phsycoandy Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 All. Big admission. You all know I sold my Spitfire recently, huge wrench, but I just couldn't get her to cut through the mix in the band like my mundane Sadowskys, which just seem to own and sound huge and solid. The Spitfire sounded great but just thin!, I tried all sorts of eq over several gigs and even the guitarist who as you know normally don't even notice us commented on how much he liked the Sadowsky sound better and how much fuller it sounded. Just my rant and observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 [quote name='phsycoandy' post='692637' date='Dec 23 2009, 10:18 PM']All. Big admission. You all know I sold my Spitfire recently, huge wrench, but I just couldn't get her to cut through the mix in the band like my mundane Sadowskys, which just seem to own and sound huge and solid. The Spitfire sounded great but just thin!, I tried all sorts of eq over several gigs and even the guitarist who as you know normally don't even notice us commented on how much he liked the Sadowsky sound better and how much fuller it sounded. Just my rant and observation.[/quote] Eh? With all that boost in the EQ you couldn't find a way of cutting through the mix?! Did you put the 30s on her? That wouldn't have helped matters! Still, each to their own, people are different and appreciate different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 It would seem Bernie has dropped a note to Basschat users on his website. [url="http://www.gbguitars.co.uk"]http://www.gbguitars.co.uk[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='692614' date='Dec 23 2009, 09:44 PM']Cool! So..... How you finding it?![/quote] The neck did not like the journey in the cold. I'll let you know when I have set it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 [quote name='pantherairsoft' post='692766' date='Dec 24 2009, 08:23 AM']The neck did not like the journey in the cold. I'll let you know when I have set it up![/quote] Oh crumbs - yeah! The cold would have probably shifted the (young!) neck - no problem, a quick tweak should sort that. You'll find over time that the neck will settle - it's probably still finding it's natural position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunetune_jazz Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 [quote name='phsycoandy' post='692637' date='Dec 23 2009, 10:18 PM']All. Big admission. You all know I sold my Spitfire recently, huge wrench, but I just couldn't get her to cut through the mix in the band like my mundane Sadowskys, which just seem to own and sound huge and solid. The Spitfire sounded great but just thin!, I tried all sorts of eq over several gigs and even the guitarist who as you know normally don't even notice us commented on how much he liked the Sadowsky sound better and how much fuller it sounded. Just my rant and observation.[/quote] Sorry to hear you got to let it go ... I have a few words that may help when you decide to go back ... I think it all depends on choice ... I have played so many GB's and can honestly say that I have never had a problem with any of them cutting through the mix or a session. Sado's are a very nice bass and they play really well. I have owned some of the very early models hand made by Roger .... way back in the day...and they have a specific purpose ... I call them A super Jazz. But I have to say if you have a problem with your sound and the GB is not cutting it, then you need to go down and see Bernie (in person) and explain what you need the bass to do and how you need the bass to sound .. and that's it ... Most of the time as players, if we do not get the required sound out of our boutique basses we tend to change bass rather than solve the issue ... The difference between most of the basses made to today and a GB Bass ... is the personal touch.. you may pay the premium, but what you get in return is commitment, dedication and first class service in everything that Bernie builds ... there are not that may luithers/builders out there today that have the same passion when it comes to making a bass or guitar or stand by their instruments until the problem is resolved. Stand back and listen to Sellers/Sales people most of the time the first words that come out are always the same "Its a fantastic bass" doesn't it look pretty, with Bernie it always What do you want the bass to do? How do you want it to look and feel? And if you have a problem with it bring it back and I will sort it ... That's it in a nutshell... Jz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 (edited) +1 to what Jazz said! :-) And here are a few pics of mine.... Ash Body - Finished in Duck egg blue, with matching headstock Tiger-Stripe Maple neck Indian Rosewood Board All the usual crazy electronics, including the tuner and metronome 19mm string spacing 35" scale Surprising light as well! Notice the scratch plate... no screws... held on by Goodfellow magic! More pics in my Gear thread Took a while to get the neck and action right due to shipping in the cold... something Bernie was reluctant to do but I insisted! 