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I was listening to this last night again nearly 30 years after I first heard it on Radio London's Robbie Vincents show and thought, this is it, the 100% perfect jazz-funk 'bass sound' and sublime slap n pop playing, there is a lot going on here when you listern carefully in late at night in bed with the headphones on ...but over the last year or so I have been into bass, I have read that it could have been played any by 1 of 4 players....Raymond Jackson, Steve Arrington, Basil Fearington and of course Buddy Hankerson..the Slave connection complicates things and players came and went...all ending in the letters ON for the conspiracy theorists any old skool jazz funk historians shed any light on this?

cheers guys

bash my balls with an iron bar, this is an easy tune, I can nail Rio and Girls On Film, Last Chance on The Stairway all of which are real busy tunes but, the timing of the verse of Hungry Like the Wolf is throwing me a tad.. the bass isn't in time with the the bass drum....well it is sometimes! the verse is 3 beats of E...are these triplets if are there 3 in a bar? the way it is now played now on the re-recording of Rio seems more straightforward, well it does to me? ...is that a Peavey? maybe just be me

thanks for the replies guys, I think it is just down to practice, practice and some more practice. ....also something I may have picked up is that I may not be bouncing my thumb quick enough on the upper strings which could be muting the sound a tad?

It's the thought that counts, cheers

it's not a chinese snide one bought off Fleabay very strange, Yamaha's may not be for everyone (for what ever reason?) but the one thing you rarely see is build quality issues with Yamaha's, even the cheapest RBX170 looks and feels quite plush. I'm sure the replacement one will be OK.

Possibly, but I was thinking more about active v passive....do you really need a rear mounted active humbucker....does string height come into it etc? I'm learning to slap and fiddling about with Get On the Floor (Louis Johnson) and find 1/ the Fender P bass too quiet on the D string when slapped (OK popped) 2/ the Yamaha 414 PJ is far better but still not great 3/ and the jazz VMJ is also too quiet 4/ and I find the strings too close for my right hand on the jazz...technique? 5/ should the D always be popped, if so I gonna struggle with this choone But I was thinking that's possibly why active basses could be better for slap n pop...like StingRays I suppose? You maybe able to tell I know bugger all about slap but love trying to play and find it very difficult to do clean.

If you can find one about, discontinued now, some new old stock do turn up now and again....

twilight zone!!! I'm trying to play Detroit Emeralds Feel the Need....finding it tough. ....bassist Mr Rimson spooky!

Hang, they don't make a BB414F, but they do make a BB614F which is the active version....

I thought Yamaha made BB414F's...fretless BB414 being the model before the BB424? I may have dreamt that but..

hmm, I do like that....a lot.

Bass hardware 1st....but colour is everything else, I mean a bass isn't just for christmas...

This is quite wierd for me as, I like the bass as a lead instrument slapping 'n shaking the walls! ...but found this and thought, this guy can really play....sooooo smooooooth... nice old Fender Jazz by the look of it...JEROME RIMSON so says the vid....I've never heard of him? Sorta plays 'just ever so slightly' behind the beat, if that makes sense? ...and now I reckon you can't have a Jazz without one of those cool hats Ebay? enjoy

More octave runs than you could shake a sh*tty stick at, fantastic fun to play!

