coop1985 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I LOVE the bass sound that Editors get... anybody know what rig he uses, or how to get a similar sound?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allihts Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Rickenbacker basses, and I think it's an Ampeg SVT VR with an 810 he has an ampeg combo onstage with him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop1985 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks for that!!! Thats one of the reasons I had the Rick, but can't seem to get anywhere near the sound... Must be the beast that is the 8x10 that does it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiegrungesound Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='coop1985' post='1115233' date='Feb 4 2011, 01:25 PM']Thanks for that!!! Thats one of the reasons I had the Rick, but can't seem to get anywhere near the sound... Must be the beast that is the 8x10 that does it!![/quote] I wouldn't worry too much rig wise. Russell's only gone over to Ampeg recently. He used an Ashdown ABM combo and either an Ashdown 8x10" stack or a Fender valve stack. If you still have your Ashdown rig, you should be able to get the sound he used on "The Back Room" and "The End Has A Start". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop1985 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well, using my rig, i've had comments saying that the bass sounds thin. No balls. I'm not sure if it's my EQ'ing, or whether I'm better off going for a 4x10 instead. Only trouble is now, i'm really weary about what i'm buying. I feel like nothing will be good enough unless I go 8x10. lol I really like a band called The Joy Formidable...and he has an amazing live sound. He uses a MAG 500w 410 combo with a Jaguar. It sounds amazing, although his pedalboard is about the size of a coffin, but I keep thinking theres this bass secret that nobody is letting me in on!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Volume. Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop1985 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Haha... is that the secret??? Damn, if only somebody had said earlier!!! lol Im running at pretty much 10, I poo a little bit everytime a play thinking that it's gonna blow!!!... the amp that is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='Truckstop' post='1115510' date='Feb 4 2011, 04:07 PM']Volume. Truckstop[/quote] Well quite. When was the last time someone complimented one us for having 'a nice quiet tone' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiegrungesound Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 [quote name='coop1985' post='1115505' date='Feb 4 2011, 04:04 PM']Well, using my rig, i've had comments saying that the bass sounds thin. No balls. I'm not sure if it's my EQ'ing, or whether I'm better off going for a 4x10 instead. Only trouble is now, i'm really weary about what i'm buying. I feel like nothing will be good enough unless I go 8x10. lol I really like a band called The Joy Formidable...and he has an amazing live sound. He uses a MAG 500w 410 combo with a Jaguar. It sounds amazing, although his pedalboard is about the size of a coffin, but I keep thinking theres this bass secret that nobody is letting me in on!! lol[/quote] Excellent choice of band coop! Saw them play in Manchester last night and they were blinding!... as usual! If transport is no problem(or your back doesn't give you jip), the MAG 4 x 10" is a very good choice. Rhydian gets a great sound out of it! He does have it DI'ed AND mic'd up though. Jenny Lindeberg from Warpaint has also used one of these on that band's last tour over here. Same great sound. So yes, I'd take your ABM 2 x 10" with you as a trade in/part ex for one of those but keep the 15" cab for VERY decent stack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlucas Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah they get an awesome sound from their gear, as do Vampire Weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allihts Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 If you feel your sound is 'thin', up the bass and cut the treble IME thats the easiest way to get more 'boom' to your bass sound. Appologies for all these unhelpful descriptions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop1985 Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks for your replies!! I bet they were quality indie! Especially after hearing The Big Roar. I heard The Chapman Family were good too? Do you think it's worth spending the extra wedge on an ABM rather than a MAG? I think a cab and seperate head would be the way for me, just so the weight is shared, rather than a combo like Rhydian uses. I haven't listened to much of Warpaint... they any good? They're a lot quieter than TJF aren't they? I've tried to up the bass and drop the treble but then the amp just farts and feels like its gonna pop... like indie says, I think 4x10 might be the way... Will I beable to run a 4x10 with a 1x15? I'm not really