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Hardware Side Chain Compressor?


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I know there is at least one pwdal comp that will do the side chain. [s] I can't remeber off the top of my head which one it is[/s], but it isn't cheap.

Edit for model: It's the [url="http://www.fealabs.com/products/OFC-0001.html"]FEA OptiFet[/url]

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[quote name='clauster' post='1095426' date='Jan 19 2011, 05:58 PM']I know there is at least one pwdal comp that will do the side chain. [s] I can't remeber off the top of my head which one it is[/s], but it isn't cheap.

Edit for model: It's the [url="http://www.fealabs.com/products/OFC-0001.html"]FEA OptiFet[/url][/quote]

i had a look at that...

not sure if it's just got the ability to put fx in the side-chain, or if it'll work with just an key signal in the return

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[url="http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMDX1600"]http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMDX1600[/url] Hm, i think this might do the job. And it has two chanels, so i could make 2 different presets, with two line seletors. Now for triggering? Would any cheap mic do it? My main worry is that the mic might catch lots of background noises, even my bass sound.

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[quote name='callingltu' post='1095447' date='Jan 19 2011, 06:19 PM'][url="http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMDX1600"]http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMDX1600[/url] Hm, i think this might do the job. And it has two chanels, so i could make 2 different presets, with two line seletors. Now for triggering? Would any cheap mic do it? My main worry is that the mic might catch lots of background noises, even my bass sound.[/quote]

You might get away with a really cheap mic if you really wrap it up in something soft and sound absorbant then throw it inside the drum. Probably have to play around a bit but I think that should work pretty well.

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As long as you bung the mic in the kick, and point it right at the beater meets skin mark, preferably only an inch or two away from the batter skin, then you are not going to be worrying about bleed at all.

Especially if you have a sidechain filter to pick the frequencies that its going to work off

HINT: You ideally want the smack/click of the beater as the trigger not the thump of the drum. This is because it happens first, and thats what you need for ducking effectively. This is why you want o get the mic so close though, as the snare may well 'compete' at those frequencies...

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a 'bug' type trigger should be fine, although some/most are piezos and would need to be battery powered I think.

That should be fine, until it falls off!

Course you need to either re-attach it to the skin whenever drummer bod changes skins, or attach it to the shell, which may or may not work as well....

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[quote name='51m0n' post='1096121' date='Jan 20 2011, 12:41 PM']This would do the job I think....

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-DT10-Drum-Trigger-/400188926978?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Drums_Percussions_MJ&hash=item5d2d1e6c02"]Yamaha DT10 Drum Trigger[/url][/quote]

As I understand you need drum proccesor to use this? I only have old drum machine 808 or smth like that, but as i understand that wouldnt do the job :)

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[quote name='callingltu' post='1096311' date='Jan 20 2011, 01:39 PM']As I understand you need drum proccesor to use this? I only have old drum machine 808 or smth like that, but as i understand that wouldnt do the job :)[/quote]

Well the issue in fact i sthat the output from it may be the wrong impedance, an will almost certainly not be a high enough voltage to trigger the line (or near line) level input of most key listen inputs on most comressors.

If you ran it through an appropriate preamp (something scavenged from an electroacoustic guitar for instance) then you would be fine....

It is, after all, just a piezo crystal wired up to a jack, as such the compression of the crystal causes an electric current to be produced when it is deformed (by a sound for instance).

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