2 days later... here we are, plays great, action is low and feels perfect to my hands. Tonally it is absolutely stunning. A little less 'Natural' bass than my Overwater, but with the huge boost the EQ can give you I can match that easily. Top end... well... like nothing on the planet. Bernie and the guys really have thought of everything as well... when I first plugged it in, the metronome was deafening and I was initially a tad worried that it would be unusable... but then he called me, to make sure I had received it and was happy with everything (Quality after service!) and talked me though the internal control system for it so I could turn it down. Very happy, stunning bass... :-) Edited December 29, 2009 by pantherairsoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunetune_jazz Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 [quote name='pantherairsoft' post='693660' date='Dec 26 2009, 12:33 PM']+1 to what Jazz said! :-) And here are a few pics of mine.... Ash Body - Finished in Duck egg blue, with matching headstock Tiger-Stripe Maple neck Indian Rosewood Board All the usual crazy electronics, including the tuner and metronome 19mm string spacing 35" scale Surprising light as well! Notice the scratch plate... no screws... held on by Goodfellow magic! Took a while to get the neck and action right due to shipping in the cold... something Bernie was reluctant to do but I insisted! 2 days later... here we are, plays great, action is low and feels perfect to my hands. Tonally it is absolutely stunning. A little less 'Natural' bass than my Overwater, but with the huge boost the EQ can give you I can match that easily. Top end... well... like nothing on the planet. Bernie and the guys really have thought of everything as well... when I first plugged it in, the metronome was deafening and I was initially a tad worried that it would be unusable... but then he called me, to make sure I had received it and was happy with everything (Quality after service!) and talked me though the internal control system for it so I could turn it down. Very happy, stunning bass... :-)[/quote] +1 ... So awesome Chris a really nice bass looks like a real stunner and the color is so retro. I think I will get rid of the 4 and go 5 too .. Jz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Worth thinking about Jazz. The Low B is fantastic and the EQ means you can get just the right growl out of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al embic Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='692682' date='Dec 23 2009, 11:20 PM']It would seem Bernie has dropped a note to Basschat users on his website. [url="http://www.gbguitars.co.uk"]http://www.gbguitars.co.uk[/url][/quote] nice little touch there again from mr goodfellow..... as for the bass not cutting through the mix,did you ask bernie to swap the humbuckers for single coils?....the spitfire i heard with singles in it was quite a different beast to mine with humbuckers....could still get the glassy highs and earth moving lows though!! love the new egg blue colour too,still not sure bout the new plate????sure it'll grow on me. all the best with your new un....year 10 for mine,no plans to ever part with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I doubt this will be going anywhere short of disaster striking... Great instrument. The new scratch plate grew on me in a big way, prefer it to the 'standard' one to be honest... Hopefully Bernie will make me a few so I can change them depending on mood :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 [quote name='pantherairsoft' post='694311' date='Dec 27 2009, 03:17 PM']I doubt this will be going anywhere short of disaster striking... Great instrument. The new scratch plate grew on me in a big way, prefer it to the 'standard' one to be honest... Hopefully Bernie will make me a few so I can change them depending on mood :-)[/quote] Glad to hear that it's working out! That Spitfire is a beaut and the scratchplate really sets it off. I've noticed that you are now Markbass/EBS - hows that working out? Markbass heads/EBS cabs or Markbass cabs/EBS head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 [quote name='EBS_freak' post='694440' date='Dec 27 2009, 06:36 PM']Glad to hear that it's working out! That Spitfire is a beaut and the scratchplate really sets it off. I've noticed that you are now Markbass/EBS - hows that working out? Markbass heads/EBS cabs or Markbass cabs/EBS head?[/quote] I have an EBS cab in my posession at the moment, which I expect will be staying with me. I have considered shifting from my SA450 Markbass head, to a EBS HD350 given the reasonable 2nd hand prices, would need to sell the MarkBass to buy the EBS, leaving me head-less for a period of time... Also I do actually like the MarkBass head... I did the EBS heads exploit the top end a little better but find that the markbass has a slightly more 'all round' sound... To my ear of course! Unless I find a trade deal, my head for your head so to speak, I expect I will stick with MarkBass heads. I do currently have Microbass II pedal at the mo which I find great in a live situation, but rather poor for home/quiet studio work given the way you balance the the channel volumes. The clean channel sounds nice with the GB. The Overdriven channel sounds nice with my Overwater... I have put that up for sale to be honest... What I would say about the ebs cab is that the tweeter is very different to that of the markbass tweeter, far more defined. Which I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 [quote name='pantherairsoft' post='694456' date='Dec 27 2009, 07:04 PM']What I would say about the ebs cab is that the tweeter is very different to that of the markbass tweeter, far more defined. Which I like.