silverfoxnik Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Hi Folks I'm upgrading my rig so need to move on some of my equipment that has served me very well over the last year or so, starting with this [b]Eden Nemesis NA650[/b] head, which I'm asking [b]£300 + p&p[/b] for. I paid about £320 for the head last year and £20 for the SKB case IIRC, so I think the price I'm asking is reasonable given the current economic climate. I bought it last year here on Basschat and it's been [b]brilliant[/b] for the kind of gigs I do, which are pubs, clubs, weddings etc.. So much so, that I now intend to upgrade my rig to an Eden Metro. The [b]NA 650[/b] is very punchy and warm sounding, which might sound like a contradiction but it's not, and the [b]tonal flexibilit[/b]y is fantastic, as it is with all Eden amps. There's 3-band e.q, semi-parametric eq, a very good D.I, tube emulation circuit, compressor, fx loops, mute switch etc, etc.. You name it; it has it and does it!! Here's some photos, including a stock photo which shows the front & rear panels very clearly.. [attachment=28937:yhst_784...84137338.jpg] [attachment=28938:Jul_09_071.jpg] [attachment=28939:Jul_09_061.jpg] And it's nice and loud: 275 Watts @ 8 Ohms, 440 Watts @ 4 Ohms, 650 Watts @ 2 Ohms.. One of the great features of this amp IMO is that it will run down to 2 ohms, which means you don't always have to buy 8 ohm cabs!! Anyway, here's the blurb and spec: "The flagship of the Nemesis line. The NA650 is 2 spaces high and 17" wide by 11" deep. It features a unique preamp design and an all FET output stage with 650W RMS at 2 ohms. This unit has Enhance, Edge, and Gain boost controls; selectable DI pre/post, front-panel DI level control, as well as a smooth, solid FET sound with plenty of power to drive multiple speaker cabinets. Nemesis NA650 Bass Head Specifications: * Power: 650W RMS@ 2 ohms * Distortion: <.1% * Frequency Response: 10Hz - 18kHz * Headroom: 3dB * Dimensions: 17"W x 3-1/2"H x 11"D * Weight: 28 lbs. Nemesis NA650 Bass Head Features: * 650W RMS @ 2 ohms * Unique preamp design * FET output stage * Semi-parametric EQ with Enhance, Gain Boost, and Edge controls * Selectable pre/post DI with front-panel level control * Pre-EQ effects loop" [attachment=28940:Jul_09_074.jpg] [attachment=28941:Jul_09_077.jpg] [attachment=28942:Jul_09_075.jpg] There's some interesting user reviews and comments here: [url="http://www.eden-electronics.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12260"]http://www.eden-electronics.com/forum/topi...?TOPIC_ID=12260[/url] And it might be worth reading this recent Basschat thread about the NA650 [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=52284"]HERE[/url] which covers quite a bit of detail about these amps, including the [b]low-level hum[/b] that they produce which is an inherent design fault apparently. When I got mine, I had it [b]thoroughly serviced [/b]and checked over to see what was causing the hum, but my amp tech couldn't eliminate it. Having said all that, when you're using the amp in anger, you can't hear the hum at all! There's no reviews that I can find on Harmony Central for this amp but have a look at bassist Bill Clement here on YouTube, who uses the NA650 - the guy is amazing! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX_PFH--rXo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX_PFH--rXo[/url] My reason for selling is simply to upgrade, hopefully to an all Eden rig as I said above, but otherwise, I'd be very happy to continue using this amp with my SWR cabs because it sounds bloody good! It's in pretty good condition and [b]works perfectly[/b], though the SKB case is a little tatty but perfectly functional! When I bought it originally, I had it couriered via APC which cost me [b]£15[/b] at the time and I would be happy to ship this in a similar fashion for anyone who is interested but not within easy reach of here..here being [b]Littlehampton[/b] in [b]West Sussex[/b] by the way. For anyone else who's interested and nearby, then you'd be [b]very welcome[/b] to come here, have a cuppa and a chat and [b]listen to it in action[/b]! Any questions, feel free to PM me or ask away here.. Thanks for looking. Nik [attachment=28943:Jul_09_066.jpg] [attachment=28944:Jul_09_062.jpg] Edited July 27, 2009 by silverfoxnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Bargainous! And Nik is an absolute gent too. I've always hankered after one of these ever since owning an NA320 for a short while and stupidly selling it before I prperly got to grips with it. Hmmm. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 [quote name='Merton' post='541200' date='Jul 15 2009, 12:38 PM']Bargainous! And Nik is an absolute gent too. I've always hankered after one of these ever since owning an NA320 for a short while and stupidly selling it before I prperly got to grips with it. Hmmm. Stop it.