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From my experience, basses of that scale never feel, play or sound quite as good as a standard 34" scale (+/- an inch or two). They can certainly be good, very good, but never AS good. 

1 hour ago, Dood said:

 

let's give it a 14mm string spacing, a "coffee table" top, ramp, slap slot, kaoss pad, 27.54v electronics, exotic tonewood combination mixed with plastic and ten control knobs - we might just manage to upset every "bassist" 😂

Sounds similar to both my Conklin and Bee Bass! Built specifically to upset other bass players, naturally!

And make it a 9 string bass... with triplet strings, so a 27 string... double neck. So 54 strings... fretless, headless, neckthru, multiscale... 

A used Spector Euro 5LX would be a good shout... 

Unless you're exceptionally lucky to find a US one for that price! (Did once buy a US 5 for £500...)

I've owed a fair few Euro and US Spectors and as utterly lovely the US ones are, there really is not a huge amount of difference between them and a Euro ones. 

@cetera is your man for all things Spector! 

Would definitely recommend used... New Euros are crazy money these days (US ones require a mortgage). 

Fart Of Rebellion 

(For context, my band's name is Art Of Rebellion!)

@Dad3353 - Some stats from... AI...

Creating a 2-minute realistic video using AI with photos as a guide requires significant energy, but exact figures are hard to pinpoint. However, here's a rough estimate:

- A 5-second AI video generation consumes around 2.9 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of energy, equivalent to running a microwave for over an hour.

- For a 2-minute video, energy consumption would be substantially higher, likely in the range of 100-200 kWh, considering the complexity and processing power required.

- To put this into perspective, training a large language model like GPT-3 uses around 1,300 megawatt hours (MWh) of electricity, equivalent to the annual power consumption of 130 homes in the US ¹ ².

The energy consumption varies greatly depending on factors like:

- *Model Complexity*: More advanced models like Google's Veo 2 or OpenAI's Sora require more energy.

- *Video Resolution*: Higher resolutions (e.g., 4K) demand more processing power.

The average UK household uses around 2,700 kWh of electricity per year. To break it down to a weekly estimate:

- Average weekly energy consumption: 2,700 kWh/year ÷ 52 weeks/year ≈ 52 kWh/week

- Average daily energy consumption: 2,700 kWh/year ÷ 365 days/year ≈ 7.4 kWh/day

Keep in mind that energy usage varies greatly depending on factors like:

- House size and insulation

- Number of occupants

- Appliance efficiency

- Heating and cooling systems

- Lifestyle and habits

For a more accurate estimate, consider tracking your own energy usage or checking your energy bills.

As I say, AI video creation uses huge amount of compute and therefore energy. 

To put it in perspective, to create a 2 minute video using generative AI, with only a number of photos being used as a prompt, uses approximately 200kWh of energy. The average UK household uses 7.4kWh of energy per day, so to do what you want would take the equivalent of nearly a month's worth of energy consumption for the average household. 

200kWh will also do my Ford Capri 3 full charges, that'd power me for over 900 miles. 

So, what you are asking is hugely energy intensive and will never be free.

People really don't realise how incredibly energy intensive and damaging the use of AI is, many just assume its this new magic thing with no downside. The carbon emissions produced in just the exercise you're wanting to do is huge. 

I don't think there are any... most 'free' ones are limited to 6-10 seconds due to how ridiculously compute intensive it is to create an AI video from images. I'd also raise the question (my personal opinion) of the point of doing so? Why have your original music that YOU created superceded in people's memory by a video AI created? Don't diminish your work by tarnishing it with AI. 

5 hours ago, Jean-Luc Pickguard said:

My first bass amp was made by Ohm and was bought in about 1983 secondhand from ABC music along with a Laney 1x15" cab.

 

I had a wave of nostalgia seeing a similar amp for sale on the cash converters website, however this one has a built-in compressor whereas I am certain that mine inexplicably had a built-in flanger instead of the compressor. I cannot remember the model number of the amp I owned, however I remember it looking very much like the GA140 in the listing.

 

Does anyone else remember these amps? Was there a version with a flanger or am I misremembering?

 

I had the exact same head about 23/23 years ago. Did a fine job. 

Not to derail... but these are the two I had some years ago. Incredible things. If this had 24 frets, I'd be extremely tempted indeed!

Sander makes excellent basses... I had two De Gier Evolution 6ers at one point, fantastic build quality. 

3 hours ago, BigRedX said:

 

Your OP seemed to question why this rig was so cheap, and I was pointing out that it's collection only and something this big and heavy has a VERY limited market with the current way bass amplification is going.

