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[quote name='Bass_Guardian' post='1002481' date='Oct 27 2010, 02:16 PM']Is there anyone on this forum who can apply headstock decals professionally? No offense Wil [/quote] They are very easy to apply, so don't listen to the hamfisted Email this guy and ask for what you need. I have used his decals and they are excellent! [url="http://thedecalshop.co.uk/"]http://thedecalshop.co.uk/[/url] Cheers.

I have a Warwick stereo barrel output jack I need to solder to, mono though. I just need to know which pins are which, because I can't seem to find out! I think the large outside pin has to be sleeve. The two other pins are on the same radius, but one is smaller than the other. Can I assume the smaller is tip? Thanks for any help.

I really like Haslip. Massive chops but he has great taste and artistry to go with them. Berlin could learn a lot from him in my opinion

Superb! Well done mate, great achievement. But then you are a great player too

[quote name='Clarky' post='1002126' date='Oct 27 2010, 10:25 AM']Congrats Nigel, really well done job there mate. Gigging it soon? Now about X-factor ... [/quote] It will be at the next gig for sure. What's X-factor? you mean a Kubicki?

Thanks for the very kind words everyone! I am so happy with it's looks [quote name='FlatEric' post='1002019' date='Oct 27 2010, 08:41 AM']Top job!!! I have been looking at this for some time and it was great watching it come together. Looks terrific - Look forward to a full review on playability and sounds. Cheers. [/quote] Thank you! I will do a YT vid and some proper sound clips and write an honest review of my own build as soon as I've got it all sorted

[quote name='purpleblob' post='1001780' date='Oct 26 2010, 09:46 PM']Wow ! Great job. Really is looking good.[/quote] Thanks fella I am over the bloody moon, if it sounds as good as it looks, I'm in Cheers!

All assembled apart from connecting the electronics, I'm a little confused because I am not convinced the usual black and white, hot and cold wires (as in John East's diagrams) are the same in the MECs, could be red white and I have no way of testing them, although I could compare with the wiring in my other Warwicks. Also, a real pisser is that the E string guide on the Hipshot has gone missing, I know how, but I've probably hoovered the bastard up a month ago. I am going to have to Pray Hipshot can sell me a replacement. Facking bummer. Nevermind, I had all sort of little problems with this build so one or two more ain't so bad. Anyway, you can see exactly what it looks like for real now in the pics below. I have to say, I am absolutely delighted with how it looks, the proportions are right, sleek lines, love the pickup and controls layout, the pickguard (Jon's done a superb job!) and the balance is totally spot on! I am absolutely delighted!! Thanks for all your help and supp0rt everyone

[quote name='frank' post='4125' date='May 22 2007, 12:17 AM']wow ! whats chad wackerman like love his live zappa stuff along with Mr thunes[/quote] Apparently they didn't get along and Wacks had Thunes taken off his monitors. Thunes said that's why 98% of the downbeats were wrong.

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1001009' date='Oct 26 2010, 12:33 PM']Excellent![/quote] The bass may be finished tonight! I can't believe I started this nearly FOUR months ago. The project was ostensibly quite a simple one, but I really appreciate the effort that goes into a one-off build now.

Ooh, just got the message the PG arrived! Looking forward to getting home this evening! Hope it fits

[quote name='Doddy' post='1000247' date='Oct 25 2010, 05:41 PM']But when these guys get a chance to solo situation of course they aren't going to 'hold down the low end'. Guitar players don't just play the same chordal pattern or riff and piano players don't continue to comp when it's time to solo-every instrumentalist cuts loose when they have the chance. Sorry,but I think that's a spur of the moment,bullshit comment. Why ignore those who say you should learn theory and to read? It won't make you play like Marcus,Victor or Stanley,and it won't make you play music you don't like. Doesn't Scott Thunes put value on reading and theory? No there isn't a James Brown or Zappa there,but these guys have worked with enough people in the past that have,and do 'challenged them and utilise their technical talent'. I just took that clip for what it was-an entertaining part of the live show. The SMV album actually has some good music on it. You wouldn't end up li ke that if you didn't want to. There are many technically and musically advanced players who are working in loads of 'non-chopsy' situations. You'd only 'end up like that' if you wanted to...which you don't. Yeah,get it......It's possibly my favourite Stanley album.[/quote] Right, I do not in any way denigrate or cast dark upon the wonderful opportunities that understanding theory and sight reading can afford. My point is that to compose great music is very different to simply recreating it. So many players now are being brought up with th notion they will be better "musicians" if they learn to read and learn classical four part harmony. Very good, but what if they have a limited musical mind? Sure they can do sessions and be a mechanic, but what if they think they can compose and put out an album of sh*t? The greatest thing missing in modern tuition is to enable mechanics to realise the potential to be composers or to know that can't be. Being able to manipulate paint in the way of Giotto does not make one an artist. The skill of the musician artist is to create something which is a true reflection of themselves or the songwriter they are serving. That depends upon developing a sense of self and in turn that requires a certain personality. Some people have it and recognise the tools they need and acquire them. Others are destined to be mechanics and acquire the skills they need to perform their function. All are a necessary part of music creation, but learning all that theory does not make anyone a composer in the way being able to read and write in your chosen language does not make them a worthwhile author or poet. It takes an immeasurable amount more than that. It takes an attitude to the world that you feel compelled to communicate. If you have that, then you will have an individual way of building your toolbox.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' post='993401' date='Oct 19 2010, 12:24 PM']Jack basses have a soft maple body, and that's quite light.[/quote] My Jack was heavy!

