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[quote name='pip' post='76675' date='Oct 19 2007, 07:18 PM']Cheers Mike!

I'm still learning the technique on the side, but I'm thinking of getting a ramp fitted to my warwick so I can practice the technqiue alot better, I seem to favour the bridge pup most of the time.

Phil[/quote]

Hey Phil - I love my ramp - I still dig playing basses without one but they really do help - anyway I've finally started using this stuff in a live context and it's working well - I just use it sparingly! It's a nice buzz when it's working in a groove.

Cheers

Mike

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[quote name='urb' post='76802' date='Oct 19 2007, 11:43 PM']anyway I've finally started using this stuff in a live context and it's working well - I just use it sparingly!

Cheers

Mike[/quote]

Same here...but after about 10 years of two fingers it is a hard habit to break.

Nice video btw.

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[quote name='Mikey D' post='77513' date='Oct 21 2007, 10:14 PM']Same here...but after about 10 years of two fingers it is a hard habit to break.

Nice video btw.[/quote]


Thanks Mikey - yes it is a hard habit to adapt from - but I still do 95% of all my playing with 2 fingers and that is hard enough to get smooth and consistant and grooving - however it's nice to expand your technique a bit after a few years - I've been playing for 23 years and I'm still working on stuff eveyday just to be consistent.

One NEW thing I did this weekend was start checking out the Southern Indian rhythm system of Konnakol - performed with the voice. I got a video with John McLaughlin demo-ing it - see [url="http://www.konnakol.org/"]http://www.konnakol.org/[/url] for more. It's absolutely brilliant - so simple yet can create amazing complex sub-divisions of beats. All without drums.

Link to the McLaughlin video:
[url="http://www.abstractlogix.com/features_view.php?idno=22"]http://www.abstractlogix.com/features_view.php?idno=22[/url]

Anyway I started playing those rhythms with 4 fingers and got in creating accents on the 1 of groups of 2, 3 and 4 - and did this with the metronome - and within an hour or so I was coming up with new stuff. So I'm going to keep at this - trying to keep it musical and very much in time and use it to sub-divide grooves, melodic ideas and chords into different time feels - the long and the short of that being that overall my timing started to improve immediately...

Damn there's so much to learn.

Thanks for the feed(backing)

Mike

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Nice vid and fine incidental music.


Re ramps I have just finished making a ramp for my for my steamer pro-M5 and I have a bit of nice burl wood (probably walnut) left over, you are welcome to a bit of it if you like (as a thanks for great tunes you have posted on the forum over the years). Let me have the dimensions you are after and I will check that what i have is big enough.

If it is to go between the two pickups on your thumb it might well be possible to have it fit snug against the edges of the pups and not need any other fixing especially give the angle of the bridge pup. I have managed to get mine to fit snug between the end of the fingerboard and the pup so no sticky tape or such is required.

Cheers
Pete

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[quote name='urb' post='77563' date='Oct 21 2007, 11:16 PM']Thanks Mikey - yes it is a hard habit to adapt from - but I still do 95% of all my playing with 2 fingers and that is hard enough to get smooth and consistant and grooving - however it's nice to expand your technique a bit after a few years - I've been playing for 23 years and I'm still working on stuff eveyday just to be consistent.

One NEW thing I did this weekend was start checking out the Southern Indian rhythm system of Konnakol - performed with the voice. I got a video with John McLaughlin demo-ing it - see [url="http://www.konnakol.org/"]http://www.konnakol.org/[/url] for more. It's absolutely brilliant - so simple yet can create amazing complex sub-divisions of beats. All without drums.

Link to the McLaughlin video:
[url="http://www.abstractlogix.com/features_view.php?idno=22"]http://www.abstractlogix.com/features_view.php?idno=22[/url]

Anyway I started playing those rhythms with 4 fingers and got in creating accents on the 1 of groups of 2, 3 and 4 - and did this with the metronome - and within an hour or so I was coming up with new stuff. So I'm going to keep at this - trying to keep it musical and very much in time and use it to sub-divide grooves, melodic ideas and chords into different time feels - the long and the short of that being that overall my timing started to improve immediately...

Damn there's so much to learn.

Thanks for the feed(backing)

Mike[/quote]

The technique in the video makes me think of victor wooten but instead of a more thru-string slapping technique with the thumb you seem to utilise more of a stroke. You've naield the techinque though btw.

Konnakol is something i've been entranced by very recently as I've always found it hard to coutn say a bar of 4 while letting my hands move independantly in groups of anything but 4 (3,5,7 etc). I'd highly advise you go to [url="http://www.bassplayer.tv"]http://www.bassplayer.tv[/url] then click on artist features and watch kai eckhardt's videos where he demonstrates his use of konnakol. Really inspiring and overwellming to me anyway. Rather similar technique to yours actually. Thanx for the ideos.

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[quote name='fusionbassist1' post='80163' date='Oct 27 2007, 04:33 PM']The technique in the video makes me think of victor wooten but instead of a more thru-string slapping technique with the thumb you seem to utilise more of a stroke. You've naield the techinque though btw.

Konnakol is something i've been entranced by very recently as I've always found it hard to coutn say a bar of 4 while letting my hands move independantly in groups of anything but 4 (3,5,7 etc). I'd highly advise you go to [url="http://www.bassplayer.tv"]http://www.bassplayer.tv[/url] then click on artist features and watch kai eckhardt's videos where he demonstrates his use of konnakol. Really inspiring and overwellming to me anyway. Rather similar technique to yours actually. Thanx for the ideos.[/quote]

Thanks for the tip - I'm a huge fan of Kai's playing, he's an awesome musician and a great, great teacher - so I'll certainly check it out. Likewise I'd recommend you check his band Garajmahal - they are truly slamming and he plays like a groove monster with those guys - I think he's actually my favourite slap bassist around today - so groovy and really flowing. Anyway glad you dug the video and ideas - thanks for the tips in return.

Cheers

Mike

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Sorry to be a bore but here's a little groove with this technique - I've been working on getting it even and steady at slow tempos and being able to switch from steady 8ths to fast 16ths to 32nds etc - it's becoming much more instinctive now as well - so I don't have to think about it as much - which is nice :)

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[quote name='Sibob' post='85497' date='Nov 8 2007, 03:47 PM']I like the big *Sigh* at about 0.35 in the top/first video lol

Cheers anyway, been practicing this for a while now

Si[/quote]

Cheers Bob - glad it's been useful - I'm not depressed honestly!

*calls bass doctor...*

:)

M

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[quote name='Higgie' post='87684' date='Nov 13 2007, 12:51 AM']Is it just me or is the second vid down?

The first one was great! Im gonna have to learn how to do that, heh.[/quote]

Hi Higgie - the second vid is defo still working - but the start looks a bit crap thanks to Youtube flash video compression - not the way I intended it.

Let me know if u can see it ok

M

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Is this similar to the rasgueado guitar technique ??

It's very cool for getting maximum notes out of minimal effort and I'm all for that !! Very tricky technique and very well presented. Many congrats !!

Now I have to go practice.... :)

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