dave_bass5

Ah cool. Thanks for that.

The TP-Link arrived today and it was quite painless setting it up. It looks cool and will fit in the Gator case with the XR18. I ‘think’ im all ready to go live with the band in two weeks time (bloody Bass player decided to go on holiday). Just wondering what firmware you guys are on. I was looking on Behringer’s website and they have 1.18, but mine is 1.19. Obviously no need to update, but i was surprised that 1.19 isnt there.

Cheers guys. God to know im on the right path. As much as i quite fancy that GL, i think I’ll stick with a brand i know. There are a few posts about connection issues (which im sure all brands suffer from occasionally), but Ive always liked the Tp-link interface, and i like that i can power it with a USB cable. I’ll get it ordered tomorrow.

Ok, so now i need to get a wifi router. I was going to use my old Nighthawk, but it seems that its not used because its broken (bloody kids). Plenty of cheap ones on Amazon, but i quite like the idea of a small one that wotn take up much room in the gig bag. I dont intend to spend more than £50. I like the look of this one. Anyone have any thoughts? Am i better off with a full sized one? We are only playing small stages and the router will be a few foot from me most of the time. Wont be using it for anything else. https://www.amazon.co.uk/GL-iNet-GL-SFT1200-Wireless-Pocket-Sized-Repeater-White/dp/B09N72FMH5/ref=pd_lpo_sa_sccl_2/260-8215407-4110546?pd_rd_w=ZUEnj&content-id=amzn1.sym.38c75885-a11b-44e0-bdcc-565322173826&pf_rd_p=38c75885-a11b-44e0-bdcc-565322173826&pf_rd_r=WEWSWFTA90QB1C8C5QYG&pd_rd_wg=Kn3Vp&pd_rd_r=381f002f-1d13-48d7-99a2-596520e5074c&pd_rd_i=B09N72FMH5&psc=1 Also quite like the look of the TP-Link AC750. Other wise i was thinking for a TP-Link Archer C50, which i have had in the past.

Sorry, yes, that was a typo. It uses the standard private address range of 192.168.1.xxx

Mixing station reports it as being 192.169.1.10.

yeah. The ipads just seem to work without all that nonsense……normally 😁. At least with the desktop version i could get in to the network panel and see whats going on. Anyway, ive now got Mixing station all set up, and hopefully just needs a few tweaks once the band start playing through it.

It’s strange as the iPad one boots to a connect screen (with the demo bits at the bottom), and dorsnt go any further. The desktop one boots straight in to a mixer window with all the features displayed.

Just a quick update. Still no go with the ipad app, but i downloaded the Mac version direct from Behringer. Only way i could get it working was with a LAN cable. I like that app, i do hope Behringer are going to sort this app out for newer devices.

Although im not an IT guy, im pretty technical minded. I understand what you are saying (I mentioned Demo mode purely to show the app hasn't frozen), but if all my devices are connecting to it, Mixing station see’s it automatically on various devices, im not sure what else i can do. You’re right, the app doesn't see anything on the network. I have had X-Air quit a few times even on the old ipad so not too bothered, i was just interested to see what i can do with it.

Yeah, but t is strange. The iPad is an Air v1. iOS is 12.5.7 so very old. Maybe too old? I could sort of understand if it refused to connect, but it’s not even trying. It’s like it’s not working at all until I chose the demo mode. And result on everything, new and old. I do like Mixing Station, it will work perfectly and I’m almost all set up with it, but it doesn’t seem as user friendly so been a bit overwhelming.

At home I’m just using the built in one. I will be using an external one with the band. It seems the issue is only related to Xair. Even with it on my MacBook (which is the phone app) I get the same (Non) result. All my devices can see the XR18 fine, Mixing station works on all of them without any issues.

Thanks. Yeah, I have a MacBook but so far not used it for this. As I’ll need to use the iPad at gigs I thought it easier to get to know that app. I can’t actually find the X Air on the App Store for Mac. Maybe I need to look again. I do have an old iPad that seemed ok with the xair app until I got the mixer. Even though I’m connected to its wifi the app doesn’t even bother to register that it’s there. Won’t connect at all. Yep, it’s just the FX side that’s causing issues now. I’ve figured out the feedback thing and can now get to almost were I want to be with it all, but still getting stuck on a few things. I can’t seem to find how to use the FX sends post fader, so that the FX is EQ’ed to match the sends. I’m using a delay and the delay tone is not getting the EQ. Probably a simple setting that’s deeply buried. Thats a good idea about practising with the settings after the event. Cheers for that.

Thanks. So fat I’m not. It’s being a nightmare with Mixing station. At first I thought it was fine. Getting sounds out etc was easy, but I was up till very late trying to get the FX sends and returns working, and also getting Links working for my keys.