[/quote] Thanks Mert! Much as you are one of BC's finest and I want to sell this amp asap, I think the key words in your post were 'stop it'! Now, repeat after me: "I am very happy with my existing rig", "I am very happy with my existing rig", "I am very happy with my existing rig" etc, etc.. Nik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 [quote name='silverfoxnik' post='541235' date='Jul 15 2009, 12:56 PM']Now, repeat after me: "I am very happy with my existing rig", "I am very happy with my existing rig", "I am very happy with my existing rig" etc, etc.. Nik[/quote] But the Nemesis ahs a big blue light on the front! Ahem. Sorry. I do love my LH500 so I shall stop being a plum now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhk Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I heard the nemesis head running into one of my eden cabs and it sounded pretty darn good.Nik is a joy to deal with, so all you potential buyers can purchase with confidence.Prices are ultra reasonable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 [quote name='Merton' post='541742' date='Jul 15 2009, 10:30 PM']Ahem. Sorry. I do love my LH500 so I shall stop being a plum now.[/quote] [quote name='jhk' post='541749' date='Jul 15 2009, 10:34 PM']I heard the nemesis head running into one of my eden cabs and it sounded pretty darn good.Nik is a joy to deal with, so all you potential buyers can purchase with confidence.Prices are ultra reasonable!!![/quote] Cheers Jon! Appreciate the support.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 B-U-M-P! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) 'Friday morning, wondering if I've got swine flu and it's raining a lot', kind of B-U-M-P! Edited July 17, 2009 by silverfoxnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 'Saturday morning B-U-M-P! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Now on Ebay: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150360091980"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=150360091980[/url] I've listed it at a slightly higher BIN price and without the 2U case, but this offer of £300 inc the SKB case still stands to any Basschatters interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmeg Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Ive got one of these. 650w for £300! Its a bit of quality kit. Well worth 50p per watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biskitbass Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 PM'd ya silverfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 [quote name='biskitbass' post='544755' date='Jul 19 2009, 04:34 PM']PM'd ya silverfox[/quote] And replied!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 An 'is it Monday already' BUMP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I wonder how this would sound with the Vintage..... ...stop it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Very nice I would imagine... But best not go down that road, Mert.. T'will all end in tears I say!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 how would it sound in a metal band? i'm looking for something fairly punchy/growly, or is it sort of neutral sounding like a markbass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 [quote name='budget bassist' post='545945' date='Jul 21 2009, 02:14 AM']how would it sound in a metal band? i'm looking for something fairly punchy/growly, or is it sort of neutral sounding like a markbass?[/quote] That's a good question! Being a sad old git, I'm not in a metal band but we do Jump by Van Halen, a Killers track and a Hendrix track and the amp always sounds very punchy - though it depends on the type of bass you use as well.. But this amp has good definition and flexibility with mid frequencies, and you can dial in some valve emulation as well.. so should be fine.. Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 BUMP! Last couple of days before the auction ends on Evil Bay. Though would much rather see it go to a fellow BC member if possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedontcarebear Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Does this sound like a proper Eden head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 [quote name='thedontcarebear' post='548787' date='Jul 23 2009, 12:13 PM']Does this sound like a proper Eden head?[/quote] That's a good question and a difficult one to answer.. The Nemesis e.q architecture (to borrow their very highbrow phrase) is very similar to all Eden heads, though there are 2 distinct differences IMO: 1) the NA650 is a solid state amp so it uses a solid state bit of trickery to emulate the valve pre-amp design / sound that lots of the other World Touring series Eden heads have. It does it well - a bit like Gallien Krueger's 'boost and G.I.V.E. technology - but it is definitely not a 'valve' sound. 2) the semi-parametric e.q. on the NA650 is good but nowhere near as flexible as the World Touring series Eden heads Hope that helps to answer your question in part but come back to me if not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Having owned a WT series Eden, and now an RS700 Nemesis... I would describe the 'flat' (no eq) sound to be quite similar, i.e clean, clear and slightly scooped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Mr.T' post='548991' date='Jul 23 2009, 03:01 PM']Having owned a WT series Eden, and now an RS700 Nemesis... I would describe the 'flat' (no eq) sound to be quite similar, i.e clean, clear and slightly scooped.[/quote] Thanks; that's a real help... good to have a direct comparison made etc, etc.. Edited July 23, 2009 by silverfoxnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 ****SOLD**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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