up on this ohmage lark. I'm nearly there, but what difference is a 2x10 than a 4x10 in terms of ohms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 [quote name='coop1985' post='1119585' date='Feb 7 2011, 10:35 PM']Thanks for your replies!! I bet they were quality indie! Especially after hearing The Big Roar. I heard The Chapman Family were good too? Do you think it's worth spending the extra wedge on an ABM rather than a MAG? I think a cab and seperate head would be the way for me, just so the weight is shared, rather than a combo like Rhydian uses. I haven't listened to much of Warpaint... they any good? They're a lot quieter than TJF aren't they? I've tried to up the bass and drop the treble but then the amp just farts and feels like its gonna pop... like indie says, I think 4x10 might be the way... Will I beable to run a 4x10 with a 1x15? I'm not really up on this ohmage lark. I'm nearly there, but what difference is a 2x10 than a 4x10 in terms of ohms?[/quote] I suspect it's more about your eq to be honest, although if you have a tweeter in your cab that may not help. I've been using Rics for 30 years and have never found a tweeter-loaded cab that they get on with (tell a lie; Accugroove), although YMMV. I'm currently using a Barefaced Compact with an ABM500 and I reckon I could cop that sound if I wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop1985 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Yeah, the cab I use has a tweeter, and you can't switch it off... I borrowed a newer cab to see if it made any difference and that had a switchable tweeter. I'll bear that in mind when I make the purchase. I have played with the EQ for some time now, and I do get a good sound, it just isn't quite loud enough. It's hard to explain, but playing the bass on it's own it's really quiet. I'm gonna make the trip to PMT tomorrow to try and sort something out. Have you been to Manchester PMT? Is it any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Sadly no. If you're too quiet again it could be about eq but it also could be to do with the way you play or,obviously, that you are simply not loud enough for your band (or that your gear can't cope; Rics put out a fair bit of low frequencies, more than most realise). FWIW I once played the Marquee with a 150w Laney power amp and 2 4x10s; IIRC I started with the volume on 3 or so and had to turn down and I'm a very light player (and this was a power pop/rock band) so providing you're eq-d right it shouldn't be that difficult to hear yourself. I spent the bulk of my gigging career using a 150w transistor head into a single 15 with no volume problems whatsoever, competing with guitarists using Marshalls. If you don't want the bulk of a 4x10 you could try a 15. Personally I hate non-defeatable tweeters as all I end up hearing is glass, certainly with my basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=87159&hl=we+forget+the+mids"]The mids[/url] This MAY help, I'm not promising anything though . I took on board a lot of what was said on here about boosting mids and it works for me, especially the low mids. Get a lovely bass growl that cuts through the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiegrungesound Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) [quote name='coop1985' post='1119585' date='Feb 7 2011, 10:35 PM']Thanks for your replies!! I bet they were quality indie! Especially after hearing The Big Roar. I heard The Chapman Family were good too? Do you think it's worth spending the extra wedge on an ABM rather than a MAG? I think a cab and seperate head would be the way for me, just so the weight is shared, rather than a combo like Rhydian uses. I haven't listened to much of Warpaint... they any good? They're a lot quieter than TJF aren't they? I've tried to up the bass and drop the treble but then the amp just farts and feels like its gonna pop... like indie says, I think 4x10 might be the way... Will I beable to run a 4x10 with a 1x15? I'm not really up on this ohmage lark. I'm nearly there, but what difference is a 2x10 than a 4x10 in terms of ohms?[/quote] The Chapman Family were winningly demented. They had to cut a song from their set due to a bass malfunction.(Knackered cables I think.) Still plan to see 'em again in the future though. Warpaint are great IMO, but their brand of all girl prog/shoegaze/post rock/folk/indie rock with layered girl group harmonies is like Marmite. Check out their stuff on Youtube/Hype Machine/Myspace/Soundcloud first and decide for yourself. Now re: ohmage. Must bass cabs(1x12", 1x15", 2x10", 4x10") are rated @ 8 ohms. The larger ones(2x15", 8x10", 6x10", 4x12") are normally rated @ 4 ohms. So, by linking 2 8 ohm cabs together with a speaker cab gives you a 4 ohm cab. If you want more in depth info, someone on this board like Alex Claber (The Barefaced Bass gaffer) will be happy to inform you about more stuff, Edited February 8, 2011 by indiegrungesound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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