cheers guys

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Vintage Guitar Serial Numbers - Yamaha Serial numbers on Yamaha guitars repeat every ten years due to the way they are formed. The first letter indicates the last digit of the year of production. (Their numbering system began with "H" for 1.) The second letter indicates the month. The first two numbers indicate the day of the month. The last three numbers represent order of production on the day the guitar was made. Example: hm02316 = the 316th unit made on June 2 of 1961, 1971, 1981, 1991, or 2001. First Letter Years H 1961, 1971, 1981, 1991, 2001 I 1962, 1972, 1982, 1992, 2002 J 1963, 1973, 1983, 1993, 2003 K 1964, 1974, 1984, 1994, 2004 L 1965, 1975, 1985, 1995, 2005 M 1966, 1976, 1986, 1996, 2006 N 1967, 1977, 1987, 1997, 2007 O 1968, 1978, 1988, 1998 P 1969, 1979, 1989, 1999 Q 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000 Second Letter Month H January I February J March K April L May M June N July O August P September X October Y November Z December A lot of people have written in to say, "Hey! My Yamaha serial number looks nothing like this!" To you folks, we offer the following: Several other serial number configurations used by Yamaha over the years. If you still can't figure it out, please see Yamaha contact info at the bottom of this page. Alternate serial number configurations for Yamaha Classical and Acoustic Guitars Custom Shop, Made in Japan, 1966-1985: 001-1042 in sequence Custom Shop, Made in Japan, 1986-1990: Letter-####, like so: J7012. The letter at the beginning represents the month, so J would be March (see chart above). The number following the letter is the year, in this case 7 for 1987. The last three numbers indicate unit number. 012=12th unit. Custom Shop, Made in Japan, 1991-1996: Letter-letter-###-letter, like so: HP213J. Using the charts, we see that H=1991 and P=September. 213=unit number; and that last letter is an internal code. Custom Shop, Made in Japan, 1997-2003: Letter-letter-###, like so: NK333. Using the chart, N=1997 and K=April. The three numbers are again, unit number. Unit number 333 in this case. Custom Shop, Made in Japan, 2004-: Letter-letter-letter-###-letter, like so: QLY111C. Q=0 and L=5, so 2005. Y=November. 111 is the unit number; and the final letter is an internal code. Yamaha Music Craft, Made in Japan, 1997-1999: Letter-letter-###-letter, like so: ON521J. (That first letter is an "oh" not a zero.) The first letter is the year; O=1998. The second letter is the month; N=July. The three numbers are the unit number; this started over each month at 500, so unit number 21. The final letter is an internal code. Yamaha Music Craft, Made in Japan, 1999: Letter-letter-###, like so: PM222. The first letter is the year; P=1999. Second letter is the month; M=June. The last three numbers are the unit number. During 1999, they starting the count each month at 200 rather than 500. (See previous entry for Yamaha Music Craft for more on the numbering.) Yamaha Music Craft, Made in Japan, 2001-: Letter-letter-letter-###-letter, like so: QIL123A. The first two letters are the year; Q=0 and I=2, so 2002. The third letter is the month; L=May. The three numbers are the unit number; 123. The final letter is an internal code. Tenryu/Wada Factory, Made in Japan, 1946-1968: #####. 12233. Just five digit numbers in sequence. No year of manufacture can be determined. Tenryu/Wada Factory, Made in Japan, 1969-1984: ######. Six numbers, like so: 710502. The first two numbers are the year. In this case 1971. The second two numbers are the month; here, May. The final two numbers are the unit number. Tenryu/Wada Factory, Made in Japan, 1985-1986: ######. Six numbers like so: 860021. The first two numbers are the year; 1986. The last four numbers are the unit number; 21. Kaohsiung Factory, Made in Taiwan, 1971-2001: ########. Eight numbers, like so: 10918111. The first number is the year; 1971. The second and third numbers are the month; 09=September. The fourth and fifth numbers are the day; 18th. The final three numbers are the unit number; 111. Kaohsiung Factory, Made in Taiwan, 2001-: Letter-letter-letter-######. Three letters, six numbers, like so: QIM183112. The first two letters are the year; Q=0 and I=2, so 2002. The third letter is the month. M=June. The first two numbers are the day; 18th. The final four numbers are the unit number; 3112. YMMI (Yamaha Music Manufacturing Indonesia), Made in Indonesia, 1990-1996: ########. Eight numbers, like so: 20918022. The first number is the year; 1992. The second and third numbers are the month; 09=September. The fourth and fifth numbers are the day; 18th. The last three numbers are the unit number; 22. YMMI, Made in Indonesia, 1997-1999: #########. Nine numbers, like so: 803180011. The first number is the year; 1998. The second and third numbers are the month; March (03). The fourth and fifth numbers are the day; 18th. The last four numbers are the unit number; 11. YMMI, Made in Indonesia, 2000-: ##########. Ten numbers, like so: 0002180013. The first two numbers are the year; 00=2000. The third and fourth numbers are the month; 02=February. The fifth and sixth numbers are the day; 18th. The last four numbers are the unit number; 13. YMMI, Made in Indonesia, 2001-: Letter-letter-letter-######, like so: QIM180013. The first two letters are the year; Q=0 and I=2, so 2002. The third letter is the month; June (see chart above.) The first and second numbers (following the 3 letters) are the day; 18th. The final four numbers are the unit number; 13. Alternate serial number configurations for Yamaha