Mr. Foxen

[quote name='Rich' post='901827' date='Jul 22 2010, 01:06 PM']It's guitar shaped, and basically a member of the guitar family, and is therefore a bass guitar. 'Bass' refers to its sonic range, like 'baritone' or 'tenor' or whatever. If an orchestral player asked what you played and you replied "bass", his logical answer would be "Bass what? Clarinet? Sax?". Or "GUITAR", like Leo did? [/quote] Fairly typical of a non-bassist to call it a guitar.

Playing with a pick so guitar. I think it is pretty much defined by its position in music than its construction. Lemmy plays bass guitar. No-one except bassists knows the name of anyone who plays bass.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='901629' date='Jul 22 2010, 09:18 AM']but the neo DEFINITELY 100% sounded different.[/quote] I think it is important to say 'neo speaker' as it isn't the 'neo' part that makes the difference, it is the construction of the speaker around it. As Bill says, flux is flux, but there are a whole bunch of other properties that are a whole bunch of other properties a speaker will have, and will have changed.

[quote name='machinehead' post='901507' date='Jul 22 2010, 12:40 AM']Yes, but you're clouding the issue. Can people tell the magnet material by listening to the sound of the cabinet, all other things being the same? If they can, I'll be amazed. I'm an electrical engineer of 3o+ years experience and I've learned to be cynical about anything that can't be proved by the science. Feelings rarely cut it in my experience. But again, I stand to be proved wrong - and I mean it. Show me how the magnet material can be heard differently from another magnet material. Frank[/quote] All things aren't the same though, so a neo speaker will sound different. Speakers with neo magnets have various other parameters that are different due to the designs having advanced to use the new technology. They can disperse heat more readily for example, as that is always a benefit and the small magnet lends itself to more effective heatinking, with corresponding less power compression. I'm not sure of the mechanics of it, but they also seem to lend themselves to greater xmax, guessing due to magnet field strength but its not really in my understanding, so less distortion at high power levels. It might not be the magnet type itself affecting the sound, but the magnet choice is affecting factors which affect the sound, all part of the speaker, giving a neo speaker a different sound. If you mean all things the same with the box they are mounted in, then at least one of them will be in the wrong box. That is probably another thing you'll hear wrong with neo magnets, they don't suit box designs that are being held over from ceramic drivers. Box is designed around the driver, just like the driver is designed around the magnet. Design the box right and you'll probably have more lows and less speaker breakup, plus the speaker breakup will probably sound different due to the construction changes, so again, it will sound different. You might be wrong to blame the neo bit, but that doesn't mean a difference isn't there.

[quote name='Lorne' post='901499' date='Jul 22 2010, 12:27 AM']Both my Mockingbirds have not been through Shockwave's hands,in fact,none of my current BCR's have been owned by him Ref the NJ Body,I might have a snakeskin Warlock up for sale late sept If my friend doesn't get his ass in order to fix the neck[/quote] You can say that now, but they go to Rob from you, so it's not like you are out of the equation. Just gotta remember who had the mock with the curling-up 100 piece neck, and find what became of the body.

[quote name='Lorne' post='901077' date='Jul 21 2010, 05:01 PM']Why,yes I do,wanna buy it? it's the trans Brown Mockingbird here[/quote] Sorted for mockingbirds. My TJ mock has the novelty of not being owned by Shockwave in addition to being a superb instrument. Am looking for an NJ BC rich body for cheap to go with the neck I have, the warlock body is so butchered getting it smooth will change its shape.

[quote name='machinehead' post='901465' date='Jul 21 2010, 11:33 PM']I can't imagine how anyone could hear the difference in sound due solely to the material used in a magnet of a speaker? I'd like to be educated if indeed it is possible though. Frank[/quote] The magnet change means other things could be improved (from an engineering perspective) in speaker construction, so the may well be a tone difference associated, down to other changes, but usually they will be beneficial although you have to adjust enclosures to match.

