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Brilliant, its great that you do those songs. I always fancy doing The Letter but have never been able to convince a band to do it. I dismissed Outside a bit when I heard it years ago I must admit. I shall definately revisit that asap.

Was just listening to this album today and thought I'd put something on here as it's an integral part of my Bass playing influences. I can see it's been mentioned before, but you usually get a discussion about how it's divisive so I thought I'd put my two penneth in. When the album came out, I was a pure 'metaller'. If it wasn't 'eavy', I didn't like it. I was a teenager then, and had already been playing bass for a year or so in a rap-metal band (I know). I bought Earthling 'blind', having a fleeting admiration of Bowie, mainly due my older sister buying the Dancing in the Street single years earlier. (I know). The thing that struck me about the album right away was the bass playing of Gail Ann Dorsey. I appreciated the magnificent tone, and the concise, accurate yet still impressively written basslines, even though I didn't realise at the time this is what I was hearing, if you get me. The songs are amazing and yes, the album probably did sound dated for a while, but in my opinion, it has been long enough for the 90s drum and bass elements to now sound 'vintage' to younger ears and would be well worth a listen. It's easy to see why it's not everyone's cup of tea but It's the album that got me to listen to bass players, appreciate not over playing, and get the importance of a good balance between instruments/vocals, not to mention getting me to explore Bowie further, which obviously opened a pot of gold.

I learned about mirroring too and it really opens your eyes to peoples intentions. My experience is that when you point this out to people in Britain though is they take it very defensively. Things in Britain you can talk about: Weather, football, immigration. Things in Britain you shouldn't talk about: Feelings, death, other peoples intentions. The rumours are true.

I think Youtube among others has created a lot of insta-musicians. Impressing themselves in their bedrooms (oo-er) but quickly finding out that playing in an actual band involves a lot more than just hearing how to do it. This means there are a ton of poor quality bands around and either really good musicianship, or some great stage presence/gimmicks can get your head above the rest. I have mostly played original stuff for most of my playing life, and in that scenario you really need both to do anything other than what is essentially playing for friends imo (though its hard to believe, looking at a lot of up and coming 'professional' bands).

If the shop in question is the one I think it is, I was just going to add that I have been considering going for a bit and have decided against it due to several bad experience internet posts and anecdotes. They are dotted around the net on various different platforms, and although I wouldn't usually 'cut my nose off' as some have put it here, what worries me is that the reviews are all talking about the same specific issues, despite being in totally different places, from different times, and are fairly well spread out chronologically. This tells me that the problems are consistent, long standing and most importantly, not learned from after bad feedback. Interestingly, the pattern also includes a bit of smarm following each problem, with no changing of attitude, which is even worse. I would say this is a good reason to raise grievances like this. Everyone has an off day, and maybe writing off a place due to one bad experience is rash, but a consistent lack of consideration for customers walking in the door is inviting people to go elsewhere, and how else will consistent bad practices be challenged? It won't happen by just individually moaning a bit AFTER handing over your money, (that's advocating bad practice), but shared experiences being exposed on forums like this. A lot of people here probably have a good idea of the shop that's being talked about..which kind of highlights how much of a problem there is. Good on you for bringing it up AND challenging it I say.

Selective reading. It's the old internet adage at work. Never let the facts get in the way of an internet 'like'.

Ah cheers. Food for thought there. On GAK at the moment, you can pre-oder a Yamaha BB734a for about £630.. That made me twitch a bit but I'm waiting for some overtime to come through at the end of the month so im holding my nerve, plus its ordering from GAK which can be...eventful. Its also very tempting to just order a Sire based on Feedback. I'd get the Natural Ash P7. 150 for that Cort sounds like a bit of a steal. Im seduced by the wood grain and clear scratch plate, but again reviews are very good. I'm using one of the new Rockbasses at the moment. Im trying to force myself to love it but can't, but am making a little headway and am currently on 'quite like it' so its taking the heat off. Just have to avoid alcohol and arguments with the wife..the two things that make me click 'add to basket' quickest.

Think we spoke about it in another thread but the BB734a has gone back to the top of my list now. Looks to be good bang for buck and a no brainer if you want a PJ. I'm tempted by a couple of cheaper basses, the Cort GB74 and the now obligatory Sires, but I think one of these will be a bit later on, and to supplement the BB as a practice/back up bass. I really want a keeper now after a lifetime of 'average' basses. That's the loose plan anyway.

