skidder652003 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 We have an 18" Mackie Thump powered sub. Frankly I've never liked it and think it sounds pants. So we have just purchased 2 of these https://www.pmtonline.co.uk/hh-hps115-active-subwoofer-1400w £350 each. No idea if they will be any good, but the price and 5 year warranty is attractive so we will be outing them next weekend. I will report back if anyone is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 128dB?! Should do the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Pea Turgh said: 128dB?! Should do the trick! That is MAX or peak so probably 122dB real workld but two of those will pack a punch. Should keep up with two tops easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Chienmortbb said: That is MAX or peak so probably 122dB real world but two of those will pack a punch. Should keep up with two tops easily. I hope so. We have 2 x 315 RCF Tops and 2 x 315 RCF wedge monitors (The same as the tops) so hoping for a decent level of clarity and punch. Everything mic'd up apart from Markbass combo which is DI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Any sub can sound like skid marks if you send it too high or low or too much too much. Your active ones should be self filtering and limiting to avoid that but may allow leeway for user exuberance to cause the aforementioned skid marks. So do please RTFM! There's a temptation when your subs are out gunning your mains, to raise the low pass on the subs to help them out. Meh. Edited August 24, 2022 by Downunderwonder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Are you looking to play bass full range through it or as part of a biamped system? From a casual glance, it looks like there's no way to defeat the low pass (high cut) filter that's part of the crossover on the sub itself. That's not going to sound very good as a full range speaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 hours ago, agedhorse said: Are you looking to play bass full range through it or as part of a biamped system? From a casual glance, it looks like there's no way to defeat the low pass (high cut) filter that's part of the crossover on the sub itself. That's not going to sound very good as a full range speaker. https://manuals.plus/hh-electronics/hps-115-active-subwoofer-manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 24/08/2022 at 23:25, skidder652003 said: https://manuals.plus/hh-electronics/hps-115-active-subwoofer-manual The cabinet cuts off between 100 & 200 Hz based on the crossover control. It’s unsuitable as a bass guitar speaker without a full range cabinet to cover above the HF cutoff of the sub cabinet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, agedhorse said: The cabinet cuts off between 100 & 200 Hz based on the crossover control. It’s unsuitable as a bass guitar speaker without a full range cabinet to cover above the HF cutoff of the sub cabinet ok but would they be any good as part of a full PA setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, skidder652003 said: ok but would they be any good as part of a full PA setup? I think our ernest pal Agedhorse missed the point of your enquiry and took a tangent. They are indeed subwoofers. I couldn't say if they have the oomph you need without running down the specs of your other cabs. That's another question AH might address. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I’m sorry, since this is a bass forum I thought you intended to use the sub as a bass amp/cab full range. For its intended use, as a pa sub under tops, it’s fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Hey Steve, still after more volume It’s hard to tell just from the specs how good these will be and how well they will integrate with your RCFs. They are remarkably cheap for something with what looks like a decent crossover, a power amp and 15” speaker. It’s hard to see how they could have spent much on the speaker and it is likely that it will have restricted excursion or an undersized motor system. However it is remarkable just how much some of the cheaper gear is giving you nowadays for your money. On the plus side they will allow you to get more out of your tops and our ears aren’t very sensitive to bass so it is always surprising just how much modest subs will add to your sound. If you are lucky they will have DSP protected the speakers from over excursion so you shouldn’t have to worry about pushing them. These look so like my Wharfedale subs I checked to see who owned HH, it’s actually Laney. That’s probably good news as Laney are making a lot of solid old school kit. We pulled apart a Laney PA speaker recently and it had quite a decent class A/B amp in it. For the price it sounded great. If you are lucky you might have bought an unremarkable but well priced and specced speaker. Really interested in how you get on with this in practice. Gigging up near the Somerset borders soon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 On 27/08/2022 at 10:10, Phil Starr said: Hey Steve, still after more volume It’s hard to tell just from the specs how good these will be and how well they will integrate with your RCFs. They are remarkably cheap for something with what looks like a decent crossover, a power amp and 15” speaker. It’s hard to see how they could have spent much on the speaker and it is likely that it will have restricted excursion or an undersized motor system. However it is remarkable just how much some of the cheaper gear is giving you nowadays for your money. On the plus side they will allow you to get more out of your tops and our ears aren’t very sensitive to bass so it is always surprising just how much modest subs will add to your sound. If you are lucky they will have DSP protected the speakers from over excursion so you shouldn’t have to worry about pushing them. These look so like my Wharfedale subs I checked to see who owned HH, it’s actually Laney. That’s probably good news as Laney are making a lot of solid old school kit. We pulled apart a Laney PA speaker recently and it had quite a decent class A/B amp in it. For the price it sounded great. If you are lucky you might have bought an unremarkable but well priced and specced speaker. Really interested in how you get on with this in practice. Gigging up near the Somerset borders soon? Yer Tiz bike rally, near crediton? 1st October. Newton St Cyres, Exeter EX5 5AT http://www.yertizbikerally.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Yer tiz, where's that to then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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