bubinga5 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Right im a bass player who likes a bass player who is a slave to the music, ala Marcus Miller, Meshell....But VW just blows me away with his rythmic sense and timing..Is there anyone who can touch this guy with his monster technique...Its just incredible.. Here he is with Bela Fleck... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxT85-CSFU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxT85-CSFU[/url] If he left all the flash behind, you know he would play a serious groove though... This is killer..just amazing!!!! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hyEYi0O-M&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hyEYi0O-M...feature=related[/url] or this..his playing at 3.28 onwards is supreme... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlzXgUnoGY&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlzXgUnoGY...feature=related[/url] Edited June 25, 2009 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh3184 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 love that last one- wish I coud do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I have a live DVD of the Flecktones.. at one bit, the banjo the bass and a guest tabla player are trading licks. Mindblowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFW Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I can play like Victa no probs. All I need is a drummer who can play like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepurpleblob Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I saw BF and the FTs live a year or so ago. Left halfway through - dull and boring beyond belief IMO. You don't need to convince me that they are great musicians but I don't find them remotely musical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 [quote name='bubinga5' post='524272' date='Jun 25 2009, 11:24 PM']Here he is with Bela Fleck... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxT85-CSFU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxT85-CSFU[/url][/quote] Best bit is at 1:07 where he completely loses it, lets his hands drop for a quick shake of the head ... and just picks up again like nothing happened. There's a guy comes to my local jam, name of Jovan, who is like a pub-level VW. He's technically far in advance of any other bass player I've ever heard in any pub, and his chops are truly awesome (as his his brisket). Trouble is, he never plays what the song needs. Why play one note when you can fit in 17? Is the guitarist soloing? OK, I'll play a bass solo underneath him in competition. Just like with VW, I'd love to have even a quarter of his ability - but I'd never use it like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='524708' date='Jun 26 2009, 11:01 AM']Best bit is at 1:07 where he completely loses it, lets his hands drop for a quick shake of the head ... and just picks up again like nothing happened. There's a guy comes to my local jam, name of Jovan, who is like a pub-level VW. He's technically far in advance of any other bass player I've ever heard in any pub, and his chops are truly awesome (as his his brisket). Trouble is, he never plays what the song needs. Why play one note when you can fit in 17? Is the guitarist soloing? OK, I'll play a bass solo underneath him in competition. Just like with VW, I'd love to have even a quarter of his ability - but I'd never use it like that![/quote] Bassists and drummers that overplay can ruin a song entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) I dont think hes over playing in the last two vids.?.Just awsome groove! VW seems to have a bad rep when it comes to flashy playing, but i guess thats what seels the tickets to his shows...I very much doubt Victor would over play, in the context of a song..At the end of the day he is a solo artist who plays bass!! Edited June 26, 2009 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 [quote name='bubinga5' post='524797' date='Jun 26 2009, 12:55 PM']I dont think hes over playing in the last two vids.?.Just awsome groove! VW seems to have a bad rep when it comes to flashy playing, but i guess thats what seels the tickets to his shows...I very much doubt Victor would over play, in the context of a song..At the end of the day he is a solo artist who plays bass!![/quote] I totally agree. VW is the finest. Everything he plays with The Flecktones is supportive. It's bassists and drummers overplaying in general that I find annoying. I could start a whole thread about drummers that overplay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB26354 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 He's been playing since he was a toddler and looks more natural playing the bass than anyone I've ever seen. Some of the older Flecktones stuff is quite nice and when he plays groove he's really got it, but I've never really liked his way of playing, or his sound and reliance on slap/pop/tap without making it particularly musical. Hate to say it being a bass player but there are very, very few albums out there by bass players that I can listen to. It's funny that he goes on about saying something with your instrument when I can't work out what [i]he's[/i] trying to say. With the YT videos posted it's all a little busy, but then the last two don't really have a song so any monster player is naturally going to overplay - VW, Steve Smith and Carter Beauford are all well capable of playing what the song needs. So I don't really care for his playing but you can't deny the talent and the technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 [quote name='Pete Academy' post='524752' date='Jun 26 2009, 12:00 PM']Bassists and drummers that overplay can ruin a song entirely.[/quote] +1 Ok so at home or in my spare time I play some Stu Hamm, Billy Sheehan, Victor Wooten peices / chops etc...but if you can do that it don't mean you HAVE to put it in your own band. I know many skilled muso's, even guitarists. My friend can also shred like mad...but NONE of our songs have even ONE guitar solo AT ALL! I love skilled players yeah, but I love music more. After a while...Wooten started to bore me and well...I'm not so interested anymore sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamapirate Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 TBH, can you REALLY overplay a song if there's only drums and bass? And is it me, or does he look very wooden in the last link on the first post? 4:32 and 4:45. I mean, his right shoulder just looks as though it's rigid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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