MB58R 122 with MB58R 102

[BassAdder60]

Hi I have the MarkBass MB58R 122 8ohm cab rated 800w and also MB58R 102 cab rated 8 ohms 400w

 

is this stack unlikely to work or sound odd ? I’m aware of power spread not being equal but is it a mistake using a 12” cab and a 10” cab together and why ?

 

Better is two of the same I know but I own both and tempted to try at rehearsals if folk think it won’t sound awful!! 
 

The 122 cab on its own is awesome so this is just getting a cab nearer my ears more than anything 

[fretmeister]

I don't like mixing cone types - not even different models of just 10s or just 12s etc.

I always find that the perfect EQ for one cab / speaker is not the same as for the other so there's always a compromise that cannot be dialled out - at least not without cross overs or a completely different amp feeding each cab.

 

If it was me, I'd pick the cab I liked best and just get another of the same. No compromises then and also no option paralysis in choosing which one to take on a smaller gig when only 1 is needed.

 

It's not going to sound awful by any stretch of the imagination, but it might not sound exactly as you want. If you are relaxed about that - then no problem.

 

Give it a try and see what happens - nothing will go wrong and your band mates won't even notice as long as they aren't asked to help you carry!  

[BassAdder60]

They both sound great and although it’s common for 10’s to be used with 15’s in the old school way and I currently own both I guess it’s a try it and see if only to hear better as it raises the sound closer to my ears.

 

The 122 on its own is awesome and all I really need and I have two of the MB58R 102 cabs ( both for sale on here ) it was a thought that maybe I would keep one of the 102 cabs purely as a bigger rig 

 

I can try it out and see if I like the result. If they both sell then that’s fine too and I will gig the 122 on its own as it’s perfectly acceptable 

Edited 6 hours ago by BassAdder60

[Sandypjb]

I've been using a Markbass LMII 2 x 10 combo with an 8 Ohm Markbass 2 x 12 Ninja Cab with tweeter for ages in pubs - sounds great to my ears. It's pretty much what you're proposing so I wouldn't have any concerns IMHO.

[ossyrocks]

I briefly ran a Mark Bass 102P with a 151P, and I didn't like it. A pair of 102Ps was a lot better. 

 

I've always run matching cabs ever since.

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

3 hours ago, Sandypjb said:

I've been using a Markbass LMII 2 x 10 combo with an 8 Ohm Markbass 2 x 12 Ninja Cab with tweeter for ages in pubs - sounds great to my ears. 

Pretty much any two cabs together will sound better than either alone. The only way to know if Cab A plus Cab B is better than 2xCab A or 2xCab B is to try all three combinations side by side. That's not an option for most. 

[fretmeister]

2 hours ago, ossyrocks said:

I briefly ran a Mark Bass 102P with a 151P, and I didn't like it. A pair of 102Ps was a lot better. 

 

I've always run matching cabs ever since.

 

I had the same rig for a while. I really liked both cabs alone but never together. My 102P was a combo so I kept that bit and sold the 15.

 

[fretmeister]

4 hours ago, BassAdder60 said:

They both sound great and although it’s common for 10’s to be used with 15’s in the old school way and I currently own both I guess it’s a try it and see if only to hear better as it raises the sound closer to my ears.

 

The 122 on its own is awesome and all I really need and I have two of the MB58R 102 cabs ( both for sale on here ) it was a thought that maybe I would keep one of the 102 cabs purely as a bigger rig 

 

I can try it out and see if I like the result. If they both sell then that’s fine too and I will gig the 122 on its own as it’s perfectly acceptable 

 

 

ah, I just saw you are selling.

 

I already have one and love it. The temptation for another is very high but I'm not gigging at all at the moment so all it would do is annoy my lovely wife.

 

I haven't quite reached the stage of joining a band just to justify buying more gear!  

[stevie]

I've carried out some testing of cabs loaded with different drivers. The results showed that two cabinets with a similar frequency response will usually work as a stack. They don't have to be fitted with same-size drivers; they just need to be close tonally.

[BassAdder60]

Just tried them together but only at home volume 

 

one 122 cab nice tone 

adding 102 cab volume increases ( as expected ) and more bass apparent 

 

Not sure if more bass is due to the increase in volume ? 
 

Need to crank them loud at rehearsal and see if I like the combination for those bigger gigs where I want a bit more “ cab” 

 

Doesn’t sound wrong or bad just different 

 

I have plenty of amp power with my TE1200 so I don’t need both cabs for the watts as at 8homs it’s rated around 700w so that’s ok I feel with my 122 800w cab. 

[BassAdder60]

53 minutes ago, stevie said:

I've carried out some testing of cabs loaded with different drivers. The results showed that two cabinets with a similar frequency response will usually work as a stack. They don't have to be fitted with same-size drivers; they just need to be close tonally.

The biggest difference is cabinet size between the 122 and the 102 

The 122 is about a third larger in volume and on its own feels more bassier whereas the 102 is definitely a mid forward sounding cab yet has plenty of low end.

I think the freq spec from MarkBass states the cabs to be very close in rating except the 102 is  a 400w cab and the 122 is 800w 

As a pick player the less mids in my sound is preferred and more full low end which the 122 definitely provides on its own. 
The 102 cab is a great cab fingerstyle but a little too mid focused as a pick player until you run a pair of 102 cabs together ( which I did ) 

Edited 1 hour ago by BassAdder60

[Downunderwonder]

43 minutes ago, BassAdder60 said:

have plenty of amp power with my TE1200 so I don’t need both cabs for the watts as at 8homs it’s rated around 700w so

You should be very careful giving your new cab what for. It is not a case of watts match = safe.