few weeks ago, had barely a mark on the fingerboard. I prefer fretless basses with rounds, and now fretted basses with flats Bottom line IMO, rounds will eat into a rosewood fingerboard pretty rapidly. If you want to keep using them treat the neck ala Jaco or be prepared to buy a new neck in the not too distant future!