Mykesbass Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Picked up from a couple of posts on the best & worst Christmas song thread, I've always been a fan of great, older productions - Frank Sinatra with Billy May or Nelson Riddle, and a little later, some of the great overblown disco productions by the likes of Casablanca and Philadelphia Records. I'll kick things of with one of the latter but would love to hear your suggestions. (n.b. check that piano at 1:27)! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG4bfki_114"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG4bfki_114[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) I think I am going to enjoy this thread. The Christmas thread had me thinking about those golden years productions as well, the art of Arranging seems to be vanishing in the pop world. I suppose that is more to do with the way things are recorded these days (possibly). http://youtu.be/I0NkhUOWzZg Edited December 17, 2015 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1450382986' post='2932316'] ...the art of Arranging seems to be vanishing in the pop world. I suppose that is more to do with the way things are recorded these days (possibly)... [/quote] Or because the intended consumers can't (or won't) concentrate on anything for more than thirty seconds, so it's become unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1450385407' post='2932358'] Or because the intended consumers can't (or won't) concentrate on anything for more than thirty seconds, so it's become unnecessary. [/quote] Surely it should have the opposite effect (and sorry for calling you Shirley), with a great arrangement making those changes, lifting a song in the right place, moving it in a completely new direction, not allowing those with a limited attention span time to get bored? Budget and technology I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Oh, and just so this doesn't take off as a 70s soul thread, here's the rather magnificent work of Arif Mardin, Jerry Wexler and Tom Dowd - check the snare accent - on the fifth beat of every two bars, best sounding waltz rhythm I've heard: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z28gt8wBNo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z28gt8wBNo[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) I just noticed something under your name, Mykesbass. http://youtu.be/CPMpeNDIGdk Edited December 17, 2015 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 You just can't argue with the sound of the first Boston album. Sublime. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTFD5DZwK7g[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybertect Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) One of my reference albums for good production and arrangements is Rickie Lee Jones' [i]Pirates [/i]from 1980. I borrowed it from my local library (along with Zappa's [i]Hot Rats[/i]) not long after it was released on the strength of liking the cover images and was completely bowled over by both albums - I don't think I've quite recovered since Most of Steely Dan present, including Steve Gadd drumming and Chuck Rainey on bass. Sublime [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6YWgumUBc[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBgGwr_Ktg[/media] Edited December 18, 2015 by cybertect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1450392196' post='2932440'] I just noticed something under your name, Mykesbass. [/quote] Guilty as charged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 [quote name='Doctor J' timestamp='1450392701' post='2932445'] You just can't argue with the sound of the first Boston album. Sublime. [/quote] Yep, 1976 and sounds bang up to date production wise. [quote name='cybertect' timestamp='1450428960' post='2932619'] One of my reference albums for good production and arrangements is Rickie Lee Jones' [i]Pirates [/i]from 1980. I borrowed it from my local library (along with Zappa's [i]Hot Rats[/i]) not long after it was released on the strength of liking the cover images and was completely bowled over by both albums - I don't think I've quite recovered since Most of Steely Dan present, including Steve Gadd drumming and Chuck Rainey on bass. Sublime [/quote] Love the way you can hear the album tracks marrying up to one another, and can hear a huge nod towards Chuck E's in Love from the previous album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 One of the combinations discussed in the Christmas thread was Nelson Riddle and the Capitol Studio - here they are doing what the do best - love the build up to the trombone, and then the ever so slightly cheesy, but beautifully executed final two bars, with that classic combination of double bass and triangle! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPu0zkfmglQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPu0zkfmglQ[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Frank Sinatra and Quincy Jones on the "LA Is My Lady" sessions. Although FS seems to be struggling a bit, the Big Band build up through the track is fantastic. Star studded band! http://youtu.be/A9klGr3ELkg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks for sbrag for reminding me about the Manhattans: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4vlthJImVw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4vlthJImVw[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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