Amazing lowdown, thanks very much for that. I think you've persuaded me to at least definitely try one out before ordering anyway..which is clearly a good thing. I think one of my concerns seems like it's founded. It's that in America, this bass is £100-150 cheaper and maybe that is where it should be here. I'm considering a Maruszczyk Jake or something like it and it sounds like it might be more sensible to put this money towards one of those. I don't have a 'main' bass as such, just a couple of middling ones and this doesn't sound like it would stand too far above the others. I know what you mean about new strings, I'm the same. I would say though that with this your starting point should be "This sounds great", and then gets even better the more the strings get their 'character'. It really sounds like the bass would be ideal for someone who wants the particular sound it gives, or is ok with a few compromises to 'look the part'. Good to hear it looks as good as you were expecting and you didn't find any wet paint on the 'fake inlays' ha ha. Thanks very much for the write up again. I'm still keen on it, but maybe in an, admiring across the room, sort of way for now. My bank manager thanks you. I'll be interested to hear how this develops.

"I get the MEANEST BASS TONE. You won't BELIEVE how I did it".

Ooh. There are a few of us with our eye on these. Can I ask, did you buy it blind or try it first? Also, can you get a good P bass type tone out of it? It sounds great for getting a bit of poke, but havent heard much purely from the neck pick up on videos etc as far as I can tell. I'm weighing up around about the same type of decision. Lakland/Sandberg/US Fender/YamahaBB....or this. As ive said a few times on this thread, this one looks the nicest to me. Just a bit of a gamble.

Hello neighbour. I'm 'roight' near you in Suffolk (near Bury St Eds). I too have a ridiculous accent, so share in the pain a bit. Welcome, I'm quite new here myself and have quickly burnt my retinas by compulsively checking the classified ads and discussing what basses to get next, 24/7. It's a great community.

I wonder if they did in fact get a fake somehow. You can't mistake blocks for paint can you? It looks better and better with each video. Really punchy sound. And we know it can handle mellow too, by that other guys vids.

I use one almost exclusively due to the music my two bands play. I found eventually that less is more. I used to use the Little Big Muff Pi and actually found it easier to get a good tone than with the Bass Big Muff I have now. I keep thinking about going back, but the ability to blend with the clean signal on the bass muff stops me. That is a great feature. I also am considering the Deluxe Bass Muff. There's one on here for £65 at the mo which is great value, just wrong timing cash flow wise. Boosting the mids is essential (for me), and the loss of the lower frequencies don't bother me. I usually boost these back via the amp. It should be said that I go for the 'bass as rhythm guitar' approach in one of my bands, which isn't every bass players cup of tea and sounds better for that band with boosted mids and treble. I would say that a Big Muff is far more versatile than people think. If you get the tone right, throaty, full and powerful, it really can wow people.

Oh so you've actually pulled the trigger? I shall be waiting with baited breath on this one. I predict greatness tbh.

That is a possibility. If you look at Schecter feedback, most people say that build and quality control are well above the price point, in fact they are famous for it. That review does go against the grain, though the other one is a bit lukewarm too. Puts the value much lower than it costs. Bearing in mind it's £100 more expensive still over here compared to the states does make me think that I'd be better off seeing one before buying blind.

Yeah it's the first actual bad review I could find, and it reeks of sour grapes for some reason.

FYI an older, regular Model T has appeared on Ebay. Ash, maple neck..looks quite nice. It's in Birmingham which is too far for me but might be worth a look to get an idea of quality etc. I wouldn't have thought It'll go for too much. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schecter-Model-T-Bass-Guitar/112846248469?hash=item1a46291a15

Quite a lot of love for the Model T session on a recent thread on here. This popped up today. Not the session, but an earlier, more basic model. Thought it might be a decent alternative for someone wanting to check out the Schecters. Bit far for me unfortunately, as is in Birmingham. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schecter-Model-T-Bass-Guitar/112846248469?hash=item1a46291a15

ha ha, I wish. Not out of the realms of possibility either. Quite a thriving country and western scene 'round these parts.

Just to cool you guys down a bit, here's the bass equivalent of a cold shower courtesy of a couple of Amazon reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schecter-2848-Model-T-Session-ANS/dp/B00SGSI1RC#customerReviews

I know. The guy said it happens all the time after the nurse went. He was having a laugh about it.

Reminds me of a thing that happened the other day. My Dad was in hospital and the guy next door got wheeled back from an operation where a man was waiting for him. Deadly quiet in the ward with several visitors sitting around. The recovery nurse says to the guy "It went well..I take it you're Dad" "No. I'm partner". Everyone in the ward made a face like they just stepped on Lego, and the nurse goes bright red and continued to dig a massive hole for herself for ages. As you say, a moments thought would have gone a long way here.

Of the few local millionaires I've met, most of them looked really scruffy actually. In their free time at least. If you've got it I suppose you don't feel the need to show it, or something. It is annoying. The satisfaction of changing peoples opinions of you right quick is quite mouth watering though. And ships captain outfits are only ever ok if you're talking the Starship Enterprise in my book.