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[quote name='markstuk' post='1303481' date='Jul 14 2011, 01:02 PM']For me this is the "classic" Warwick.... And at a great price... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=145599&hl="]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=145599&hl=[/url][/quote] To be a "classic" Warwick, I would argue that it would have to be a neck-thru! Still a great bass at a great price.....

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='1302765' date='Jul 13 2011, 07:32 PM']For what you'd pay for a new Pro/Artist series Warwick you could have my German made 1990 Streamer Stage I (neck-thru and active)... [/quote] Now that is a proper Warwick! Having owned a few myself, I would recommend that anyone after a Warwick goes after something similar to that one i.e. a second hand german built top line model, preferably neck thru. After all, they are going so cheaply these days, why compromise when the top models are such good value? Personally I wouldn’t bother with the Rockbass or even the mid range models (such as the Fortress, etc) – they are nothing special IMO...!

Mars Cowling ('classic' Pat Travers line up) Tony Franklin

[quote name='arthurhenry' post='1300050' date='Jul 11 2011, 04:16 PM']Sarzo's rock star looks and posing have served him well over the years. He replaced Bob Daisley (a far superior player) in Ozzy's band and then replaced Neil Murray ( a far superior player) in Whitesnake.[/quote] Both decent bassists but far superior to Sarzo?? Have to disagree there! I don't see anything wrong with RS on this clip - quite restrained really, he just has aged better than the others!

Gigging for 33 years since my mid teens Highs: • Playing with a few really good musicians who should have become big names but just missed out, mainly because they just never got the big break (or because they were too pigheaded to compromise and take full advantage of the opportunities that they did have) • Playing in a rock/metal covers band with some really good mates up until recently that on our day were as good as any similar band that I have ever seen – I would challenge any band to live with us at some of the big gigs / bike rallies we played early on in our time together! • Same band – thru a strange set of circumstances we ended up playing a number of very successful and lucrative function gigs (playing a set pretty much based on Van Halen covers) that culminated in us playing at the Café Royale in London with Chas and Dave going on directly before us! • Playing last weekend at a blues festival – great venue on a decent stage with a big appreciative crowd – the band played great and stormed the gig, getting loads of great feedback, offers for other festivals, etc • Probably most of my best friends are people I have either played with at some point or met thru gigging (used to come to shows, in other bands, etc) Lows: • Missing out on a couple of really good gigs because of my rubbish harmony vocals • Stopped playing seriously for a little while in my early 20s when I first moved to London and quite possibly missed out on a few opportunities • Played with a couple of a**holes along the way (surprisingly few considering)

Just to clarify, no one is suggesting that you should copy every bassline exactly note for note and you certainly don't need to use the identical amp settings, use the same bass or wear a similar hat to the original bass player! I have two general rules of thumb: ‘good enough’ usually is not; and the difference between okay and great is largely down to nuance (but not as much as ability)……..

[quote name='Doddy' post='1298156' date='Jul 9 2011, 12:32 PM']But there you are talking about playing a part differently....Who is going to notice if you are fretting a low D on a five rather than drop tuning and playing an open string?[/quote] I agree that no one should care if you play an open drop D note or fret it on the low string of a fiver. However, there are plenty of (mainly) rock tracks that require you to utilise an open string, such as Slither or, say Mr Brownstone (to keep the GnR comparison going!

[quote name='Johnston' post='1298099' date='Jul 9 2011, 11:36 AM']So a load of pissed up punters who usually can't remember how they got home are going to remember that the bassist used an open note and critique you whilst drunk because you fret the note instead I play the intro riff to sweet child different from any version I know. Ironically I use open notes rather than staying around the 12th fret. In something like 8 years no one noticed. Not even the rest of the band. Heck I listened to my mates bands demo and he plays lines that are nothing like the originals. Now either No one notices or no one cares. Because they are booked up something like a year in advance and play something like 3 times a week and nearly every night in the Works Christmas do period.[/quote] So you play a very well known song completely wrong and you think that no one notices or cares?? You're having yourself on mate...........

[quote name='Doddy' post='1297790' date='Jul 8 2011, 10:56 PM']As long as you're playing the right notes,it doesn't matter what you are tuned to. If I'm playing a five string,like I do 90% of the time,should I still tune down a semitone to match the recording? There's no point,I've got the notes under my fingers anyway.[/quote] Sorry, but that is just wrong for a lot of riff based rock songs Try playing for example 'Slither' by Velvet Revolver, a fast open string riff in drop D tuned down half a step on a 5 string in standard tuning and make it sound right? It just won't work.....

[quote name='Johnston' post='1297774' date='Jul 8 2011, 10:48 PM']And do you think a load of pissed up punters would notice the difference?[/quote] Believe me, they will notice the difference if they've seen another band play it properly the week before!

I will be travelling up to Scotland this weekend with the Paddy Maguire Band to play three gigs in two days, in Edinburgh and at the Dundee Blues Bonanza: Friday 1 July (7.30pm) – Wistlebinkies, 4-6 South Bridge, Edinburgh Saturday 2 July (teatime) – The Dog House, 15 Ward Road, Dundee Saturday 2 July (9.30pm) – the Underground, 25 South Tay Street, Dundee You may not be too surprised to find out that it’s a pretty loud blues rock band with a great frontman. Anyone who is into that sort of stuff and is in Dundee for the Blues Bonanza or out in Edinburgh on Friday, please look out for us and come and say hello and maybe have a beer….. Cheers – Pete

[quote name='Doddy' post='1279132' date='Jun 22 2011, 10:11 PM']I think she's a far better player than Tal,anyway. Her playing on the Prince DVD 'Live at the Aladdin' is great. Her solo albums are pretty cool too.[/quote] I was joking of course - mainly as Pete had edited his original post to remove a similar joke, presumably to avoid upsetting anybody! Not a big fan of either of their solo stuff but both seem extremely capable bass players and both seem to work well enough in JB’s band……

Cheers for posting that - been looking for one of those...!