[quote name='joegarcia' post='901011' date='Jul 21 2010, 03:38 PM']You're not very funky! This looks awesome. Very interested indeed.. Would be great to have a pair of these to replace my pair of GS412's for small gigs. Reckon one could deal with my Sunn 1200s? Can't afford it right now but may well be worth having a clearout for.[/quote] [quote name='alexclaber' post='901023' date='Jul 21 2010, 03:58 PM']Sunn 1200s (nice head!) puts out ~800W into 4 ohms. Big Twin can handle 900W thermally all day long and excursion-wise 1200W peaks in the lows before compression/distortion sets in. So yes![/quote] Bear in mind this is a guideline and not a challenge. Plus this is a cab with a midrange, with attendant micing fun, that you have previously stated you dislike. I reckon the Dubster or Big One/sub and a Vintage are what you are after. Can DI the lows, mic up the Vintage.

Velcro dots. That way you can have it off or on at will.

And a totally round number of votes and consequently winning percentage. It's a fix! Posed by a model just for publicity. Dude doesn't even know how to hold a bass. Edit: I know this to not be true really.

Doesn't appear to be any soundclips. I can mostly hear Bolt Thrower. That isn't very funky.

Whoever wins, I lose, because I have to see Joe's face most days.

Isn't that a euphamism for 'stolen'?

Pics or GTFO.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='900794' date='Jul 21 2010, 10:43 AM']Where's Lorne?[/quote] Busy mentioning he has the bass Phil Lynott played in the 'Do anything you wanna do' video.

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='900842' date='Jul 21 2010, 11:43 AM']I'm sure I've heard before someone saying that all you need is a magnet on a stick. If you have a thin screwdriver with a magnetised tip, maybe that's worth a go? S.P.[/quote] If it is gripped tight enough to pull the end off the jack, this doesn't sound hopeful.

You might get impedance issues that make is sound wrong. Buffered pedal in between might help, I've recorded with my Sansamp into mic input.

Taking a bass amp apart isn't a huge issue. Just use the right size screwdrivers, and don't have it plugged it, and not have used it in the last few hours. Oh, and don't lick any of it inside.

Old BC Riches are lovely. Bit more dubious on new ones.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-T-B-Raxx-Bass-Preamp-excellent-condition-/170516606811?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item27b394ef5b"]Here.[/url] I'm waiting on delivery of one of these myself. Couple of valves, passive and active eq, so should be fairly flexible without being overcomplicated. Anyone else had a go with one? With all the lightweight power amps coming out, I reckon valve preamps are the way to go. Pair this up with an IPR and you are laughing.

[quote name='Beedster' post='898773' date='Jul 19 2010, 11:50 AM']The other option of course is getting a custom 1x10/2x6 built to sit on top of a standard 15?[/quote] This is very unlikely to work the same without some serious maths going into a crossover, can't cram the same signal into all the drivers and have it work right. The Barefaced stacks are probably going to be closest.

[quote name='algmusic' post='900123' date='Jul 20 2010, 03:04 PM']Ooow.. Do you mean the whole handling over the RMS.. That's when the cab can handle short burst of power but not continuous, right???[/quote] No. I mean excursion limited power handling rather than the RMS rating which is thermal. It depends on the cab as much as the speaker, as it is the amount of power needed to push the speaker physiclally far enough it breaks, and the cab controls its movement. RMS is mostly useful for PA subs running constant loads of compressed bass signal where a melting is a possibility, rather than the much more dynamic requirements of instrument amplification, where a signal peak at a wrong frequency is the killer, since there is lots of cooling time. So a short burst of enough power will break it, since the cone tearing loose of the surround or the coil squashing against the backplate isn't something that will be forgiven shortly after.

If you can do a CAD drawing, probably not much. Spoke to Dad, PMing details.

I cna get this done. got a pattern? Also, is just shielding.

[quote name='algmusic' post='899855' date='Jul 20 2010, 11:48 AM']I love this kind of bravery.. I just can't afford the risk of blowing my amp.. I've only done this once at rehearsal an played very quietly, but I always have the rule of getting a cab that can handle at least about 20% more than the amp, then you can drive the beast how you want... I'm sure you get a better sound.. well IMHP[/quote] Depends on what you mean by 'handle', and at what rating. Plenty of cabs won't handle 80% of their rated RMS power due to excursion limit at the frequency where cone excursion is at maximum. Exceeding the excursion limit is the bit that will break most bass guitar speakers, because you don't need to do it for a length of time, push the speaker past that limit and its gone.