TRBboy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hey people, just noticed this on ebay. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Texas-Customs-Gold-Jazz-Bass-controls-also-fits-fender-/300570078757?pt=Guitar&hash=item45fb5f6e25"]Texas Customs Gold[/url] Anyone seen or used one of these before? Seems a lot of dosh for a passive control system, I can't believe they really sound THAT much better than a standard CTS wiring kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yeah but the pots have chokes ... er sorry... "[b]new[/b] hum canceling technology" fitted and there's a vintage USA [s]snake[/s] oil can capacitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisd24 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='TRBboy' post='1277560' date='Jun 21 2011, 07:34 PM']Hey people, just noticed this on ebay. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Texas-Customs-Gold-Jazz-Bass-controls-also-fits-fender-/300570078757?pt=Guitar&hash=item45fb5f6e25"]Texas Customs Gold[/url] Anyone seen or used one of these before? Seems a lot of dosh for a passive control system, I can't believe they really sound THAT much better than a standard CTS wiring kit.[/quote] Was looking at this earlier actually....certainly looks pretty....although you never see the underside do you...maybe time for a perspex control plate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Johnston' post='1277588' date='Jun 21 2011, 07:49 PM']Is that the cylindrical looking thing on the pots??[/quote] Yeah, that's what I'm presuming they are. If they are chokes (inductors) then I guess they could potentially alter the tone somewhat .... only aplicable if you can tell the difference between a single coil and a bucker like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Johnston' post='1277588' date='Jun 21 2011, 07:49 PM']Is that the cylindrical looking thing on the pots??[/quote] Yeah. Hardly new technology, they've been around for years - it's a coil of wire wrapped around a ferrite core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Definitely doesn't seem worth the money to me then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibrating G String Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='TRBboy' post='1277560' date='Jun 21 2011, 11:34 AM']I can't believe they really sound THAT much better than a standard CTS wiring kit.[/quote] Don't believe it sounds ANY better. If you believe it sounds even a tiny bit better you've fallen for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If adding a cheap little component like a choke was going to make such a huge difference then everyone and their dog would have done this years ago. The biggest problem with stuff like this is that it's the musical version of the Emporers New Clothes. Once people fall for it and hand over stupid sums of money, they will swear blind that it's absolutely fantastic rather than admit they spent all that money and can't tell the difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='icastle' post='1277743' date='Jun 21 2011, 09:00 PM']If adding a cheap little component like a choke was going to make such a huge difference then everyone and their dog would have done this years ago.[/quote] Gibson fitted chokes to basses for years. That's probably why no-one else did it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='neepheid' post='1277870' date='Jun 21 2011, 10:47 PM']Gibson fitted chokes to basses for years. That's probably why no-one else did it then [/quote] I believe the Gibby chokes are to kill the "pop" when swicthing modes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 So what does a choke actually do? In the old days it was used until the engine heated up enough for it to be put back in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Delberthot' post='1277898' date='Jun 21 2011, 11:05 PM']So what does a choke actually do? In the old days it was used until the engine heated up enough for it to be put back in[/quote] You also used to have one in front of the car radio power supply lead to stop the distributor revving and ticking all the way through the Jimmy Young show. They are the most basic electronic device... maybe even the first. In this case they act a bit like a phantom coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 So I guess that as I've got split coil pickups I wouldn't notice any difference anyway! I'll find something else to spend my hard-earned on.... ......like another sandberg! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='1277916' date='Jun 21 2011, 11:13 PM']In this case they act a bit like a phantom coil.[/quote] So they stop phantom pregnancies as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibrating G String Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='icastle' post='1277743' date='Jun 21 2011, 01:00 PM']If adding a cheap little component like a choke was going to make such a huge difference then everyone and their dog would have done this years ago. The biggest problem with stuff like this is that it's the musical version of the Emporers New Clothes. Once people fall for it and hand over stupid sums of money, they will swear blind that it's absolutely fantastic rather than admit they spent all that money and can't tell the difference... [/quote] Like with tonewoods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='1277877' date='Jun 21 2011, 10:51 PM'] I believe the Gibby chokes are to kill the "pop" when swicthing modes though.[/quote] Have to quibble with you there my man - the choke is connected to a particular position on the varitone on an EB-3 (either 1 or 4 depending on the age). It is connected to the mid range control of a Ripper. It is connected to the (passive) bass control on a Victory Artist/Custom. It is not there as a buffer, it is a tone shaping device. [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/EB3_schematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/EB3_schematic.php[/url] [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/ripperSchematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/ripperSchematic.php[/url] [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Victory_customschematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Vict...omschematic.php[/url] [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Victory_artistschematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Vict...stschematic.php[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='neepheid' post='1278225' date='Jun 22 2011, 10:19 AM']Have to quibble with you there my man - the choke is connected to a particular position on the varitone on an EB-3 (either 1 or 4 depending on the age). It is connected to the mid range control of a Ripper. It is connected to the (passive) bass control on a Victory Artist/Custom. It is not there as a buffer, it is a tone shaping device. [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/EB3_schematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/EB3_schematic.php[/url] [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/ripperSchematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/ripperSchematic.php[/url] [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Victory_customschematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Vict...omschematic.php[/url] [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Victory_artistschematic.php"]http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/Vict...stschematic.php[/url][/quote] Ah well there you go, another use for it. I wonder how it removes the mids in a Gibby but not in the control plate in the OP's post? In the varitone bass I built I used a choke for the very reason I mentioned above, I'd presumed Gibby used it on their varitones for the same reason too. I deferrer to your far superior Gibson knowledge than mine though... which as you know is zip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='icastle' post='1277961' date='Jun 21 2011, 11:52 PM']So they stop phantom pregnancies as well... [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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