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Thanks for that!

Yes. I'd have to include Rocco Prestia as well.

This is nice. Do PJB make combos you can actually gig with? That are still tiny?

Thundercat is on the move, Thundercat is loose!

OK then, smartarse... Joe Osborn is still with us. Thhp! If you're going to post that sentiment it has to be interesting and thoughful, which it isn't. Thhp!

No Charles Mingus? No Charlie Hayden? Paul Chambers? James Jamerson? Joe Osborn? John Entwistle? What a load of rubbish!!

Forgot about this - an Orange all-valve 120W amp bought in 1976. Definitely should have kept it, even though it weighed a ton.

Are we doing this? OK... but I get So Lonely...

Too much to list, or more accurately I'm too embarrassed to list it all. That's the problem with the Basschat carousel, it's knowing when to get off.

Sweet! Doesn't have to be encyclopedic, just so we can get a feel for it. And decide if it's worth the money!

That's funny - all they say to me is, 'if you do that again, I'm calling the police.'

A house? Pah! Get your priorities right!

Oo-er missus, etc. How about an in-depth review with pics and so forth? Pleeeeeeeassee??

Yes - I meant to say 'nasty pasty'.

I managed about thirty seconds. Bad enough to be a cult, though. He keeps saying 'we' as if he's already a band... and he's looking not only for a drummer and bass player, but a drummer and bass player who can get gigs! He'll probably get about as much response as I got to my ad for 'old fat man seeks attractive young partner with a good job, house and car...'

Not saying, my GAS consists of basses and amps I've already owned and very stupidly moved on.

OK, this thread is making my warts bleed and I'm going to unfollow it for the good of my mental health. I don't like using a bass compressor pedal live. That is all! Enjoy going round in circles for the rest of the day folks, I've got stuff to do!

As long as you've got your Elf, that's the main thing.

Oh God, I meant to 'unfollow' this thread. OK... Back in the real world, where you've got a shed-building drummer a foot from your ear and two guitarists having a show-off volume competition as usual, the singer's falling down drunk and the guy on the desk is a clueless a r s e, I'd say that even the best pedal compressor, set to its optimum value for the situation, would be hard-pushed to make the bass sound any better to anyone in the room, including the bass player. I really don't have a problem with bass players who want to use a pedal compressor - it's a free country (well it isn't, but you know what I mean) - however, IN MY OPINION a pedal compressor is of limited use TO ME. And I do know how to use a compressor. But I like to keep things simple at gigs: Fingers, bass, lead, amp. In conclusion, I put forward the contention that anyone who can use a pedal compressor on bass - for remedial non sound-shaping purposes - and demonstrably produce a positive difference in a live situation - and without using compression on any other instrument or vocal - is probably a sound engineer first and a bass player second. Most bass players are bass players first and sound engineers... not at all. AND NO-ONE LISTENS TO THE BASS ANYWAY!

You're welcome. My 'unnecessary purchase avoidance' fee is a very reasonable 15%...

As a music producer I routinely use various types of compression on individual tracks and entire mixes without a second thought. But live, I'd rather leave it to the engineer - given a big enough gig with a good enough PA. It makes more sense. One guy has control over the whole band. Using your own comp pedal for bass at gigs seems a little unnecessary. IMHO, of course.

I think the bloke who put the alternative words in definitely is...

'Fosters me off'?? What the hell is that?? No apology necessary - in fact this (and other similar threads) have made it very clear to me that I really don't need a compressor pedal. The only one I've found that I like is the Diamond BCP-1 bass compressor, which is less a compressor and more a tone shaper, as any fule kno. But it is a very good tone shaper, even it says 'BASS COMP' on the front. I bought and tried both the Aguilar and Empress compressors, which aren't cheap, but as said above the effect is very subtle - too subtle for me to keep that much investment in them. So I moved them on. Bass players like bang for their buck. And if there's no obvious 'bang' we need to know what the 'buck' is going on??!! I'm really not one for effects in general, so should probably have kept away from all this. The Tech 21 VT Bass I like a lot. The Diamond, of course. The Zoom B1on and the stomp box MS-60B I thought were both very good (and are generally underrated). But all those Filters, Fuzzes, Octavers and Distos..? Nah.

In that case, I can only conclude that most bass players are unaware of what a comp is for and what it really does - and therefore don't know how to use it properly. And the effect of proper use in any case is likely to be so subtle that it will be less than the difference to be got from using a different bass or a different set of strings. So in the chaos of your average pub gig it's hardly worth bothering with a comp pedal and therefore you can save yourself a considerable amount of cash by not buying one. So I will do what I have done for decades, rely on professional engineers and producers to do their thing, and save myself a ton of mental grief and anguish simply by not thinking about pedal comps ever again! It would seem that one would be better off directing one's time and effort into being a better bass player rather than dabbling with forces one does not understand... Thus will the geeks inherit the Earth! These compressor threads are a fecking minefield! I'm out!