Since Jake has contributed to this thread, maybe I should say something about a lesson, my only bass lesson, that I had with Jake about two years ago. I was (still am) doing well with my bands as a sort of hired gun, albeit only 177 calibre, and I thought it was high time I upped my game, and deludedly (with hindsight), had pretensions to learn to read music a bit, and learn more theory, to see if it would propel me somewhat into learning more and being what I thought at the time was a PROPER musician. Well, most of the time we talked and discussed and I learned a LOT. then we had an hour of Jake teaching me some theory and the basics of reading music on the bass clef. We talked a little about the inner voice and Jake proceeded to sing and play exactly hat he was singing at the same time. Being desperate to demonstrate at least a little musicality, I did the same. I sang and played the same notes at the same time. Well now, Jake looked at me with a knowing smile and a twinkle in his eye and said, [b]"You were singing what you were playing, not playing what you were singing."[/b] That, my friends, has been the single, most important musical lesson in my LIFE, by f***ing miles! Let that be the music lesson.

[quote name='skej21' post='999121' date='Oct 24 2010, 06:27 PM']I have to say that personally, this over-emotional and happy-clappy approach to bass (you have to find "the music" to sound compelling?!) just as disengaging and boring as the virtuosic fret-wonking morons...[/quote] Then you have not yet found the musician within yourself.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='999104' date='Oct 24 2010, 06:14 PM']Maybe I'm projecting my own tastes a bit here but I think it's easier to find an emotional connection to the sound of the double bass than it is to bass guitar. Especially given that modern active bass guitar sound with ultra-bright roundwounds and the way the well-known soloists seem to attack each string like it just insulted their mother. I do despair when I hear these "greats" with tens of thousands of pounds worth of donated gear and they all make those same stark, shrill noises. I don't know why they all gravitate towards that sound. The double bass just seems to have a more agreeable character to it. It's got a warmth and a humour to it, a humanity maybe. Fretless bass can be interesting in similar ways but it's a cold sound, to me, where the upright is often more homely and pleasant, or alternatively more stately and dramatic. When I pick up a bass at home these days, 99% of the time it's the double bass. I can play the bass guitar to a much higher standard and all my gigs are currently on bass guitar but given the choice I play DB instead.[/quote] I tend to agree with you there. The very fact you can't articulate a string bass with the same facility as an electric means you have to find "the music" to sound compelling.

[quote name='skej21' post='999080' date='Oct 24 2010, 05:45 PM']Can I ask, how does learning to sight read/learn theory make you into a fret-wonking moron? I would just like to hear the opinion behind such a sweeping statement.[/quote] No No No! I didn't say that! I just have good ears, I trust them and the music I play and the bands I play with do not require that level of knowledge, only my personal music judgement. I like my musical choices and the only thing I was implying was that a musician can get to a point where they can only fulfil themselves by playing the sort of sh*t in that video. There is no outlet for their talent. There is no James Brown, no Frank Zappa, no great composer to challenge them and utilise their technical talent. That video demonstrated such a lack of integrity in those musicians, such immaturity, that anyone who has true musical values and immense knowledge of theory would probably be ashamed. If I had that level of talent, I know I would need to do something with it, but I wouldn't want to end up like that and I know it's possible I might and I would have to kill myself Edited for some clarity and so I don't sound like quite as much of an arsehole.

Fack me, Stanley, Victor and Marcus, in a "bass battle"?. Shall I? Shan't I? Shall I? Shan't I? Shall I? Shan't I? Shall I? Shan't I? Shall I? Shan't I? Oh Bollocks! I pressed play. And was visited upon by a display of worthless, unmusical, miserable rubbish that does every bassist with a heart a disservice of biblical proportion. The utterly bovine yelps of appreciation from the audience makes me feel like the pursuit of a life in music to be a worthless endeavour. I feel angry about that video, something music rarely makes me feel. All that BULLSHIT these f***ers say in interviews about studying, learning to be a perfectionist, learning to connect with life and humanity to better communicate your art and emotions, distilled into a pathetic display of par-boiled Dan Brown mechanical excrement that surely must excite only the most supine of intellects. I'm appalled. Thanks for posting it ET, I have learned why I trust my ears, and why I ignore those who implore me to learn to sight read and learn theory.

