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I'd spot those strides anywhere... If that's the front of house (speakers on boxes) that you think are suitable for a venue that size, you should have turned that one down too...

[quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1454371905' post='2969185'] A top rank 2x10 like the epi can hold its own in most situations I would say, this is a 500w rms cab with decent sensitivity were talking about. [/quote] Most situations... That's why I asked how loud the band was.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1454362601' post='2969060'] I was hoping he'd rise to the challenge, I'm not after a bun fight! :-) [/quote] There's no knead for that comment.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1454332847' post='2968623'] Did anyone go and see the windmill gig then? How did it go? [/quote] I would kick off the puns about windmills, but I'm not a big fan.

How loud a band are you? Trying to compete with a band with a single 2x10 may be a big ask...

One thing we can be sure of though - they are touring spec strides.

Nope - but there is a stadium sized video wall behind JT's head. And I can't work out if the guitarist has a small head or if it's just an optical illusion as he has no neck.

[quote name='JohnFitzgerald' timestamp='1454233256' post='2967619'] I counted 4 - drummer has one too ;-) [/quote] The drummer really should have kicked off... I would want no less than a side fill. Floor monitor? Screw that.

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/278038-rip-sir-terry-wogan/unread/"]RIP Sir Terry Wogan[/url]

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1454164759' post='2967126'] Why do you bother with a sound guy if you don't let him manage the sound? Great attitude, I bet you sound great [/quote] I want to hear this band too... Because I think I already know how they sound.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1454148295' post='2966874'] I suppose if anyone is in Kent they could pop down and support JTUK tonight and hear the touring grade PA complete with more monitors than most at the Windmill? [url="http://www.windmillinnashford.co.uk/event/grand-slam-jts-allstars/"]http://www.windmillinnashford.co.uk/event/grand-slam-jts-allstars/[/url] [/quote] I'm there.

What's an in house spec? Desk hired in where? Compliment the stock of the engineer? What? So s/he doesn't have to fund cab costs but has one available from you (at a price admittedly)if they happened to need it? Huh? Somebody's using you. DB still seems the runt of the litter in that list... Theatre?? What sort of theatre doesn't have a house sound system? Or are we talking small musical theatre groups that hire a church hall and small PA? Your posts make no sense.

PS, I think you are also mistaking DB for D&B, big difference...

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1454089471' post='2966395'] Yep... but I'd probably be glad about it as well...tbh. If I quote a price and someone comes back way off that price... then you walk away, surely. There will always be someone cheaper anyway... so to me, it is the same thing. As for gear at an event, I'd bill for that. There is minimum spec and I get the point about gear that has had a hard life, but this is all about having dealings with people who are on the same page, IMO...and what is required/desired on the gig As it happens, I'm looking for some high quality monitors..and by that I mean better than QSC.. so Martin, Turbosound or DB etc and I'll use them for vox out front or stage monitors I'll either hire them to the band or I'll sub them to a P.A company as there are never enough quality monitors to go around,I've found, and the local venue can't afford to have more than 6 of them. I'd sub to them when a touring act comes through because their riders always specify DB model or Equivalent.. [/quote] This post is just very odd. You'll hire your monitors to a PA company? What sort of two bit PA companies are running round your way? Hiring stuff off you? Professional PA company? Nah. I just don't believe it... or don't believe you are dealing with a pro PA company. Hire to another band? I can believe that one more... but most bands won't want to spend a penny... and will do without. As for "affording more than 6 monitors"? I think you'll find it more to do with the fact that even high end analogue desks generally top out at 6 aux mixes. It's only when you get into the realms of digital that the aux count gets significantly higher. And if you need more than 6 monitors with your band at The Tickled Trout, you are doing something very wrong. Having that many monitors and a number of open mics in an enclosed space is going to be feedback central, unless you are carrying around some serious 31 band eq stuff for each monitor - which of course, I guess you ask about also? Am sorry to say this - but I think your posts are harmful and misleading to those embarking on their bass journey... because the reality is nothing like what you paint. The most hardened professionals I know, are out on tours playing stadiums, yes - REAL stadiums (not some figment of the imagination or some warped view on what their gig at the working men's club was) and are equally at home at the Tickled Trout - and they certainly make zero phone calls about anything. You just get on with the job and do it with whatever is available to them - if that's no monitoring, so be it. I'm surprised that if your approach to gigging is like this, you do any gigs at all? Yes, by all means, carry around your own PA, lots of people do - but seriously... this expectation on gear and PA at the venues you are playing - it's ridiculous.

I'm wondering if I actually live in a completely different world... Kids, don't turn down gigs. Keep music live. Don't be a monitor snob.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1454058492' post='2965792'] That would be fine. [/quote] Surely you mean "that would be brine"...?

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1454014654' post='2965545'] Come on give us a fish pun! :-) [/quote] If there's one thing that I've learnt, you never make anemone of the sound man.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1454014582' post='2965544'] Take a rig for the stage and make alternative provisions, That is the wonder of telephone calls ahead If the P.A was booked by someone else, then I'd mention it wasn't very good... If I didn't mention it, the vocalist would, more than likely, so it isn't something that wouldn't be commented on. And certain guys wouldn't work that way again so I'd probably lose them off the gig So, it is just easier doing things properly in the first place. [/quote] "You don't think the gear is suitable? No worries, we can just get another band."

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1454009876' post='2965439'] Yes, it is something you learn pretty early on. That is also why you ask. IMO. [/quote] And what do you do about it if said monitors are confirmed as pants?

If you find out, cod you let minnow?

When JTUK plays at the Tickled Trout, he will only play a MusicMan Stingray. In fact, he wasn't happy with the monitor mix (when is he ever?) so had to keep asking for moray in his monitor.

I head that Gospel groupers play there. They've all recently found cod and become prawn again Christians.

Small and Light - Mesa D800

Well, I think he's being a bit shellfish. We all want to hear about the Tickled Trout.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1453981642' post='2964865'] I'm sure he could tackle it if he's practised his scales. [/quote] Maybe we can lure him back into the thread to confirm this line of thinking.