fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Recently played through someone else's amp as i couldnt be bothered to take my own rig, and was really surprised at the tone. It was one of the Electric Blue combos .. a 180, so it said. 180 watt ?? Have no idea about wattage, or drivers ( size and how many ) but simply thought what a wonderful tone. Thing is, if i were playing with the rest of our over driven over loud band with 2 gittards, i'd get swallowed up Do Ashdown make an exact copy of this little combo, in a bigger package ? I'm also assuming, rightly or wrongly, that this little combo was old-ish, just because of the way it looked.. great big knobs, on/off switch on the back, .. just looked like it had been built way back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Looks like the electric blue is discontinued, but not all that old - they're still selling some stuff with similar retro styling... not sure how they'd compare sound wise though http://ashdownmusic.com/products/1/Bass-Amplification/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Cheers stoo Had a looksee at the link, and there's nothing comparable on there that i can see. I even checked the ' discontinued ' option on the site, and the only Electric Blue stuff was just one head , and 2 combos that were called 220 EB Elite. They didn't have any Electric Blue combos in the discontinued section that related to the combo i played through Bit strange that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) the electric blue stuff was a bargin version of the Mag series i believe which was the bargin version of the ABM range. have a look at the current AAA range and the Rootmaster range. I have the Rootmaster RM 800 and the Ashdown tone is definately there, the Rootmaster is the update of the Mag series (i think) but some stores also still have the older Mag products in stock Edited March 22, 2016 by lowhand_mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Aha! Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) no problem but i would still recommend you get out and try some to make sure the tone is still what you were after and dont look just at combos, look at the seperate heads and cabs too, the new rootmaster range looks really good and from what i've heard the cabs are pretty light and the heads are pretty small and light too. really depends on your budget had a quick look in Ashdowns legacy stuff and found this head[url="http://ashdownmusic.com/products/1/Bass-Amplification/18/Legacy/93/EB-180-Head/"] http://ashdownmusic.com/products/1/Bass-Amplification/18/Legacy/93/EB-180-Head/[/url] which would probably have been the same as the amp in the combo you tried. The spec is very similar to the Mag Evo range except you didnt get the classic VU meter, compressor and lowerpower rating and cheaper cabinet build. Edited March 22, 2016 by lowhand_mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 I guess i was just being greedy Mike I already have 2 complete rigs and an Ampeg BA600 1x15 combo. I was simply taken aback when i just plugged straight into this little combo ( not a pedal in sight ) and was wowed by the tone. The only thought i have as that many companies dont follow the philosophy "if it aint broke, don't fix it " so i'm already assuming they would have changed many things from the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Oh Em Gee Rootmaster C115T 500 EVO combo ...17.5kg ? I bet you have to cable up another cab for the 500 watts though Edited March 22, 2016 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 haha ok, imho the tone is still the same as the first Mag 2x10 combo that i owned and the rootmaster that i have (which is digital) still sounds as smooth and warm as the older versions, i think ashdown have their tone and they improve the spec of their equipment (i'm not an ashdown fanboy btw ) i just like the way it sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 [quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1458666835' post='3009682'] Oh Em Gee Rootmaster C115T 500 EVO combo ...17.5kg ? I bet you have to cable up another cab for the 500 watts though [/quote] hmm PMT it says 22kg but still not bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Only a 5kg difference .. think i'd prefer 17.5kg Edited March 22, 2016 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 I like the Speaking option over regular Jack input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 [quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1458667267' post='3009688'] Only a 5kg difference .. think i'd prefer 17.5kg [/quote] i think the speaking option is only on the cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 It should read Speakon , shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 i know and dont call me shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Sorry Shirley Mike.. Gear4music and Andertons both list it as 17.5kg Edited March 22, 2016 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Mark Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I had a EB180-12 combo and it sounded so sweet that I built a 1x12 extension cab to get the full 180 watts out of it. It was giggable and fuelled my love of 12" cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Is the old 180 EB the only model ? If so, then the combo i played through was the 1 x12. I would have thought they'd have built a 2x10 or 1x15, just to have a range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Oops , they did a 1x15 http://www.music-blvd.com/store/product/view/Ashdown_EB_15_180_Electric_Blue_EVO_II_180W_1x15_Bass_Combo_Amp-22523972-th.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I have had an EB 180 1x12 for a few years now. I use it mostly for rehearsing, but also for some gigs. Great little combo that only cost me 90 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Despite falling in lurve with the 180, its not going to cut it volume wise with our band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 [quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1458687319' post='3009970'] Despite falling in lurve with the 180, its not going to cut it volume wise with our band [/quote] I used mine as an on stage monitor at a gig a couple of weeks ago, and DI'd the output through the PA. Worked well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 [quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1458687319' post='3009970'] Despite falling in lurve with the 180, its not going to cut it volume wise with our band [/quote] Di is an option as i did that at a gig in febuary when my Mag 300 had a hissy fit and went all quiet on me but still gave a signal to FOH, but you'd be better off looking into the MAG series stuff which is still hanging around in some places and perfectly giggable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Mark Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 You are probably only getting around 120 watts out of the combo without an extension cab. I found adding another cab made it giggable (twice as loud to my ears). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 The one thing i noticed about the EB was it had a fair old output for its size. I'm wondering if Ashdown's figures for amp volume are conservative ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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