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Sorry if this has been featured on here before, but Ive scoured what I can and get such conflicting information across loads of sites. Ive got my eye on a Schecter Model T session. I'm in love with the look of it, and although I would never usually buy a bass without trying it, the amount I like it, plus reviews and anecdotal comments make me think its worth the risk (with the option of a return). Anyway, the problem is that I almost exclusively use a Big Muff Bass at the moment. I like the sound of fuzz bass, my bands are happy with the sound, so I don't really want to mess about with the formula too much. The Model T is active only, and I didnt realise there was a problem with active/fuzz pedals until I stumbles upon the issue on line. I havent had an active bass since I started playing so wasnt something I even considered. What are peoples experiences here? I don't mind so much about tone changes etc, but I worry more about level drop off and feedback etc. One option is getting a deluxe big muff that has an extra feature for dealing with active but it seems a lot to go through, hassle and expense wise, to try a bass I have no guarantee of liking at the end of the day. It might be mute as next weekend I'm going to try out a few 2nd choice alternatives including the Yamaha BB range, but I'd like to know if dismissing the Model T just purely down to it being active is an error really. GAS TROUBLE! Cheers in advance!

I have hit a bit of a snag. I was geared up for the Model-T session, but after a bit of research, was dissapointed to find that active basses don't work ideally with fuzz pedals. I haven't owned an active bass for about 20 years and had no idea this was the case. I have the option of trying the bass out, and changing pedal to perhaps a bass big muff deluxe, which facilitates a higher signal, but that's a lot of potential messing about for something I can't try first. I almost exclusively use a Big Muff for both my bands so it's a big consideration I have to make. Totally gutted as am literally in love with the Model T, to look at at least.

Hello. Check out 'Scotts Bass Lessons' on Youtube. He has a paid for academy, but there are plenty of free lessons also from complete beginner to quite advanced. When I started, I had a year on my own working out my favorite songs on bass, then started lessons after that. On one hand I picked up bad habits, but on the other, working out stuff by ear early on can help you loads later on imo. Depends if you're concerned about having 'correct' technique or not I guess. I personally watched loads of Steve Harris, Lemmy John Deacon footage at the age of 13 onwards, followed by Cliff Burton later, which helped me get into bass big time, so I would definitely recommend watching and learning from your bass heroes and getting inspired that way. Good luck!! Keep us posted.

Cheers! Thats what I thought. It's the Tesco value toilet paper of pedal boards basically ha ha. Its twice as big as I need it now but im probably going to halve it to make 2 smaller ones and give the other to our guitarist.

Hi! I'm thinking about sawing this in half as It's too big for my needs these days, and this prompted me to look to see if I still had any in progress photos, and found a few. Basically, I am totally rubbish at doing things with drills, saws, or anything else that requires any sort of co-ordination (not including Bass-depending on who you ask). I found this to be such as easy project, that I'm amazed I don't see more around. I'm sure there are several on here that are way better than mine but I was hoping that this might inspire someone to have a go that is like me..the sort of person that says..'that will do' a lot! This will be very basic to most people here, but it's just to show that anyone can have a go at stuff really. Did this ages ago and the pictures aren't exactly step by step, but hopefully you can see what I did. Here's a very rough plan : 1) Got the wood and cut to size. On mine, I used four strips of wood cut to the length I thought I wanted, then measured and cut two smaller pieces as the side supports. 2) Sanded and primed the wood. 3) Screwed it all together. I believe I used wood glue first. (see the 2nd pic for how it fits together, pretty self explanatory). 4) 'Paint it Black'. Choose an appropriate song to listen to while completing this step. 5) Screwed on finishing touches such as cast iron carrying handles, and two little rubber feet at the rear (as you're looking at it). 6) Got some Velcro tape and stuck strips across. 7) Found a guard dog to protect the finished product. Sorry there are not more detailed steps. I think I originally saw something similar on Pinterest and took my inspiration from that, so I'm sure if you need more detailed instructions, or plans for something more ambitious, they can be easily found on there. I believe the whole thing cost around £15. Basically save the pedaltrain money for a pedal or two. Hope this helps someone decide to have a go.

Excellent, thanks for the feedback. One of my concerns would be it being too pokey, but I'm a 1 sound kind of guy usually (at least live) so once its punched in either with the bass or amp, that'll do me. I read about the neck somewhere else actually so I think it comes as a suprise to others too. I had one of the Modern Player Dimensions once and it sounds like it had a similar sized neck, which is a good thing as that suited me very well. Thanks again. Since last night my Jeremy Vine swingometer is about 80% toward the Model T.

Yes definitely. I've certainly had 'Fenderitis' since deciding to start looking at getting one a couple of months ago. I've looked at Laklands, G&L and others, which arguably could be 'better', and at least as expensive. This Schecter is the first thing I've looked at that has made me seriously consider a U-turn, and I haven't even touched one yet, which shows how much I like how it looks at least. If I was spontaneous and went by gut instinct, I'd be ok. Unfortunately I usually obsess for ages over what crisps to get from the petrol station.