[quote name='JMT3781' post='998878' date='Oct 24 2010, 02:27 PM']completely agree i just wish everyone could be nice to each other lol[/quote] If we were all nice to each other all the time it would be like bloody Stepford wives on here! Life is all about tension and resolution and enjoying the moment. The opportunity to apologise and make up if you've been a naughty, vociferous bass player is what creates and strengthens relationships. God knows I've pissed off a few people on here in my time, and people who have pissed me off, but in most cases we are now good friends and been to each other's gigs. That's life, celebrate it, it's what keeps the blood pumping.

[quote name='JMT3781' post='998873' date='Oct 24 2010, 02:15 PM']differing opinions and tastes... just think where the world would be without them. Personally i love being able to have a different style of takeaway every night, just as i love being able to listen to a different style of music with just a click of a mouse. So even if different peoples ideas cause little differences between people, I'm glad of them, because as a result life is varied and exciting... get my drift?[/quote] You are absolutely right of course. But just as we all like to eat different food, where would we be if we could not discuss and argue our positions, the better to stimulate, enlighten and broaden ourselves. Oscar has posted some music he greatly loves but to me it is an abomination. However, I don't like funk at all but Crazykiwi once posted a gospel jam once that completely blew me away, I became mildly obsessed with it and it forced me to rethink. The debate is how we learn, it has its own purpose, it is how we surprise and delight each other. Peace x

[quote name='Oscar South' post='998854' date='Oct 24 2010, 01:48 PM']The square brackets were to imply that what's inside them is an interchangeable context, I used the recipe to build off your post for a comedic touch[/quote] ?

[quote name='Oscar South' post='998847' date='Oct 24 2010, 01:44 PM']Haha, found it in his dads record collection. I think its great, that art like that can exist is proof that we live in a better world than we're lead to believe sometimes.[/quote] Is it "art"? What is art to you? To me it was not what I consider to be "art". It was four bassists and a drummer making a sound like a wasp nest.

[quote name='Oscar South' post='998840' date='Oct 24 2010, 01:38 PM']Although I've experimented in it, I don't play bass in any way like the subject matter discussed in this thread, have a listen to the bands linked to in my sig.. its about as far from this thread as you can get. The key difference between what you're saying and the reality of this thread though is that you're suggesting that the original statement here was: "I don't like [The raw gonads of the sea urchin served with soy and wasabi]" where it was: "[The raw gonads of the sea urchin served with soy and wasabi] can never work"[/quote] Both the recipes I mentioned work for millions of people. Both are popular dishes in the countries they originate in. I nearly chose the pigs intestines (chitterlings) at a restaurant, St John in east London, but was advised by the waitress something else on the menu was even more delicious.

[quote name='Oscar South' post='998829' date='Oct 24 2010, 01:30 PM']This could actually argue the case either way depending on your state of mind or exposure to certain genres, but either way it is interesting: [url="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/134504/For%20All%20It%20Is.mp3"]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/134504/For%20All%20It%20Is.mp3[/url] Its a vinyl I borrowed from a friend and digitalised, its basically 4 double bassists and a drummer.. it gets pretty crazy ..[/quote] Oh man! That is absolutely unspeakable! Your mate bought that??

[quote name='Oscar South' post='998815' date='Oct 24 2010, 01:21 PM']Why even make this thread? Were you drunk or on drugs? It serves no purpose but to be ignorant. I'm not getting into a debate here, music is music and any can be beautiful or ugly. I've run jam nights where there have been multi bass jams and I've taken part in them, and in my experience where all parties involved are good musicians, they've all sounded excellent. Looks like we may have a variable here?.. Also, have you listened to 95% of Manring, Sheehan and Wooten's recorded output? Or just heard a few snippets, maybe a solo album here or there? This post make me think you're just fishing for argument, which I can actually say I've been guilty of at times . Two albums for anyone who still has doubts to put them to rest: [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Bass-Could-Only-Talk/dp/B000025LOI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287922767&sr=1-1"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Bass-Could-On...2767&sr=1-1[/url] - Most tracks have a 'lead' bass and a 'bass' bass, this is one of the most important bass playing albums recorded, and is all incredible music [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pulse-Artery-Rothko/dp/B000059WK2"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pulse-Artery-Rothko/dp/B000059WK2[/url] - Three bass guitars and nothing else make up this album, and its one of the most beautiful things you'll ever hear[/quote] Mmm, sorry to point this out, but there is a certain loftiness, a bitter arrogance in your post. You are not considering that others may feel differently and not aspire to the goals you have for the bass. Is there a food you are not keen on? The intestines of a pig, lightly steamed then sautéed in oil perhaps? The raw gonads of the sea urchin served with soy and wasabi? Then don't be so quick to dismiss that person who does not as ignorant.