There was no question in my OP, but as said, you're certainly not wrong about it being collection only and heavy! Dem fings be the troof! Still, it is a hell of a but of kit for £400 cash collected... can't deny that. 

Fantastic basses these... they punch well above their weight. If this was a 6 string I'd have bought it already especially considering I'm about 10 miles from you!

Hipshot hardware (even the knobs!), active Bartolini pickups and preamp, through neck, all for a shade north of £300? Great deal, great bass. 

7 hours ago, BigRedX said:

Not withstanding the fact that I haven't worn trousers with enough surplus material to "flap" for over 45 years now, I think had I ever been in a band that required me to play at volumes that produced a noticeable shift of air from my rig I'd be even deafer than I am now!

 

I've owned a big rig in the past, although it was made out of smaller component parts than the example for sale, but each of the three individual items was still a two person lift for ease of moving, and without a road crew there is no way I would contemplate having one again. Then again if I was in a band successful enough to be able to employ a road crew I'd be playing places where even a big rig would be an irrelevance. From experience something like the rig for sale needs to be running close to max volume to get the benefit of the power amp valves and therefore is too big for most small venues, and due to the poor dispersion characteristics of the cab in bigger venues will only work as a personal monitor so long as you are stood directly in front of it. Your band mates will still need to have your bass in their foldback and you'll find that the moment you are not stood directly in front of it you'll get more from the foldback than you do from your rig. And that's if you're not using IEMs. Add to the fact that very few PAs will mic up bass cabs of any size and, if they did, a close mic on one driver is not the same sound as the full cab from a couple of feet away, so what your audience hear will have little to do with the rig behind you. 

 

I'm now a Helix user and I only use amp and cab models as a special effect, as IMO most of the time they make my bass sound worse, which re-enforces what I have thought for a long time is that instrument amplification for bass guitar is the weak link in the signal chain. These days I straight into the PA from the Helix and it sounds great both on stage and FoH. I have plenty of dirt when I need it but I can also sound super clean if I need that too. Most of the time I'm somewhere in between these too extremes.

 

Finally if you need "The way they pulse the air, the harmonics, the bloom and the trouser flapping." for the right atmosphere, then I would suggest that the songs you are playing are not up to scratch.

Each to their own pal. You're not right and you're not wrong. You do you, I'll do me and the other guy can do him. All the above is great for you. I like a big rig so humbug to your response! 😜

Below is a headless, fretless, bodyless and neckless bass I made, you're welcome to it.

Me 😆

I do love a big, full fat, monster of a valve rig... I'm down that way in Jan, have made a bit of low offer which they've accepted on the basis of no one else buying it in the meantime which suits me fine. 

13 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

Because it's big, heavy, out of date and collection only.

It is big, it is heavy, it is collection only. Out of date - I disagree. These genuinely are excellent amps. Having owned a Mesa Strategy Eight:88, an Ashdown CTM300, a Marshall VBA400, an Orange AD200B, a Trace Elliot V6 and a Laney Nexus Tube, I can confirm that the latter holds up to the best of these valve behemoths. It is an underrated amp. £500 for the full rig is (if you have the spine for it) excellent bang for buck.

Any message that is clearly generic ("please show me your product") is always a massive red flag. 

This is a cheap CHEAP brute... essentially a UK made Mesa Boogie Strategy Eight:88 for pennies on the pound. 

https://ebay.us/m/ucAP4L

To my eyes its not the right bridge, headstock shape, logo positioning or logo style to be a 70's Ibanez. I'd guess its a Westfield or similar with a transfer put on the headstock and a MIJ back plate added. Either way, £60 ain't much dosh! 

Lovely bass, right up my street in terms of spec. I find ramps ruin the look of a finely crafted bass such as this - any chance of a photo without the ramp? (I'm not a buyer - I have too many basses, but purely for my viewing pleasure I'd like to see it without the ramp!)

59 minutes ago, deepbass5 said:

"hey gramps give us a tune on your banana"

We all know you've had that shouted at you before for very 'different' reasons... 

I've always really fancied one of these... but, it has one string too few for me! If a 6er (or 7er!) ever crops up at a not unrealistic price, I'd be very interested. 

Here's a slightly prophetic one I found at my parents the other day...

A 16yr old me wearing a T-Shirt that says 'Reuben' on it. 22 years later we now have a 2yr old son called Reuben! 

I once found a few dozen very intimate personal photographs in the front pocket of a gig bag that came with a Stagg Strat I'd bought locally for £20... Definitely saw more than I'd bargained for! Promptly returned the photos to the person without thumbing through the entire stash!