Easter Aguilar Bunny

[warwickhunt]

x2 DB12s (one with tweeter, one without) and I initially thought that I would need the tweeter on full all of the time. I've come to appreciate that the tweeter on 12:00 (50%) gives me plenty of top end clarity for that old school tone with a bit of bite (oh yes all technical terms with me ).

[biskitbass]

[quote name='Legion' post='467836' date='Apr 20 2009, 08:48 PM']G, when I tested the cabs out I A/B'd between a GS112NT & a DB112NT. Already having 2 GS112's I sort of knew what to expect when I added the 2nd cab to that configuration. The extra cab makes a sizeable difference to my ears as it just helps you move that much more air which gives the sound more presence and enables it to carry further. I know a lot of people are quite anti-tweeter but it certainly adds a lot to the sound and having the option of turning it down if you don't like it (or if its distorting under extreme circumstances) makes it worth having for me.

How did you get on?[/quote]

Thanks for that Legion, kinda makes sense about air...yeah I bought it !! Been playing it all weekend :-) Can't get the smile off my face :-) Love the sound, the power, the low end, the clarity out of such a small unit - amazing !!
I consider myself a convert. Now to shop for the Aguilar head :-0
I'll try to get some pics up soon.
Graeme

[Higgie]

I bought my DB112NT earlier today, so should be here in the next 12 hours or so

Pics coming soon

[Higgie]

The cab came in today. Legion, our rigs are virtually identical except for I have the SC amp

Didn't want to hijack your thread so check my Porn thread out if you want to see the collection

[biskitbass]

Hey guys. I've been using my new Aguilar DB 112 with my Hartke head for the last three days in gigs (town halls, small halls and full venue with 10k rigs) with an assortment of results....

Using just the one DB112 in the large hall wasn't loud enough on stage [u]at all[/u], totally lost the sound in the hall but then it aint easy to get a good sound with any gear in that kinda situation, the smaller hall I had it set on top of a PA case at ear level so the sound carried great and I was quite close to it so I was happy with the sound but last night....the venue (The Lemontree in Aberdeen) had a great totally flat sound on stage, a great wee stage where 9 of us fitted and played a long set. At sound check the bass sound was clear, tight and growly - great but as soon as the whole band started my bottom-end (excuse the phrase) totally dropped out, all I got was mid and top !!! I had to ask the PA guy to put bass in my monitors !!!!

I'm now resigning myself to the fact that I'm gonna have to buy another Aguilar cab to supply the low end for these loud gigs. I was maybe too 'scared' as well as its a new toy to really crank it up for volume in case I blew something (the cab is 300W and the head is 200W - could that happen?? Sorry, non techie, I'll stick to making the music). I'd really appreciate anyone's advice on this.

Should I go for a 115 or will I get more air (thanks Legion) and [u]enough[/u] bottom end from just adding another DB112 with the tweeter turned way down?
Confused? YES !!!
Graeme

[Higgie]

Mate, adding another 112 will be all you need. Seriously.

[Legion]

[quote name='biskitbass' post='472726' date='Apr 26 2009, 03:53 PM']Hey guys. I've been using my new Aguilar DB 112 with my Hartke head for the last three days in gigs (town halls, small halls and full venue with 10k rigs) with an assortment of results....

Using just the one DB112 in the large hall wasn't loud enough on stage [u]at all[/u], totally lost the sound in the hall but then it aint easy to get a good sound with any gear in that kinda situation, the smaller hall I had it set on top of a PA case at ear level so the sound carried great and I was quite close to it so I was happy with the sound but last night....the venue (The Lemontree in Aberdeen) had a great totally flat sound on stage, a great wee stage where 9 of us fitted and played a long set. At sound check the bass sound was clear, tight and growly - great but as soon as the whole band started my bottom-end (excuse the phrase) totally dropped out, all I got was mid and top !!! I had to ask the PA guy to put bass in my monitors !!!!

I'm now resigning myself to the fact that I'm gonna have to buy another Aguilar cab to supply the low end for these loud gigs. I was maybe too 'scared' as well as its a new toy to really crank it up for volume in case I blew something (the cab is 300W and the head is 200W - could that happen?? Sorry, non techie, I'll stick to making the music). I'd really appreciate anyone's advice on this.

Should I go for a 115 or will I get more air (thanks Legion) and [u]enough[/u] bottom end from just adding another DB112 with the tweeter turned way down?
Confused? YES !!!
Graeme[/quote]

Graeme - as Higgie says another 12 will add a lot of power, although I have to add that I think the GS112 cabs are a little more bass heavy than the DB112 range. Maybe you should check those out if you think that you need more earth shaking sorta bass.

J

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='Legion' post='472829' date='Apr 26 2009, 06:25 PM']Graeme - as Higgie says another 12 will add a lot of power, although I have to add that [u]I think the GS112 cabs are a little more bass heavy than the DB112 range[/u]. Maybe you should check those out if you think that you need more earth shaking sorta bass.

J[/quote]

I wouldn't say that was strictly the case!

Myself, Marcus and WoT recently got together and we did an A/B of a pair of GS112s and a pair of DB112s and I have to say that I don't think that any one of us considered that the GSs had more bass/bottom end than the DBs.

[Legion]

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='472833' date='Apr 26 2009, 06:30 PM']I wouldn't say that was strictly the case!

Myself, Marcus and WoT recently got together and we did an A/B of a pair of GS112s and a pair of DB112s and I have to say that I don't think that any one of us considered that the GSs had more bass/bottom end than the DBs.[/quote]

Oh well, I did change 2 factors at once - my amp and my cabs, maybe the markbass was responsible for the extra bass I thought I was hearing.

