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out of interest @BigRedX - as well as getting it to work with your setup - how do you find it sounds? 

On 15/12/2025 at 11:07, BigRedX said:

Some of the synth modules in the Helix will do this.

What he says

That’s lovely Si! Matches thr gold PJ! 

35 minutes ago, Delberthot said:

After much debate I decided to go with the Line6 Pod GO wireless.

 

The Helix was just too big knowing some of the venues we play and too expensive to justify. Plus it has a ton of features that I will never use. I also considered the Boss GT1000 & Helix Stomp.

 

I only went with the wireless version as Andertons were doing it for £30 more than the non-wireless version.

 

I plan to spend the next couple of nights getting a sound ready for Friday night. I'm realistic, I don't plan to set up massive, extravagant presets. I only plan to create one preset with octave and flanger using snapshots to turn them on and off. I've got the whole Christmas break to get more involved with it before the Hogmanay gig and I've spent a good few hours so far getting to grips with what it can do in advance of its arrival tomorrow.

 

Thanks for all of the help and advice 👍 I'll let you know how I get on

top tip ...  retroreel with the wow/flutter off and the saturation up is a nice fattener  

49 minutes ago, Beedster said:

They’ll come after Basschat next 🤔

but 99% of people here aren't running the business.
I get where you're coming from though, there is the risk that this move could end up with hobbyists in the crossfire, or at that price anyone selling a secondhand car or posh push bike would be reportable.
buying secondhand stuff I don't have receipts for how much I paid or anything - but the taxman would have to show that you were selling your bitsas for profit, not that you're selling lots of nice bitsas - and the reality is if you set your music playing up as a self employed side hustle the costs of storage, strings, insurance, new pedals, depreciation etc would soon offset any potential profits you might be making.

18 minutes ago, Beedster said:

Yes, this is most certainly not a data capture exercise it is 100% aimed at revenue generation

Or 100% aimed at people currently avoiding tax on income … 

Depending on your point of view.  

I used to own a H9 - it was awesome. This doubly so!

26 minutes ago, Risk101 said:

So we had our big Christmas service yesterday pm and during the pre service rehearsal it was impossible to hear my bass though my IEM I think because everything else, including choir, drums, electric, acoustic, keys were so loud in front of house.

i ended up borrowing a cheap pair of closed cup over ear headphones, which worked well although I looked a bit stupid !!

I think IEMs have their limitations unless you've for custom moulds for your own ears? I'm using the KSZ10 or something like that!!

If you look in the iem bible thread it Depends on the seal you get - the tighter the better as you get more low end and can run them quieter.

with my iem I use the triple flange Christmas tree type ones which give a good seal and last ages - time to investigate earbud tips…

A long time ago I used to work for a business making t-shirts and selling them on eBay - the problem was that while we would pay our VAT and taxes and national insurance and run everything above board we were constantly being undercut by companies that would fire up, copy all our designs, flog them cheaper and then disappear - the only way you could do this is either slave labour, or avoid VAT by legal and non-legal means. 

Cracking down on this, and the likes small parcels of Chinese fast fashion avoiding taxes/import etc is really important unless we want to see a massive hollowing out of our society... So there is the likelyhood this might be rubbish for some hobbiests who flip lots of high value gear and don't keep receipts - but I kinda think the long term this is a good thing. It will protect jobs. 

Plus it's the data the HMRC are after for trends, going after Beedster who sold two Bitsas, or Dawn who chucked her cheating husband out and sold off all his precious fishing rods is hardly going to be cost effective... the guy flipping 4 cars a month, or the t shirt business turning over £1M+ a year and avoiding all taxes might be worthwhile their time... 

Small sound/big sound mini 

I would maybe use *both* drive and cab sim. Not sure the best cab sim pedals mind, tc impulse if irs, or broughton high pass/ low pass if doing basic chopping  thr ends off - the tonex mini thing might be cheapest smallest thing to give you a whole amp cab at end of chain? 🤷 

Or grizzly bass which has a top end roll off 

10 hours ago, Delberthot said:

I'm trying to work out if you're trying to be funny or not. 🤔

 

I am looking for an overdrive that will sound good to me when I am wearing my IEMs and wanted to know what overdrive pedals other IEM users were using

I think the point is what does the audience hear.

drives will often sound harsh - I would be looking for a cab sim or high pass/low pass after the drives to help things sound natural through iem, and front of house. 
 

otherwise my stock answer is ss/bs mini or clone of! 

7 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said:

I'm guessing Behringer aren't going to do the Lovetone flanger with the question mark on, that thing was nuts, a lot of fun. 

Irony being if Lovetone bring it back they will probably be buying the bbd chips from … behringer! 