I really just need someone to give me a little nudge and I can see myself going for the Model T. They are getting towards the price of a decent used Precision, which gives me pause, but truthfully, I prefer the looks of the Schecter, and if it's almost as versatile as a P, that would probably do me. If it was passive, or had the option, I would also be a bit more trigger happy on it probably. As I just said to Moose, I'm in the middle of saving for a Am Pro Precision, so it's not a light decision to take, particularly as there is no way of getting to try one out easily. Would be a gamble. And if you like to gamble, I tell you, I'm NOT your man (usually).

Thanks for the reply. The one I'm looking at is the active one. The session series are ash, with active EMGs: https://www.gak.co.uk/en/schecter-model-t-session-bass/110644?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2Y_UBRCGARIsALglqQ1RUlioiY1oQi454qviFHlx52KwkiY3HbITL-Mwl-dzqy20PPHbYGYaAgl8EALw_wcB It has really got me in a massive quandary as I am exactly in the middle of saving for the US Pro Precision (£1500), but I LOVE the look of the Schecter. A bass hasn't grabbed me visually like that for a long time, and the more I look into it, the more 'wow' I get. I like how it sounds on Youtube videos, and they seem to get almost universal praise. I've had a look and there is nowhere remotely round here to try one out. It's around £700, and I cant help thinking that I could buy this and a Sire Marcus Miller as a back up plus a whole load of beer for the price of just the Fender. Worst case of GAS I've ever had.

I still have a Model T - and, as coincidence would have it, I bought it from Westside. At the time, I was considering pulling the trigger on a Fender but wasn't sure I could spare the readies for a US Std P. The Model T knocked the Fender Mex Std into a cocked hat, and didn't set me back very much more. If you can get on with the idea of a P-J bass with a Jazz-like neck then I'd heartily recommend trying one. (Sounds great through an Ashdown valve amp!) I may be raising this thread from the dead but I'm looking at the model T session as a cheaper alternative to a Fender Am pro. Realise you might not have that model but was curious as to what you feel about it a few months on. Happy or wish you saved up for the Fender? Cheers.

Cheers, the first I tried was new (so the shop claimed though Im sceptical, and the 2nd was 2003 ish. Makes sense that it would be early ones and I imagine they use minimal laquer in Mexico too.

There are a lot of isolated bass tracks on Youtube that prove this well. The amount of comments talking about the playing being 'sloppy' or 'weak' is amazing. No consideration of the things you listed. Does it sound right in the mix? If yes, there is no problem with tone or anything else.

Yes thats it. Layered wood (if thats the right term) can look amazing and implies quality (to me) so I can see how the skunk stripe could fit into that bracket. I'm looking at getting an American Pro, if I can justify the cost to myself. Graphite reinforcement and no stripe. Or may keep an eye out for a US standard on here. I've considered other makes, particuarly Lakland but I really feel that if I don't get a keeper of a real Fender P at some point in my life, I'll never be satisfied. Its all John Deacon's fault.

I took the first back and obviously didnt buy the 2nd. The guy selling the 2nd one thought I was crackers, though I thought there was evidence that his had been fixed to some extent before. he wasnt too impressed with my pointing out of that. Its psycological as much as anything as the feeling was very subtle, but I just can't imagine playing with any sort of crack in the neck. Body dings and scapes, I actually like (if they are genuine and not silly 'shabby chic' ageing). No offense road wear lovers. 😉

I get what you mean. I did think they looked great. I have to have a silky neck. ..and same goes for my basses.

Yes same here. There has to be a reason but I can't think what.

I did wonder that myself. My house is an old beamed place with no central heating so is not a place for climate sensitive wood, or people for that matter.

Yes, I sold mine to a friend and it was still going strong at least 3 or 4 years ago. Different topic I suppose and I imagine it has been talked about, but I wonder if stuff was generally made better in those days. I couldn't imagine getting a practice amp that would last 20 years today without spending a whole lot of money. That could very well just be my, grumpy old man attitude though I guess.

I remember thinking that these particular one's looked better than the budget stuff you could get in the shop. I think the bass looks good now. I'd certainly go for a real precision of that colour. White with matching headstock would be great. In hindsight I never considered how well they would play, which I guess not many of us did when starting.

My first stuff would have been 1992 or 93 or so. Encore Bass, new from a shop I think was just under £100. You got a good deal there I think. 99p for 10 Lambert and Butler, and around £1 a pint..glory days. Just made me think my old gear. I got a Laney Linebacker a few years later, the 120B. Must have been £150 or something I think. That was a good amp, and still look quite popular. At the time I hated it, but was always thinking about the 'next, better one'.

Wow. The 'Rythmaster' in the flesh. I think it's ok to look at actually. You could totally imagine Kirk Hammet going for that, not that it's a massive endorsement.

These look good!

Professional turd polisher, I think the official job title is.

I looked this up once. I think IHiwatt in the early days and Acoustic through the later 70s and 80s.

There are always exceptions. I was always particuarly appreciative of Emma Buntons musical talent.