Electric, Archtop, and Bass Guitars Made in Japan, 1966-1984. For SG, SX, and BB series. Year Serial Number Sequence 1966 0398-3951 1967 3952-7433 1968 7434-10844 1969 10645-12331 1970 12332-13492 1971 13493-15121 1972 15122-18058 1973 18059-23745 1974 23746-36150 1975 36151-38104 1976 38105-39943 (SG-175, SX-125) 1001-1390 (SG1000) 1001-1126 (SG2000) 1977 001391-002365 (SG1000) 001251-002610 (SG2000) 001001-001270 (BB1200) 001271-001320 (BB2000) 1978 002366-003110 (SG1000) 002611-003760 (SG2000) 001321-002965 (BB1200) 002001-002380 (BB2000) 1979 003111-004445 (SG1000) 003761-005088 (SG2000) 002966-004000 (BB1200) 002381-002920 (BB2000) 1980 (through July) 004446-005329 (SG1000) 005081-005375 (SG2000) 1980 (through December) 013001-024215 1981 025410-059618 1982 059620-096639 1983 096640-126845 1984 (through July) 126846-146196 Made in Japan, 1984-1986: Letter-letter-letter-letter-###. Four letters and a number, like so: LJQH013. (See chart at the top of the page.) The first letter is the year; 1985. The second letter is the month; March. The third and fourth letters are the date; QH=01. The three numbers at the end are the unit number. Made in Japan, 1984-1996: Letter-letter-####. Two letters, four numbers, like so: MI0031. The first number is the year; 1986. The second number is the month; February. The four numbers are the unit number; 31. Made in Japan, 1986-1989: #-letter-#####. 5I04013. The first number is an internal code. The letter is the month; February (see chart). The next two numbers are the date; 4th. The last three numbers are the unit number; 13. There is no indication of year in this configuration--just "sometime between '86 and '89. Made in Japan, 1995-1999: ######. Six numbers, like so: 610101. The first number is the year; 1996. The next two numbers are the month; 10=October. The final three numbers are the unit number; 101. Made in Japan, 1994-1997: #-letter-letter-###. Like so: 7FM123. The first number is the year; 1997. The letter (2nd position) is an internal code. The next letter (3rd position) is the month; in this case M=June (see chart.) The final three numbers are the unit number. Made in Japan, 1997-: #-letter-letter-####, like so: 8FJ0013. The first number is the year; 1998. The letter (2nd position) is an internal code. the letter (3rd position) is the month; March (see chart.) The final four numbers are the unit number; 13. Made in Japan, 1988: Letter-letter-letter-letter-###, like so: SMQI123. The first letter is an internal code. The second letter is the month; June. The third and fourth letters are the date; QI=02. So, June 2nd, 1988. The three numbers are the unit number; 123. Made in Japan, 1989-2002: Letter-letter-letter-letter-###, like so: SKJL321. The first letter is an internal code (both I and S were used). The second letter is the month; K=April. The third letter is an internal code for Japan. The fourth letter is the year; L=1995. The three numbers at the end are the unit number. Made in Japan, 2002-: Letter-letter-letter-###-letter, like so: QJM111E. The first and second letters are the year; QJ=03. The third letter is the month; M=June. The three numbers are the unit number; 111. The final letter is an internal code (could be E, F, I, or S.) Made in Taiwan, 1984-2002: Letter-letter-#####, like so: PH07123. The first letter is the year; P=1999. The second letter is the month; H=January. The first two numbers (07 in this example) are the day; 7th. The final three numbers are the unit number; 123. Made in Taiwan, 2002-: Letter-letter-letter-######, like so: QJM120013. The first two letters are the year; QJ=03. The third letter is the month; M=June. The two numbers that follow are the day; 12th. The final four numbers are the unit number; 0013 (13). Made in Korea and Made in China, 2003-: Letter-letter-letter-####-letter, like so: QKJ0011Y. The first two letters are the year; QK=04 (see chart.) The third letter is the month; J=March. The four numbers that follow are the unit number; (00)11. The last number is an internal code (could be D, R, U, or Y.)

If you post the serial number I can break it out for you, lovely looking bass. ...looks like same controls as an active RBX...overall volume, pan pot, treble and bass? ...I'm fairly sure I was bidding on this bass a week or so back, but there has been two in as many weeks...bit like buses!

funny how things change....a year ago I didn't like Fender's to the point of hate....maybe because everyone has one I like to be different....and I love Yamaha's. ....then I bought '09 MIM P bass, which took a while to love....and now it's an uber keeper....there is something very 'right' about it...it's not a Yamaha, it is a Fender, and I have room for both nowadays. ...although I will always have more room for Yamaha's

[quote name='gjones' post='1031976' date='Nov 21 2010, 10:13 PM']It's an electric guitar with a filter or possibly a wah wah pedal. Of course it could be a stylophone [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkTQsOQLEeU&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkTQsOQLEeU...feature=related[/url] which does sound very like a siamese cat.[/quote] they do now I think of it!

I forgot this peach

well, it's the closest description I can think of...maybe a nasal cat...if I wake my Siamese up he makes this noise ....finally I have found a vid of the song and it seems the guy has a Rick'...not knowing anything about them and never seeing one singing funk before....is this sound normal, or maybe it's fretless or perhaps it has some aftermarket pick-ups, whatever I love the tone

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