The Dark Lord

People visit forums for different reasons. I don't think the compositions section is particularly interesting.

[quote name='greyparrot' timestamp='1372237783' post='2123119'] After 30 years playing and going through some of the 'best' basses out there i still don't believe you can beat the fender p or jazz bass. Iv had basses costing 4k and some costing £40 its not the bass its in us to make the music. Iv played basses that have pre amps as sensitive as my **** and some dead as door-nails... I (personally) think you cant beat a fender. Right now im playing a fender usa p bass deluxe v and a line 6 variaxe (great) ... I think the fender is the best bass i have played in all ways, and while i know its a very personal thing... they really are the work horse of the bass world, at least for a jobbing bass player as i am.... yeah its nice to see exotic wood but paying 2k because of it and lets face it many end up for sale i simply cant see it anymore... i think id prefer a nice table top rather than a bass to look at for exotic wood... yeah it changes the sound...but at the end of the day Fender got it right...After playing pro for many years and using and selling many basses. You can get most tones in the fingers, where and how we play, anything else can come from the tone and amp controls, you can 'will the sound' out of most basses, rather than trying endless pre amp options.... This is just my view of course and i can say i have played everything from top end spectors to old p bass copies... personally i always come back to the work horse of the bass world... Fender.. and lets face it a nice one is by no mean cheap ! but i personally think they got it right. It could well be because 30 years ago the first bass i ever had was a kay p bass copy, so i guess i grew up with the shape and fender basses were the (and still are) the main axe for most players back then. [/quote] Sir, you are the most righteous person on this forum. Well done. The "nay sayers" will be along in a minute, but they are whistling in the wind. Fender dominates the world of bass and will forever rule the un-Fenders. It is the way of the bass guitar.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1371730776' post='2117441'] Based on the handy stat at the bottom of the page, I can tell you that, in the last 15 minutes, 780 users have been online, of which over 3/4 weren't logged on or don't have an account. That suggests a LOT of traffic, and presumably not-insignificant hosting bills. [/quote] I'd need a closer estimate than "a lot" to make the point though.

[quote name='Jellyfish' timestamp='1371720141' post='2117240'] I also find it incredible that people don't seem to understand the sort of audience BassChat attracts on a daily basis in terms of 'viewership'. One of the biggest bass websites in Europe, if not the biggest ......... [/quote] There is an interesting point that has yet to be discussed here, relevant to "viewership" as you call it. I actually don't know the "viewership" the site attracts in terms of page impressions per day / week / month. Does anyone here actually know that? The owners will, of course, at least have the ability to know that - but I don't know if they consider it to be commerically sensitive or not. I suspect the bounce rate will be low and the pages per visit will be more that your average website.

[quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1371557754' post='2115427'] This site must cost a fair bit to run ........ [/quote] What makes you say that?

[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1371553398' post='2115323'] Actually it's very similar to [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/206276-fender-us-jazz-bass-4-string-2010-blackmapletort-l699/"]this one[/url] of grahamd's that has been hanging around the for sale area for weeks, but with the original white scratch plate and lots of case candy. If his 'ain't selling at that very reasonable price, mine is unlikely to either! Edit: Oh, and mine's a rosewood board [/quote] Hi Norris. Your bass looks great - it's just that I, for my own mad reasons, only play black basses and guitars ....... although, strangely, some of my keyboards are white and red etc. Staying "on-topic" though ......... I agree that your bass and his bass are [i]perfect[/i] tools for any kind of performer, and if they are to sell, then here ought to be a good place. I have bought and sold USA Precisions through here of late ...... and they fetch about £500 to £550. A scandalous price, but it you are buying and selling at roughly the same time, then it's okay. I guess Jazz basses are in the same price bracket. The going price for these things is severely depressed, so I suspect people are holding on to them rather than selling or trading. On top of the market depression, the fee thing has possibly come at the wrong time and has possibly had a detrimental effect on the marketplace section here. The site owners will be able to look at the site page statistics and see the traffic there. However, they may have earned increased revenue from it. That might be good for them, who knows. They own the site and they can do what they like. I, for one, have no problem with that. Good luck to them.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1371481068' post='2114364'] Perhaps a membership fee of say £1.00 per year would help BC survive? Just a thought, shoot me down in flames if you must......... [/quote] What would make you think that basschat's survival is in question?

