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[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][quote name='AdamWoodBass' timestamp='1487338616' post='3239115'] This thread has been very useful to me as this is a cab I've recently been looking at as a replacement for my 2 no name 1x12's. I am also going to be running a Markbass LM3 and my logic was the same as the OP - one 4ohm cab to minimise footprint and get the full 500 watts out of the head. Great thread guys, thanks. [/quote][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Hi Adam. Glad to know that this has helped you in some way. Let me know how you get on if you decide to go for a 122. Cheers.[/color][/font][/size]

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1487326965' post='3238942'] Originally, the LM2/3 sounded quite a lot warmer and less clinical than the LM800, but they've changed a fair bit of spec since then, so now I'm not sure. I think they changed the LM3 to a Class D module a few years back. I would try it how it is first....see if you need it. [/quote][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]Hi Musicman20. You're right, the LMIII's are class D now. Unfortunately, I’m in no position to compare, as I have never owned the old class A/B version- as you say, it’s supposed to be ‘warmer’ sounding.[/color] [color=#000000]It[/color][color=#000000]’s seems that one common complaint about Class D amps is the lack of warmth[/color][color=#000000]; whereas others[/color][color=#000000] have argued that the power difference is negligibl[/color][color=#000000]e (w[/color][color=#000000]e could go on and on![/color][color=#000000] lol)-[/color] [color=#000000]ATEOTD, it really is down to the players preferences and how [/color][i][i][color=#000000]they[/color][/i][/i][color=#000000] hear it.[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000][color=#000000]From my research, the general [/color][color=#000000]feeling[/color][color=#000000] amongst LM800 users looks to be[/color][color=#000000] mostly positive; players noting it as c[/color][color=#000000]lean, punchy [/color][color=#000000]and[/color][color=#000000] true sounding[/color][color=#000000], with plenty[/color][color=#000000] of headroom[/color][color=#000000]. Apparently, t[/color][color=#000000]he flat setting has that great [/color][color=#000000]‘[/color][color=#000000]warm-clean[/color][color=#000000]’[/color][color=#000000] sound of the LM II[/color][color=#000000]/III and (while[/color][color=#000000] the difference in volume is negligib[/color][color=#000000]le)[/color][color=#000000] players have [/color][color=#000000]found [/color][color=#000000]that the EQ controls seem to have more of an impact.[/color][/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]Again, all of these points are subjective though, so... [/color][/font][/size]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4][color=#000000]Hi everyone. Some great feedback here, thank you![/color] [color=#000000]I’m thinking of upgrading to the LM800, just for a little more headroom. It has a power handling of 800w RMS, will this work ok with the NY122?[/color] [color=#000000]I have seen a few players on youtube using the LM800/NY122 setup (including jazz heavyweight Richard Bona himself). But I wanted to swing it past everyone here on basschat first?[/color][/size][/font]

Hi all. UPDATE: Ok so, having furthered my research, it would appear that 212’s are more popular than I thought; players noting them for being loud, yet defined across the board (low/mid/high) AND light- in some cases, preferring them over 410’s! I have also discovered that jazz bassist Richard Bona, used to favour the NY122 before MB built him the ‘ninja’ equivalent. You can find videos where he is sporting the little mark head (either LMIII or 800) and 212 cab as a standalone- so this is definitely reassuring.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1486937813' post='3235783'] 1" radius anyone? [media]http://youtu.be/UA3Qah6z1gg[/media] [/quote] Lol. I bet his luthier didn't know what to with himself! Also, I reckon [i]this [/i]could double up as a pretty effective weapon (for those more lairy crowds) lol

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1486884781' post='3235187'] Status Hotwires these days. [/quote] Hi Kiwi. Cool, great to know, cheers!

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1486757612' post='3234430'] Anything to do with the treble in a speaker system is a tweeter, the deep end is a woofer and the middle if you have one is a squawker though only older readers will have heard that one I guess. As you say it is advertising, the compression driver on the horn has a 1" voice coil, I don't suppose it has changed much maybe not at all which means if it was good before it still is and if not.. Anyway it's how it sounds that matters, I'd really strongly recommend you go and try it. 12's and 10's don't really have a sound which won't overlap a lot. It was easier in the olden days when everyone made a 4x10 and a 1x15 and pretty much tried to make them sound fairly similar. The reason for using 12's is because it is where the sweet spot is nowadays. Amps commonly output 300W into 8 ohms and 500W into 4. Put that much power into a 12" speaker and you'll typically generate just over 120dB which neatly matches a drummer. Most 12's will handle this power fairly well too. Take a second 12 and you'll have enough headroom to just about do everything you need given that at these sound levels you absolutely have to get the sound level on stage lowered and into the PA. I don't think you need to worry about it not being enough, choose on the basis of how it sounds. Obviously there are cheap 12's that won't quite work that well but once you are in the mid price bracket you'll hit the sweet spot. [/quote][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000][color="#000000"]Hi Phil starr. Cheers for your response. That[/color][color="#000000"]’s[/color][color="#000000"] great, very helpful mate, thank you. [/color][/color][/font][/size]