Good stuff – and apparently she didn’t get the gig by sleeping with the drummer….!

I think that I must move in completely different musical circles to some people here! I have never gone to a gig on public transport and can’t imagine getting away with turning up at a show without a rig. I certainly wouldn’t trust most pub’s PAs to be responsible for 100% of my out front sound and to be honest, it is usually much better in small venues to have most of your sound come from your backline and let the PA take care of the vocals, drums & keys, etc (especially for rock bands with reasonably loud drummers)! Even if you are lucky enough to find yourself working on a stage in a big room with a good PA and a half decent sound engineer, it doesn’t hurt to have a backline to give him an idea of what the band should sound like and therefore a reference of what you want him to reproduce out front….!

[quote name='bassbluestew' post='1271038' date='Jun 16 2011, 09:22 AM']Hey Pete, just missed you guys in Scotland, but next time your in Glasgow with Paddy - or anyone else for that matter - look me up and we'll hook up. S[/quote] Hey Stew Have you met Paddy then?? We haven’t got Glasgow in the book at the moment, but funnily enough we will be up in Scotland for the Dundee Blues Bonanza on Saturday 2 July. Also got a gig the night before in Edinburgh Dunno who you play for or if you ever get to the big festivals but we’re also playing the Maryport Blues Festival on 30 and 31 July. I understand that we’re also the house band for a late night jam session on the Saturday If you’re likely to be around for any of those drop me a PM and I will confirm venues & times and exchange mobile numbers and we can arrange to meet up for a beer…! Cheers – Pete

[quote name='bassbluestew' post='1270831' date='Jun 15 2011, 11:21 PM']And you would love it dearly...........................have never played a Burner so no idea what they are like, but my BSR is the poodles plums. S[/quote] I got the Burner for just over £500 about 20 years ago - really nice bass for the money, wish that I had come across it 10 years before! Bumpted into a guy I used to know at a jam session a while ago and got to play his really nice (American) Fodera - he wanted to know if I still had the bright red KS Burner and was talking about what a great bass it was! Would definitely like to try out one of the top of the range KS basses..........

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1267837' date='Jun 13 2011, 08:31 PM']He was rude and arrogant in places.[/quote] He's from New York - Whadaya gonna do about it?? After wading thru this (very entertaining) thread I do find myself taking a shine to Mr Smith. This is something that pleases me greatly as I bought a s/h KS Burner many years ago (still have it) and out of all the basses that I have ever owned, it is certainly one of my favourites! If I was ever going to buy a boutique bass I always thought that it might be a Fodera, but after reading this thread I would definitely consider a Ken Smith…!

[quote name='LawrenceH' post='1263444' date='Jun 9 2011, 11:35 PM']That is one talent. But producing incredibly complicated music that's original and distinctive is also a talent! [/quote] Actually I agree, just that simplicity tends to mean that the music can be accessible to more people and is sometimes more difficult - just how do you produce something fresh with the same four chords? Not arguing about Jaco thru, one of the all time greats.....

[quote name='4000' post='1263166' date='Jun 9 2011, 07:55 PM']Funny, because that's kind of the opposite journey to mine. I was listening to (not just hearing) bebop when I was 6, 7 or 8 years old. I knew who Ray Brown, Charlie Parker, Dizzy etc were earlier than that. I wanted to be Buddy Rich at the age of six or seven. Other than the Beatles (obviously) I couldn't have named a single musician in any rock or pop band. And yet strangely I happily enjoy "predictable" music, and as I grew older I grew to love it more and more. I remember hearing Deep Purple aged around 14 and thinking "damn that's simple....but it's fantastic!". I rate AC/DC or ABBA as high as any jazz artist I've ever heard; higher, probably. There's a tiny hint of the superior about your post. Ultimately your interesting can be another person's anything but and vice versa. At the point where someone feels that only more supposedly "sophisticated" music is better or more worthy, they really don't understand the beauty of music anymore IMO.[/quote] Great post - real talent is in producing simple music that is also original and distinctive!

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1261339' date='Jun 8 2011, 03:37 PM']Say what you like about Jaco but he was a total one-off, he had an original sound, he dropped jaws without resorting to gimmicks, novelty techniques and party pieces, he had a musicality that very few players ever get near. He really carved his own niche and I have massive respect for him for that. I don't dig everything he did but even the stuff I don't like is often compelling because he puts so much of himself into it.[/quote] What he said - spot on

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1260093' date='Jun 7 2011, 06:58 PM']I don't care if some don't like it. Its beautifully executed. No rhythm? Yeah. Like a train A lot of popular music is based around a definitive and explixit beat. Boom, Whack, boom, whack, boom whack. All beat and no grove. Listen to Bach. No beat there either.[/quote] Nothing wrong with a backbeat - it forms the foundation of 90% of the music that I love and to say that Chic, AC/DC, etc have no goove is just plain wrong! However there has to be room for the other 10%........

I don’t understand the problem that some people seem to have with Jaco I’m no jazz fan but to me it is obvious that he was one of the greats who transcended his instrument and his genre, just like Hendrix, just like Louis Armstrong and a very few others……

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