Green Alsatian Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) I read in an interview with Norman some time ago that he used his 70s Precision Bass (which he modded with a J-pickup after New Boots and Panties) to record the earlier Blockheads albums. EDIT - found it. [url="http://www.globalbass.com/archives/june2001/watt-roy.htm"]http://www.globalbass.com/archives/june2001/watt-roy.htm[/url] Edited May 28, 2011 by Green Alsatian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Johnnysonic' post='1247993' date='May 28 2011, 10:26 AM']Plus 1 on the decal not being right for a '62. That type of logo, with the separate 'offset contour body' part, dates from mid '64, and I have never seen the two parts of the logo placed so close together. Sorry to be so anal, but this raises some serious doubts about the bass. Johnny[/quote] Is there a definitive guide to these headstock logos? I found an article that seemed to suggest the logo was the same from '62 through to some point in '65 when the bound neck models were introduced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Green Alsatian' post='1248366' date='May 28 2011, 03:59 PM']I read in an interview with Norman some time ago that he used his 70s Precision Bass (which he modded with a J-pickup after New Boots and Panties) to record the earlier Blockheads albums. EDIT - found it. [url="http://www.globalbass.com/archives/june2001/watt-roy.htm"]http://www.globalbass.com/archives/june2001/watt-roy.htm[/url][/quote] Good memory (and detective work!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Alsatian Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) Cheers! Regarding the headstock decal on Norman's bass, it looks correct according to 'The Fender Bass: An Illustrated History'. On page 34, there is a side-by side explaining the differences between logos on the 62 and 65 headstocks. The 62 (pictured immediately to the right of the text) has five patents under the Fender logo (only four under the 1960 Jazz, earlier in the book) and the 'Contour Body' logo in the same position as on Norman's. On the 65, the 'Contour Body' logo is on the ball of the headstock. Edited May 28, 2011 by Green Alsatian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E sharp Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='molan' post='1248393' date='May 28 2011, 04:20 PM']Good memory (and detective work!) [/quote] Are herein lies the rub . The bass we've all heard on the hits isn't the one for sale at all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnysonic Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Green Alsatian' post='1248656' date='May 28 2011, 09:12 PM']Cheers! Regarding the headstock decal on Norman's bass, it looks correct according to 'The Fender Bass: An Illustrated History'. On page 34, there is a side-by side explaining the differences between logos on the 62 and 65 headstocks. The 62 (pictured immediately to the right of the text) has five patents under the Fender logo (only four under the 1960 Jazz, earlier in the book) and the 'Contour Body' logo in the same position as on Norman's. On the 65, the 'Contour Body' logo is on the ball of the headstock.[/quote] That isn't right. Jazz Basses between 1961 and mid '64 had four sets of patent numbers, not five. The Jazz Bass immediately to the right of the text on page 34 of the book you mention has only four numbers, not five. The bass on the far right does have five numbers, but that's a '65. (Jazz basses in 1960 had no patent numbers.) The '62 on page 34 does have the closer spacing of 'original contour body ' decal, but it is on the same decal 'island' as the 'Fender' part of the decal. In other words, it's a one piece logo. After mid '64 the logo is in two pieces. The logo on Norman's Shoreline is unquestionably a post mid '64, with the five patent numbers and two pieces!!!!!!!!!!!! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney72a Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 It also looks like there's no serial number on the neck plate - or is that just the photo? If the Shoreline Gold finish is original though, that would be very rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Alsatian Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Johnnysonic' post='1248811' date='May 29 2011, 12:23 AM']That isn't right. Jazz Basses between 1961 and mid '64 had four sets of patent numbers, not five. The Jazz Bass immediately to the right of the text on page 34 of the book you mention has only four numbers, not five. The bass on the far right does have five numbers, but that's a '65. (Jazz basses in 1960 had no patent numbers.) The '62 on page 34 does have the closer spacing of 'original contour body ' decal, but it is on the same decal 'island' as the 'Fender' part of the decal. In other words, it's a one piece logo. After mid '64 the logo is in two pieces. The logo on Norman's Shoreline is unquestionably a post mid '64, with the five patent numbers and two pieces!!!!!!!!!!!! J[/quote] You're right on all counts - it is only four and not five. The dual-concentric Jazz bass pictured earlier in the book (with four patents) isn't specifically identified as a 1960, just an 'early 60s', although there is a pic of a 1960 Jazz headstock next to it, sans patents. Time I had another eyetest, methinks! Or learn to count! I'll start with reading the book again more thoroughly! Edited May 29, 2011 by Green Alsatian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 wheres it gone? it appears to no longer be on his site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 [quote name='blackmn90' post='1249042' date='May 29 2011, 12:08 PM']wheres it gone? it appears to no longer be on his site[/quote] Sold or pulled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 [quote name='Stacker' post='1249095' date='May 29 2011, 12:57 PM']Sold or pulled?[/quote] andy baxter usually keeps the ads for his guitars and then just marks them as sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney72a Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Still seems to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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