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1486841328' post='3234980'] Why don't you practice on your own bass that suits you and maybe you can be as good as your heroes? Just play the bloody thing! [/quote][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Hi LDTF. Lol, cheers for the motivational speech, but it[/color][color="#000000"]’s not for playing purposes; more to settle my own curiosity if anything.[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif] [/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]That said, I [/color][i][i][color="#000000"]am[/color][/i][/i][color="#000000"] actually in the market for a new bass lol [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif] [/font][/size][/color][/font][/size]

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1486834378' post='3234910'] The Mustang isn't unique with the pickup switch issue. The Yamaha BB2024 I sold to Chris (Beedster) had a duff switch and I tried one in a shop recently and that was the same, and that's a £2k+ bass. Easily sorted though. Peter [/quote] Hi Greeneking. I see, cheers for sharing, that's definitely a consolation

[quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1486807691' post='3234643'] Pretty sure Mark King uses, and helped to develop, the Rotosound 30-50-70-90 Funkmaster set. [/quote] Hi bakerster135. Thanks for your response. Yes, now that you mention it, I [i]do[/i] recall the 'Funkmaster' set. Do you reckon he is still using these then, or has perhaps moved on to something else since?

[quote name='stega' timestamp='1486757443' post='3234427'] I've owned two! I can't remember the actual width, but it was pretty slim at the nut. I sent the first back due to a faulty pickup switch. The second arrived with exactly the same problem, so gave up after that! The shop offered to fix the second one, but I'd kind of lost faith in them by that point. Nice bass otherwise, not quite as open a sound as my P-bass, but i guess thats the short scale at work. The short scale was both lovely and weird to play - loved how fast it could feel, but when playing with the band I found myself really having to focus on the fretboard to make sure i hit the right notes. Sure it wouldn't take long to adjust though. [/quote] Hi stega. That's great, cheers! Thanks for the heads-up on the pickup switch; I shall be extra vigilante in future (if I eventually decide to buy). [quote name='stega' timestamp='1486757443' post='3234427'] The short scale was both lovely and weird to play - loved how fast it could feel, but when playing with the band I found myself really having to focus on the fretboard to make sure i hit the right notes. Sure it wouldn't take long to adjust though. [/quote] Lol, yes, this seems to be the general consensus among players who have tried it. Like you say, will take some adjusting

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1486753446' post='3234403'] I saw a Janek Gwizdala vlog the other day where he had just bought one and he described it as slim iirc. [/quote] Hi MBA. Thanks for your response. Lol, yes, I have seen that particular vlog aswell. Maybe I'll re-watch it, perhaps I missed something.

[quote name='Burns-bass' timestamp='1486765851' post='3234511'] Having seen Mark King in a small pub once, I reckon you could give him a £20 Encore and he'd make it sing... [/quote] Hi burns-bass. Lol, I reckon you could be right there!

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1486758925' post='3234452'] VW's Spec is: Number of Strings 4 Color Natural Body Material Walnut Body with Yellowheart top Body Finish Acrylic Lacquer Neck Material 3-piece Hard Rock Maple Radius Compound Fingerboard Material Ebony Fingerboard Inlay Pearloid Dots Number of Frets 24 Scale Length 34" Nut Width 1.53" Bridge/Tailpiece Fodera 19.0mm Standard Bridge Tuners Gotoh Number of Pickups 2 Middle Pickup EMG P bass Split-coil Bridge Pickup EMG J bass Single-coil Controls 1 x volume/tone (stacked), 1 x bass/treble (stacked), 1 x pan, 1 x midrange, active/passive switch (preamp) Strings 4095 Nickel Strings Case Included Hardshell case Manufacturer Part Number YYS4 Series II [/quote] [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1486759153' post='3234455'] Mark King: The 30th Anniversary KingBass is available as both four and five string models and includes many custom options : > Custom 16.5mm string spacing > Headless woven graphite neck with custom 32" scale and 'BendWell' > Custom 2010 hum-cancelling J type pickups > 3-band EQ with variable frequency midrange > Custom front and side LED's featuring new back-lit stars > Graphite through-neck set into body below the front facing wood > Book-matched birds eye or flamed maple facing veneer > Two stunning colour options : Cherry-amber or Vintage-amber sunburst > Custom gold hardware designed by Rob Green and custom made for Status Graphite [color=#000000][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Alembic Mark king standard[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Scale - 34.00 Thru body neck 3 maple + 2 walnut pinstripes [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Fingerboard Ebony [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Nut width 1.750 [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]24th fret width 2.250 [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Truss rods Dual, body adjust [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Body material Mahogany [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Body depth 1.50 [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Finish High gloss polyester with satin neck [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Pickups AXY4 [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Controls Vol, pan, low-pass filter with q switch x2 [/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=3]Tailpiece Solid brass, bird [/size][/font][/color] Not complete info, but it's a start. [/quote] Hi Grangur. Thanks for your response. Ok so, from your list so far, I've got... Mark king: [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-scale length = 32"[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-neck radius = ?[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-string gauge = ?[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-string spacing = 16.5mm[/color][/font][/size] Victor Wooten: [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-scale length = 34"[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-neck radius = ?[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-string gauge = 40-95[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]-string spacing = 19mm[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000] [/color][/font][/size]

