krispn

I’m 4”10’!

Because you know it makes sense in your head to have everything hooked up and available to play. Same logic from me is all.

No need for the hostility I’m just asking some questions and offering some tips on the Stomp patch you posted, and suggested could be improved on, I couldn’t see the other parameters so offered my views. Same with the synths and and some of these newer multi fx. I’ve found the pc editors to be really useful on the HX Stomp and on synths, albeit the ones I use are software to begin with. Even if one doesn’t fully understand what’s happening it’s pretty good for connecting a sound to a parameter or synth term. Often times the editors UI can be more intuitive that the pedals themselves due to sub menus and the limitations of size and only having few buttons often having different functions at that. Most of my playing at home is via a daw and plug ins so maybe I just feel more comfortable navigating parameters this was. A laptop screen with everything available just works better for me than a tiny screen with multiple sub menus. It’s not always that obvious when there’s additional pages etc. to access. Of course you’ll do as you like but it surprised me that with all these threads asking for patches, tips and tricks you’d take the hump when advice is offered. If Im on your case it’s simply because I know these pedals hold a huge potential for creative ventures and you’re always so vocal in your passion for the instrument and creative fun with your gear at home. I’m just surprised you’ve not got round to it yet is all.

Tedious as ever!

@Al Krow No need to quote me if you want to politely tell someone to keep their nose out of your business but to be fair you did convince the guy to start a Future Impact thread where he’s put in what appears to be a lot of effort and time to give an overview and insight into the pedal and promote patch sharing.

It’s not thatgthe Stomp is crap at it but it pays to get the patches set up correctly. If you scroll Tron Up patch to the second page of parameters you can set the band pass which adds in much more bottom end. It sounded weedy in the other two settings. If you haven’t got that set up correctly it’ll never sound good even with the parallel clean is my guess.

Be good to hear some clips as that filter funk can sound great in the right context (not the pogues)! . I wasn’t really into the filter sounds on the Stomp but did give them a go. Did you much about with the band pass filters on that tron up setting you posted? I found anything other than lo band pass just sounded weedy and not suitable for bass.

You don’t have to get a Spectracomp before you take a punt on the becos comp - you already own the Spectracomp!! The Noah’s Ark approach to pedal board building (two of everything) must be getting out of hand if you’re forgetting what’s on it 😀 I’ve mentioned before I've no need to make my bass sound like a keyboard. Synth bass isn’t something I generally need in my bands just now. I know my audience and Pogues covers do not sound any better with synth! You appreciate the joy of having creative fun at home with your gear and for me learning keys is an ongoing episode in my musical journey. Being able to mix and edit music at home has given me a good insight into sound(s) and mixing down and love tracks form the band. It’s a bit of a labour of love but it does help when out in the trenches and something plays up - an errant frequency or a dodgy hollow stage. Nice edit to the final paragraph. I was simply pointing out that a synth keyboard would likely have the same controls, possibly more so than the volca but not knowing what your particular synth is capable of or having had a look at the volca on anything other than a superficial level. However if the Symposium of Synth©️ have spoken then I’d take their word over mine. I’ve been busy what with life and work can get in the way of gear🙃

I though you had a bass synth (and keys synth) already? If you can access the pc based interface for the FI for instance it's lots of fun and pretty east to get to grips with - I'm using Logic and a USB keyboard and have been having loads of fun with the various synths available from the vintage mono types synth's to the wonderful Alchemy. Alchemy allow so much variety and sounds from drums to pads to soundscapes! You'll have heard it in some of the audio I've let you hear doing the subby synth bass stuff ages ago.

If you know which position is for which setting

@Al Krow @CameronJ Do you guys know where the BB734/5 has it’s eq points? I was asking earlier in the thread but not sure if it got lost? You guys seem to know yer Yamaha’s!

Experiment with your stomp eq’s and find one set of eq points/settings which fits the bill or mimic some commercially available EQ’s thats way you can effectively try before you buy or just continue to use the Stomp eq’s once you find one that works for your set up. A good starting point might be mimic the Ibanez EQ points and compare them in good old fashioned A/B testing. Sorted!

I’d agree that a passive tone control on an active bass is a really useful feature. The sadowsky was designed by Alex Aguilar so the OBP-1 or the stand alone (and rather chunky) DB924 do a similar thing to the Sadowsky albeit without the DI. I think the eq points are the same too. Not exactly sure what the difference in the Sado/Aguilar units is if any but I’m sure there’s a tweak here or there. Sometimes active basses can have too much control and what I’ve learned from chatting to players who go back to passive basses is that they get tired of tweaking and eventually end up with the classic p or j type bass and the more organic tones within. One good tone will see you through most gigs with a bit of judicious hand placement for good measure.

Result!

You appear to be having another “I haven’t bought anything in three month’s panic”. Take a few deep breaths and sit down. It will pass. Learn to love what you have, the 5 or 6 basses you own should see you thorough most gigs. Truth is no one will really care if you have a MM at the bridge blended at 74%. Know the songs, know your part and trust the groove.

I did similar on my p basses and then used Danish Oil on the bare wood and they feel great. Worth the minimal effort if that's the feel you like.

Cue the inevitable @Al Krow ‘Two of the very best trainers for indie!’ thread.

Get in touch via pm and we’ll sort something out.

@Al Krow sorry I wasn’t clear I meant ‘headroom’ with the preamp on the bass not the amp or possibly a dodgy battery in the bass. I know mine has some anomaly with the A string so wasn’t sure if there might have been something else at play. It does sound like the ‘boost’ from the on board pre is pushing the Mesa preamp but If it’s nailing the sound you’re after win win.

I think having an out board pre in pedal form is a solid option as it can be used on any instrument, no need to route or dig out space on a good passive bass. I’ve use outboard pres for years and I find the ones I’ve used generally more flexible than on board. Many Multifx have the option to add eq to presets so one effectively has all these option available set up for each song with much greater overall flexibility than adding knobs and switches. I’m especially wary of dual concentric knobs where one could might inadvertently change a parameter or three way mid switches which can be easily knocked or misunderstood. Having a clear interface on a pedal just works better for me where I can see at a glance where things are set.

I may be reading this incorrectly but an active circuit shouldn’t be introducing grit or dirt - mine doesn’t when matching those settings listed m. The song does need a dirt pedal to recreate the sound (obviously) but you may find the pushed mids overdriving your input? Is your amp clean to begin with or are your ‘boosted mids’ pushing a dirty amp? It could be a headroom issue or a battery needing replaced? What amp and cabs are you using?

My point about centring the knob is pretty simple - set all controls to their centre detent, put the markers at 12 o’clock/6 o’clock so ‘centre’ is visually straight down. Adjust to you’re preferred position. It’s really that simple. Or you could loosen the grub screw and remove the knobs. Adjust the pot to where you like it and replace the knob with the grub screw positioned at noon as you look down at the knob - you have a visual aid when your eq is where you like it but granted it’s harder to see in the dark! I’ve found that there isn’t really one eq setting for every gig so some nights you might need more bass or more mids depending on the room etc.

It would be a complete waste of money and time to put a £150+ preamp in a bass to them play passively. An alternative question might be who has gone back to passive in spite of the options and why having tried both.

I'm guessing if YOU opened the bass up it should be possible to get a vertical centre for the EQ knobs if YOU wanted to. I've no need or desire to finesse a problem I don't believe exists Or just feel it out! I get the point about accuracy but you're just boosting one frequency not finding a particular frequency to nail the 'poke through the mix'. Just turn the knob until your happy with the volume. It doesn't really need that much engineering or thought but again if the stickers work and you're more comfortable then it's right for you.