[/quote] The tweeter is awesome on the EBS cabs... really, really clear top end without being all spikey and harsh... and of course, you can attenuate to taste. Those shimmery highs don't get lost... which I really like. Which can have you got? A Neo 2x12? I reckon that or a 4x10 is the ultimate for a small, light single cab solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='EBS_freak' post='694754' date='Dec 28 2009, 11:12 AM']Which can have you got? A Neo 2x12?[/quote] That's the one. Seems like it's going to do the trick! :-) As an EBS can user... How does the -db work on the can attenuation dial... I understand the tweeter being boosted buy +3db, bit not sure I understand how effect it under 0. Do I assume that at 0 the Tweeter is off, and as you move into -db territory the dial cuts top end buy dialled amount from the cab speakers as a whole? As the dial goes above 0 then the tweeter kicks in to boost said frequencies... (Sorry wrong forum for such discussion, answer me via PM if you prefer...) Edited December 28, 2009 by pantherairsoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 Consider the 0db as the point where the EQ of the cab is flat in that the output from the tweeter is matched with the main drivers. Boosting makes the horn more prominent in the EQ response of the cab. In the -db regions, consider the cabs response as the ultra highs being rolled off... Right to the point when the tweeter is fully off (eg all the way ccw on the dial) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Just a couple of tips re:eq... If you are using an EBS cab with EBS head, consider using the cabs with the tweeters full up and control the output of the super highs using the bright (and treble eq) pots. Unlike other basses, GBs have enormous amounts of boost available in the preamp. Try setting your nominal level on the master volume on the bass at about 75%... This gives your amp some headroom when you start boosting frequencies. Similarly, when using say just the back pickup, it gives you somewhere to go in terms of volume. I never really use the GBs flat with the volume on full... I find that the above helps you get all the tones under control!! eg use the boost and cut on the bass to control your volume and tone and the master volume to trim or boost the output as required. That's just what I do, I know other people are different. Of course, the pickups and circuit are extremely sensitive to touch so your playing style and technique can all come into play too! Edited December 28, 2009 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 That makes sense... Will have th chance to try it out in a rehearsal studio setting with my funk band later this week... Will let y'all know how it cuts in the mix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 OK... just a few vids for you featuring Neil Simpson and his GB Spitfire (with sound to light unit). This is from the Roy Wood Christmas shows supporting Status Quo. These vids are taken from the Wembley show. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Was down in the bassment and there was a nice collection currently in... so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) [quote name='EBS_freak' post='702494' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:41 AM']Was down in the bassment and there was a nice collection currently in... so...[/quote] f*** me, has he hoovered, or just in that corner? Edited January 6, 2010 by johnnylager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsfreddy2003 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Ha ha!! That has to be coming from a man who has been to Bernie's many a time? [quote name='johnnylager' post='702515' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:05 AM']f*** me, has he hoovered, or just in that corner?[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 [quote name='johnnylager' post='702515' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:05 AM']f*** me, has he hoovered, or just in that corner?[/quote] He moved the chair.... ...exposed fresh carpet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsfreddy2003 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 What wood is used on the facings of the 6 stringer? Can't quite see on my screen. Mark [quote name='EBS_freak' post='702494' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:41 AM']Was down in the bassment and there was a nice collection currently in... so...[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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