21 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

Aionfx's description of the PCB says "Unlike Lovetone’s later offerings, the Meatball was not a fully original circuit, but rather a heavily tweaked version of the very first commercial envelope filter pedal, the Mu-tron III. While the core circuit is the very similar, the Meatball adds several new features including a clean blend, attack/decay controls, two extra range modes in between Hi and Lo, two expression controls, and an effects loop."

Given there’s not much new in analogue electronics, and given we are in a topic about behringer …. I think that counts for lovetone as an original adaptation of an existing topology! Something like the 3leaf Photon is similarly a refined version to the point it becomes its own thing 

1 hour ago, ped said:

In a sense, every env filter is based on the Mutron.

Not every one, there's a few ways to do an envelope filter electronically... the Meatball is a very very hyped Mutron 3 topology. 
Not that my pedantry matters, as we know from the 6 billion Big Muff varients tuning circuits and a few components being different values can make a massive variation on sound. 

9 hours ago, Quatschmacher said:

Try these too:

https://artisanaleffects.com

I think they are using Aion’s PCBs for at least some of their stuff 

26 minutes ago, ped said:

It's pretty cheeky of Behringer to say they've been on 'a proper mission' to 'bring back' a bunch of pedals that have just straight up copied

Do you think they bought one and traced it themselves or just used Aion FX's or someone on freestompboxes trace?!

9 hours ago, admiralchew said:

Interesting timing:

 

If it's a live brand it's a lot easier to send Behringer a cease and desist letter for using name and trade dress? 

Very cool

47 minutes ago, jimbobothy said:

Fretted (G-Lab BC 1 Comp - Creation Audio Grizzly Bass - Creation Audio Funkulator):

Isn’t there a funkulator in the grizzly?

7 hours ago, Al Krow said:

For some folk spending £900 on two pedals, whose job can be done by just one other which is well regarded and well established, for a fraction of the price, is also not going to be rational or potentually indeed

The bassrig stuff is modelling the preamp, poweramp, reactive load and cab sim that’s been tuned to match the original cab - it’s going to do one thing but it’s going to do it really really well.

the VTDI is a preamp with a simple cab sim at the end, I don’t know how complex it it is shape wise. Where I’ve seen an electrical examination of the VTDI the character knob is a variable eq curve that can dial in a more driven sound, or dial it out (b15 a like)

It’s a great pedal big “I want a B15 sound in a pedal” investigations don’t often mention the VTDI as an option. I think they sit in different categories, an Ampeg sgt would be a closer alternative- or if you really were after two bass amps on a budget the tonex one would probably do it digitally. 

Origin aren’t doing it in digital, are U.K. made and are aiming at a level of “let’s engineer this thing well” where price point and value for money aren’t their primary driver of what they are doing. 

3 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

Exactly thanks. Two Origin pedals under one hood on the highly regarded Sansamp pedal, which is often available for around £150 used. So, back to my question of whether this is a material step up over the much loved VT Bass DI? Look forward to an unbiased A/B of the two in due course.

I've seen the guts of both (well a Origin Bassrig, not the new one)  and they are very different in terms of the electrical complexity of what they are doing - so I'm not sure it's as simple as saying one pedal can do two sounds and another brand needs two pedals to do the samething.  

28 minutes ago, Chadu25 said:

I sent a new FX block proposal to Ivan from Darkglass proposing a synth fx block idea. It's basically the same blueprint of Entropia but synth engine where you can play around with LFO, Filters, Dirt, Sine waves to achieve classic synth tones. Just like how Entropia has different templates, same with Synthropia where you can achieve song ready synth tones like what you hear on Stevie's boogie on reggae woman, PYT, 24k Magic , moog related sounds and then tweak parameters to further improve your desired tone. The icon I made is just a quick render during my break at work. I just matched the same design elements in the Anagram's fx block icons. I really hope they have something synth related lined up in the future.

 

I wonder how much trouble you could cause by taking your professional looking image and sticking on the other bass forum and Facebook groups with "have you seen this - so looking forward to it" type comments ....

22 minutes ago, paulo m said:

After watching the Barefaced interview & explanitory audio for myself' this latest offering from origin  could well be more successful than their previous fender & ampeg recreations?

But the Price is going to be a stumbling block for many.

Nah- I think price point will be ok - they have sold  plenty of the other bass rigs - if you can afford it it won’t be a problem, and it’s cheaper than an amp and cab. 
 

10 hours ago, Quatschmacher said:

Already shipped, will be here tomorrow. 

I was without my phone for a few days and got back to my emails and saw their mailing list one and thought you would be very very happy !