The XR18 just turned up. Big grin on my face when I saw how compact it is. Can’t wait to stay up all night figuring it out 😂.

Thanks. As i said, Mixing station (which ill use as i cant use the Behringer app on my main iPad’s) does have a mode where each of the band members are locked in to just the monitor bus. When they start the app they can start in restricted mode and choose what bus to control. It’s a much simplified layout as well which will work for them. I still think it’s a bad idea letting some of them loose with it, but it takes the pressure off me, especially for the IEM users. The drummer has said he wont use IEM’s but he has a decent monitor, and its more for hearing the keyboards. I am looking forward to using it with the band. i can now ditch my own mixer system, and my singers can now benefit from my ambient mic set up. Ive got 14 channels set up already so im glad i went for the 18 and not the 16.

Thanks. Ive since found out the Mixing Station actually has modes that allow people to run the app with only the Send bus showing. It’s pretty cool as each person chooses which bus they want when starting the app, and all they can really do is adjust the sends on that bus. Less room for mistakes.

Ive got a question (many really, lets start with an easy one). Im trying to figure out the best strategy as far as all band members having access to the XR18. Not a good idea to give full access obviously. What do you guys do? Im thinking of making a full layout for me, copying it to the phone, and creating a custom layout that has more minimal control. for example, take off the Master fader, and only have one send, which will be relevant to the person i give it to. That way it keeps their screen clearer, and means they wont click on the wrong Aux and much someone else's mix up. Im not sure i can disable or take off the main faders. Does this seem feasible and possible with Mixing Station?

It’s not something i was too bothered with, as what i do now with a small digital recorder has been working well for years, but the thought that i can almost re mix a gig with just a little more effort is quite appealing. The drums normally come put quite loud on the recording anyway, but with a bit more though (like Jack said, put it closer to the kit) and running the recoding through something like Spectralayers to separate out the drums from everything else should produce much better end results. I guess id uses my iPad Pro at gig for this. Ive been looking fro a reason to get Logic on ipad. Would probably start off with rehearsals and use my MacBook pro though.

Thanks., ive yet to receive my XR18, but i see you can set the phones (Monitor) out to get its feed from anywhere. I have a mixer template already set up that directs Aux 5/6 to the phones. So i can use this in the same way as the Aux outs, but with just my usual TSR to XLR cable. It does take two Aux’s, which leaves the band with only 4. Still, i brought it so i can do what i want lol. Ive always recorded gigs and rehearsals, always from the stage, with but as you say, this opens up a whole new level of options. I do plan on using the multitrack out in to my iPad or MacBook at some point. Logic will handle each track as a separate track so i can mix later. Like you it will probably be minus the drums so I’ll do as you do, still use my digital recorder on stage in front of the drums. Obviously going to be a lot of spill but having the ability to mix in directly recorded instrument's sounds really cool.

Well yes, but thats adding more stuff which was what i was trying to avoid. Id be more inclined to use adapters if and when necessary.

Thanks. Yeah, i can see the potential. its just a shame that although it will work really well, its still overkill for my band. I am looking forward to recording some gigs and rehearsals through it, straight to Logic.

Thanks a again for the reply. That all makes sense, especially the disservice’s between the two. Although i have gone for the XR18 (already on its way from Thomann's) i still think the M18 is the better of the two as far as set up and usability. As you say, the router is not going to need help, and the app seems really good. Between the two it seemed the M18 won on not needing an external router, but wound need more adapters for the Aux outs. It’s easier and cheaper for me to use the many unused XLR’s that we have in the gig bag. Same with the non XLR inputs. Not the end of the world that they arent XLR, but we don’t have many jack to jacks spare. As for the app. Im finding Mixing Station to be very comprehensive, but a nightmare to set up. It seemed easy enough for the very basic stuff, but ive run in to a few very time consuming issues. I have had help from the dev though, which gives me more confidence over an app that haven’t been updated for almost 5 years. Ive now got quite a simple mixer set up, and prertty much a lto of the extras aren’t used. Considering what ive used in the past, this will be like a breath of fresh air. I’ll even be able to give up using a sub mixer and use the XR18 for all my monitoring. That will make life easier for me.

Our needs are really quite modest. We have been doing ok with a standard mixer for years, only using 8 channels, so the P16M would really be overkill at the moment. I’d rather no one in the band fiddles with anything while we are playing, but with me stuck up at the back, and levels going up during the gig it makes sense that the singer and drummer have control over their monitoring. The rest of the band , not so much. Hoping to start putting more instruments through the PA, starting with one guitar for now.

Thanks Phil. I’ll reply in length later. The comment about the headphone out is because I normally use a TRS to XLR stereo cable for my IEM’s. It feels a bit clunky if I have to use two XLR outs. 6 in total is more than enough for the band.