Is it just me, or (sound recording quality aside) is this not awful? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gvj33gn144[/media]

[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1371469728' post='2114154'] Funnily enough, that's exactly what I'm NOT selling yet because of the lack of buyers with money ('99 US Jazz Standard) [/quote] Ok then, tell you what, strip it down to the bare wood, have it resprayed in gloss black and I'll give you £550 for it.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1371431139' post='2113910'] If you think a fee of £20 a year is too high for the sale of a cheap bass, just sell more stuff until it becomes reasonable. [/quote] I don't think the size of the fee is the issue. I think, from memory, that the prices are £7 for a single item, £20 for as much as you like in a year and free for anything less than £50. [i]Correct me if I'm wrong there anyone.[/i] Those are very reasonable fees. It's the fact that there is [i]any [/i] charge at all. Any resource on the Internet which charges a fee puts an obstacle in the way of users ....... and therefore reduces the traffic. It is illogical that such a small obstacle would cause a large drop off in traffic - but this is the Internet we are talking about. Users expect "free" and leave in their droves when they see [i]any [/i]fee of any kind. It doesn't make sense, but it is the way of the Internet.

I think it is inevitable that, when a totally free resource becomes one that you have to pay for, then a decline will occur. I too think it is a reasonable fee, but still, the move from free to not free, is bound to have an impact. I've been looking for a USA Jazz of late, but there seem less of them around. It's the way of the Internet.

Right. I'm deffo in. I'm all for this tech innovation stuff. Well done. I think you all look nuts - but have always wondered what you would sound like. Cool as!

Yeah I know. More than 4 strings. What are they thinking of?

Does anyone on here know if there is a keyboard equivalent of basschat? Has to be a UK based. I also play keys and I'm interesting in filling some spare space in the Dungeons of Ultimate Darkness with some new gear.

I have just pulled the trigger on an ex demo unit comprising: L1 Model II, B1 Bass Module and T1 ToneMatch. A snip at £2,200. I'm going to see if I can use use it for vocals only in a three piece pub rock band (indie and the like). Won't get rid of the existing PA until I am happy that it can be used for that. I'm fairly certain it will though. I was offered at 10 day trial unit from the guys at Bose, but decided to just purchase one anyway. I have to say that their pre-sales customer service is prompt, polite and helpful.

I don't subscribe to that point of view really. If you get a good bass, amp, speaker cab and the right pedals - you can make a great tone right there. Then, you can play very simple songs which don't require too much twiddling and you will have a great bass tone. Simples. You don't have to be a great bass player to do that - in my opinion that is. Not sure I'd be that interested in watching someone do that for a whole gig though. For that, they would need to show a bit of variety and flair and maybe a style of their own. But I think someone's bass sound is shaped more by their equipment than their playing technique.

This is good. Well done. As you say, it's quite simple, but it gets your point across. Good stuff.

It was the fresh and spontaneous musical movement which saved rock and roll from itself. It only existed from 1976 to 1979 though. There is no more real punk music. However, rock and roll, like all things that are nearly 70 years old, is dying and will soon be extinct.

I went down there this morning. They have the three new models there (Compact, Model 1S and Model II) with all of the accessories. I had a listen, I really need to see one of these being used as a PA for a three piece pub rock band to be sure. It fits my requirements perfectly. A PA only for vocals, small footprint (especially in transit) and technical tour de force. I often buy products without hearing them first not usually at £2,600. I'm going to see if I can actually hear one somewhere. I see that Bose in the US do trial units - but I don't think they do that here.

[quote name='The Saint' timestamp='1370810909' post='2105936'] Hi Dark Lord I want to get a Bose L1 for an acoustic project, but haven't found a dealer that has one. Where are you going for a demo? I'm in the Hampshire area for a few weeks.. Cheers Graham [/quote] Nevada Music.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1370809223' post='2105908'] Bose is one of those marketing over design deals. Go elsewhere. [/quote] Well, I have a Bose system in my Audi TT and it is superb. Utterly superb. I also have a SoundDock 2 which has remarkable sound quality for such a small item. I'm looking for a system with a small footprint. I'll go and have a look I think.

I'm thinking of replacing our PA for our three-piece band (guitar, bass and drums) with a Bose L1 Model 2 with a B1 bass module with a T1 ToneMatch module. From what I can assess, it would be fine in a band situation for up to 200 people ..... which is the most we ever do. I'm checking one out at a music store in Portsmouth tomorrow.

Should have bought a Fender.

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