LukeFRC Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Posted without seeing the reveal Set 1: Number 1 - meh, brittle Number 2 - Rounder, middy, fatter I like this Number 3- sounds scooped, hyped bottom Number 4- sounds the widest and biggest Set 2: Number 1 - clean Number 2 - richer than No1 Number 3- still sounds scooped Number 4- warm and nice Set 3: Number 1 - sounds ok, nice bottom here Number 2 -mids give as bit of colour Number 3- still scooped Number 4- yeah good. Set 4: Number 1 - sounds ok Number 2 -sounds better Number 3- I don't like the tone Number 4- still good So from that... I'd say I like Number 4 best of them, then Number 2, then Number 1 and Number 3 Purely subjective obviously - I would enjoy owning 4 or 2. Can't wait to see what they are!! 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Interesting! Without giving anything away. No.3 which I disliked I kinda guessed right what that would be. It just sounded like there's a mid scooped to it to my ears. I personally would not want this one. No. 1 - When it started and when from 1st to 2nd on the P bass my first thought was "sound like 1 has higher input impedance than 2" which I think it does - I enjoyed it on the Sandberg, and less so on the P. This was ok. Number 2: Big sounding, colourful mids. This is a nice sounding preamp/DI. But I like this style of thing. I'ld use one. Number 4: was not expecting to like this one. It's clean, with 1 seemed to have the widest freq range- has that balanced warm unhyped sound that is good unless you're going to go for a colour. Enjoyed it on the P bass, less so on the jazz - which is possibly the higher freq of the rounds. (for reference, my dream sound is the old Warwick hellebore preamp, and the last 2-3 years the v2 Colourbox has been at the end of my pedalboard, so I like things with transformers in!) Quote
Kev Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 40 minutes ago, knicknack said: I know there's some eager to hear, so here's a quick late night comparison. 4 different clips, recorded through 4 DIs (In no particular order, Mantle, Noble, Luce, Caveman)... First two are P with flats, 3 & 4 are Sandberg TT4 with rounds. I'll put the order below under a spoiler warning for those who wish to let their ears do the work. Interested to hear your pre-spoiled thoughts! Tried to keep things as consistent and simple as possible. Something bigger and more in-depth coming soon! Recorded straight into a UA Apollo, gain level shown. Reveal hidden contents A. Noble Preamp (19db, slight bass and treble boost) B. Walrus Audio Mantle (12db, Bass 8, Treble 7, gain centre) C. Caveman BP1 Compact (10db, Gain 11 o'clock, level 10 o'clock) D. Jad Freer Luce (28db) I definitely have thoughts... mainly that i'd be pretty much happy with any of these if it was all I had. I set each one to taste rather than trying to really match them up. The gain on the Mantle has a big effect on the voicing, much to learn there. Important to remember the Luce is NOT a preamp, just a DI, although it certainly has colour. Nice! Haven't checked for spoilers but the 4th is comfortably my favourite, really nice with the flats and rounds, a real rubbery tone. Least favourite is 3, seems a bit odd and unbalanced in the mids and woolly by comparison. 1 & 2 are very nice, 1 probably edges it, but 4 is a bit special. 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Kev said: Nice! Haven't checked for spoilers but the 4th is comfortably my favourite, really nice with the flats and rounds, a real rubbery tone. Least favourite is 3, seems a bit odd and unbalanced in the mids and woolly by comparison. 1 & 2 are very nice, 1 probably edges it, but 4 is a bit special. snap! Quote
markorbit Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Pre-spoiler I prefer the order of 2,1,4,3. On the first demo I didn't gel with 3 at all. Now I will have a look what they are. Quote
thumbo Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, knicknack said: I know there's some eager to hear, so here's a quick late night comparison. 4 different clips, recorded through 4 DIs (In no particular order, Mantle, Noble, Luce, Caveman)... First two are P with flats, 3 & 4 are Sandberg TT4 with rounds. I'll put the order below under a spoiler warning for those who wish to let their ears do the work. Interested to hear your pre-spoiled thoughts! Tried to keep things as consistent and simple as possible. Something bigger and more in-depth coming soon! Recorded straight into a UA Apollo, gain level shown. Reveal hidden contents A. Noble Preamp (19db, slight bass and treble boost) B. Walrus Audio Mantle (12db, Bass 8, Treble 7, gain centre) C. Caveman BP1 Compact (10db, Gain 11 o'clock, level 10 o'clock) D. Jad Freer Luce (28db) I definitely have thoughts... mainly that i'd be pretty much happy with any of these if it was all I had. I set each one to taste rather than trying to really match them up. The gain on the Mantle has a big effect on the voicing, much to learn there. Important to remember the Luce is NOT a preamp, just a DI, although it certainly has colour. Thank you for doing this, very insightful with the blind taste test! For the P with flats it was very close for me between the Noble and Luce, I think they sound remarkably similar in the first round through my Audio Technica headphones. Both have a well-rounded sound that appeals. In round 3, the Mantle stood out to me for little more with that sparkle in the highs. So overall, not a clear cut one for me at all, they all sound nice and ultimately I feel like I'm splitting hairs. However, I am very impressed by the Luce. I will probably pull the trigger on one of these at some point because I can imagine it being an absolute gem when paired with other preamps that are taking a tone-shaping role. Intrigued to hear what it would be like adding some warmth to the harshness of my Rusty Box, or some valve goodness after a DCX Bass. Edited 9 hours ago by thumbo spelling Quote
knicknack Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) @thumbo I've recorded some Luce X DCX clips... will put them up in the next few days. I think that's going to be a popular combo! Edited 8 hours ago by knicknack 1 Quote
Chadu25 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 hours ago, LukeFRC said: Posted without seeing the reveal Set 1: Number 1 - meh, brittle Number 2 - Rounder, middy, fatter I like this Number 3- sounds scooped, hyped bottom Number 4- sounds the widest and biggest Set 2: Number 1 - clean Number 2 - richer than No1 Number 3- still sounds scooped Number 4- warm and nice Set 3: Number 1 - sounds ok, nice bottom here Number 2 -mids give as bit of colour Number 3- still scooped Number 4- yeah good. Set 4: Number 1 - sounds ok Number 2 -sounds better Number 3- I don't like the tone Number 4- still good So from that... I'd say I like Number 4 best of them, then Number 2, then Number 1 and Number 3 Purely subjective obviously - I would enjoy owning 4 or 2. Can't wait to see what they are!! I liked number 4 the most too! I've checked in the reveal what it is, and it's something I've been GASsing lately which I'm glad I did. Can't commit to getting one at the moment though but would defo want to try it maybe later this year. Will see! Quote
Chadu25 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 39 minutes ago, knicknack said: @thumbo I've recorded some Luce X DCX clips... will put them up in the next few days. I think that's going to be a popular combo! If I were to build another compact/nano board, I'd get a DCX and Luce too! Quote
thumbo Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, knicknack said: @thumbo I've recorded some Luce X DCX clips... will put them up in the next few days. I think that's going to be a popular combo! Appreciated! Interested to hear your impressions of how they sound together too. Quote
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