Beedster

Far more drama here

Wasn't meant to be either really, but c'est la vie. I have to agree with Luke's point above that the description Alex has provided here today was way more useful to me than the marketing email I received, and I suspect the origins of this thread would have been slightly more constructive had the possibilities of the box been better outlined

I think much better without! A friend who works in A&E said that first lockdown they expected uplift in COVID patients, instead they saw uplift in DIY patients. Some of them arrive looking like they’ve been in a road accident apparently. Combined use of ladder and power tool appears to be an especially effective formula

We can start again Luke?

I can’t look at that

Where’s the romance

You doubt the data Dave? Go visit a COVID ward, speak to doctors and nurses who do the caring and put their lives at risk every day, and explain to them that it’s Ok, you’re in a band and you need to rehearse. And go to the gym for whatever reason. But the supermarkets are at mostly at fault, cos while you need to play and exercise, people don’t need food.

The thing is that so many people justify what they do - rehearsing - and criticise others - running. Reality? They’re all equally risky to you and others. Sorry

How do you know your singer doesn’t have the virus?

Absolutely, but singers push out more air, and therefore more droplets and molecules, and they’re indoors

I do quite a lot of work in sport, two early studies of Covid transmission suggested up to 10m dispersion for a runner and up to 20m for a cyclist. OK, these athletes are moving so they leave a wake of moving air behind them that makes the problem worse, But a key factor is the intensity of breathing, high oxygen demand produces higher inhalation and expiration rates and volumes. Both gyms and studios with singers are dangerous as the result, the latter more so because singing requires high oxygen demand plus higher rate of expiration than even athletes.

The funny thing is that all the various representative bodies produce different data, those promoting pubs say it's the gyms, gyms say it's the nail salons, nail salons say it's the supermarkets, supermarkets say its the pubs I guess I wish we could all hold off a few more months until the worst passes, because I don't think we're there yet.

Good, it appears that we should live and let live then.

Not sure what you're saying really Ped?

Well there we go. Internet forum. Freedom of speech within the rules.

We'll have to agree to disagree I'm afraid Dave, it's the air that's the main issue, not touching equipment. Stay well

So OTT opinion is on the internet is now problem? You can kiss your forum goodbye if that's the case Ped And yes, perhaps it was OTT, but because I read Alex's response in the context of previous history as a customer. C'est la vie. As I said, can't have been that bad as plenty of mods have been watching this all day, so you were clearly happy that forum rules were being observed?

Confined space with a singer is not safe, two main issue are dispersion (high with a singer) and length of exposure (high with a rehearsal) her gloves might help her, they won't help you. Sorry

This was the post in question Ped, let's have your analysis of the OTTness please

Go on then, explain why it was OTT?

Or a gym, because whilst singers chuck out loads of potentially infected air into a confined space, no-one has ever done that in a gym

Apologies Dave, I was being a facetious, given the rate of infection at present, and given that no-one knows their own immunity, I'd not be taking any risks, and rehearsals are a risk. We live at the top of a road, no joke, the infection appears to be making its way up the street at present. Even the most conservative scientists are saying there will be a massive explosion of it over Xmas. As a family, we're staying very locked down.