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='Legion' post='472866' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:20 PM']Oh well, I did change 2 factors at once - my amp and my cabs, maybe the markbass was responsible for the extra bass I thought I was hearing.[/quote]

I know that a year or two ago I was chasing my own tail trying to get the sound I wanted from a bunch of amps/cabs and unfortunately I didn't have the sense to settle on one amp and then find the cabs to match I just kept swapping out amp/cab/amp/cab and I was getting no further forward. Each time I seemed to find that something wasn't quite hitting the spot I seemed to change the wrong bit of equipment... it didn't help that I was also going through a purge of basses that I had collected and didn't even keep that one factor constant; harsh and expensive lesson learned.

[Rowbee]

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='472884' date='Apr 26 2009, 07:42 PM']I know that a year or two ago I was chasing my own tail trying to get the sound I wanted from a bunch of amps/cabs and unfortunately I didn't have the sense to settle on one amp and then find the cabs to match I just kept swapping out amp/cab/amp/cab and I was getting no further forward. Each time I seemed to find that something wasn't quite hitting the spot I seemed to change the wrong bit of equipment... it didn't help that I was also going through a purge of basses that I had collected and didn't even keep that one factor constant; harsh and expensive lesson learned. [/quote]

I had a similar problem but it was fun at the time.

Graeme, a second 1x12 cab will certainly help. I sometimes make do with one at rehearsals but always take both to gigs and it does help fill out the bottom a little more.

It sound like you're playing reasonably large venues so front of house is covered by the PA? To me that means your rig is effectively just on stage monitoring so I wouldn't have a problem asking the sound guy to put some bass through the monitors - I like to move around the stage.

[biskitbass]

Guys...


What can I say?? This is THE place to be for everything bass-related :-)

Thankyou all for your advice. I'll try out another 112 in the mix and see how we get on (like I need an excuse to buy another gorgeous Chocolate Thunder LOL).

Yeah Rowbee I play larger venues with one of the bands I dep for so it's easier getting the PA guy to put bass into the monitor mix. Other gigs though would prob suffice with the one cab. It's nice now though to have the 'option' of taking a bigger rig or a smaller one to gigs as having the two cabs would be 'modular'. Smaller gigs, smaller cab etc.
Totally understand as well Warickhunt - with a family etc I don't want to run the risk of going through a painful and expensive lesson in getting 'that' sound :-)
Looks like I'm on the right tracks so far though - next a TFunk head LOL, or Aguilar, not thought that far ahead yet - hey is it true Dave Funk aint making the 550 heads any more that he's only doing the more powerful ones/750 ??

I know Robbie @ RIM Basses (was/is) a UK distributor for them, is that where you got your's mate (warwickhunt) ?

[Rowbee]

I would add that I only have two 1x12 cabs and am confident that they pretty much do as good a job as any other larger setup for a venue where bass through the PA is not required. It's actually surprised me how powerful the cabs are and I don't think I would ever go back to something like a 1x15 and 4x10 because there's no need.

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='biskitbass' post='472980' date='Apr 26 2009, 10:24 PM']Guys...


What can I say?? This is THE place to be for everything bass-related :-)

Thankyou all for your advice. I'll try out another 112 in the mix and see how we get on (like I need an excuse to buy another gorgeous Chocolate Thunder LOL).

Yeah Rowbee I play larger venues with one of the bands I dep for so it's easier getting the PA guy to put bass into the monitor mix. Other gigs though would prob suffice with the one cab. It's nice now though to have the 'option' of taking a bigger rig or a smaller one to gigs as having the two cabs would be 'modular'. Smaller gigs, smaller cab etc.
Totally understand as well Warickhunt - with a family etc I don't want to run the risk of going through a painful and expensive lesson in getting 'that' sound :-)
Looks like I'm on the right tracks so far though - next a TFunk head LOL, or Aguilar, not thought that far ahead yet - hey is it true Dave Funk aint making the 550 heads any more that he's only doing the more powerful ones/750 ??

I know Robbie @ RIM Basses (was/is) a UK distributor for them, is that where you got your's mate (warwickhunt) ?[/quote]

I'd certainly advocate doubling up on the DB12 rather than adding a 15 into the mix.

I was lucky enough to pick my TF550 up on here. I seem to recall that the 550 has been phased out but by all accounts the 750 has the same tone just more power (not that I think you'd need it). The Aguilar or Epifani amps were two contenders had I not gone for the TF (along with the wish list of various other amps i.e. Aggie DB750, which had to be discounted due to weight limitations). If you're ever across Newcastle way you are more than welcome to call in for a cuppa BUT be warned Neil (Bassoctopuss) did that and he now owns a TF!

[biskitbass]

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='473003' date='Apr 26 2009, 11:08 PM']I'd certainly advocate doubling up on the DB12 rather than adding a 15 into the mix.

I was lucky enough to pick my TF550 up on here. I seem to recall that the 550 has been phased out but by all accounts the 750 has the same tone just more power (not that I think you'd need it). The Aguilar or Epifani amps were two contenders had I not gone for the TF (along with the wish list of various other amps i.e. Aggie DB750, which had to be discounted due to weight limitations). If you're ever across Newcastle way you are more than welcome to call in for a cuppa BUT be warned Neil (Bassoctopuss) did that and he now owns a TF! [/quote]

Thanks mate! I've attached a piccy my mate sent me taken at one of my recent gigs. Now avctively looking online for best deals on another DB112 in chocolate thunder, The Bass Merchant seems the best deal so far...

G