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Hi all. Just researching a couple of my favourite players and their preferred bass spec; however, I am struggling to find the following criteria. I wondered if any of you knew please? [/color][/font][/size][size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Mark King & Victor Wooten… [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]-scale length[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]-neck radius[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]-string gauge[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]-string spacing[/color][/font][/size] For argument sake, we'll say their current axes. So, the 'Kingbass Paramatric' and the 'Fodera Victor Wooten Yin Yang'. Accurate information please, no guesses. Cheers.

Hi 40hz. Cheers for your response! [quote name='40hz' timestamp='1486719747' post='3234032'] I had this exact can you're talking about. It was pretty much all the cab you would ever need. Light, well built. Could handle everything you could throw at it. Stayed very clean and composed at all volumes. Has decent dispersion. Great sensitivity. Highly, highly recommended. [/quote] This is great, very reassuring indeed, cheers! [quote name='40hz' timestamp='1486719747' post='3234032'] The only downside I could mention would be the [b]compression horn [/b]made my SUB sound a bit odd when popping or playing aggressively. Not bad, just sort of clanky and flat. [/quote] The official Markbass website are advertising the latest version of the NY122 with a '[b]1" voice coil tweeter'[/b]. Any idea how these compare to the compression horn? Presumably replaced for the better, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the change at all, right?

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Hi all. Looking into the latest 2016 Fender [/color][color="#000000"]Mustan[/color][color="#000000"]g [/color][color="#000000"]‘PJ’[/color][color="#000000"] Bass (short scale).[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif] [/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]It’s nut width is unclear though; Fenders official website describing it as a 1.50” (38.1 mm), yet, most retailers seem to have it advertised as a [/color][color="#000000"]1.65[/color][color="#000000"]”[/color][color="#000000"] (42 mm)[/color][color="#000000"]. [/color][/font][/size][size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Anybody here on basschat that owns one (or played one), that can confirm it’s nut width?[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif] [/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Cheers.[/color][/font][/size]

Cheers all for the feedback. Any other basschatters out there that can shed any light on the NY122, or just 212's in general, or even a little on how 12's compare to 10's in terms of speaker size. All is appreciated!

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1486660554' post='3233658'] In terms of voicing I'm not sure you can generalise based solely on driver size.. however the fact I replaced two ebs410s with a single 212 should provide some reassurance [/quote] Cool, definitely reassuring. Essentially, that is what I'm trying to do (replacing my 410 with a single 212). (Excluding the 'ninja') Markbass only offer this 122 as 4Ohmm; I suppose the implication being that it is fine on its own.

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1486644548' post='3233475'] It's an efficient modern cab (103db/1w/1m) - I don't see how it could not be loud enough with your LM3.. [/quote] Hi markstuk. Great, that's also reassuring, thank you! I've read stories about players using it for medium sized shows (500 capacity and more), and apparently being very happy (and surprised) with it's performance, for it's size. Admittedly, I've never used 12's before. Any idea how they compare to 10's? I've read that 10's appear slightly 'scooped' compared to 12's; and 12's being more mids concentrated and capable of better lows- does any of this ring true? (please correct me if I'm wrong). (In short) I need to make sure that'll it 'cut through' during shows, while retaining some balls lol

[quote name='mybass' timestamp='1486642275' post='3233454'] The larger 2x10 MarkBass are good stand alone cabs anyway but it looks like the NY 122 'Ninja' cab is 800watts @8 ohms so your (MB) amp could run a second 8ohm cab, while the NY 122 is a 4ohm cab so no more added cabs. [/quote] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color="#000000"]Hi mybass. The [/color][color="#000000"]‘[/color][color="#000000"]ninja[/color][color="#000000"]’[/color][color="#000000"] cab was certainly of interest; but f[/color][color="#000000"]or cost and transportation purposes, I have no intention of expanding the rig past the one cab[/color][color="#000000"]. S[/color][color="#000000"]o I’m thinking the 4Ohm version would be the appropriate choice here, just so I get the most out of my LMIII. Cheers.[/color][/font][/size]

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1486631079' post='3233321'] ... Super light! Easy to move around. I'm not sure how the latest models compare. [/quote] I musicman20. That's reassuring thank you. I understand that the latest models are not too far off, in terms of weight.

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4][color=#000000][color=#000000]Hi all. Just wondering how the 'Markbass New York 122' bass cab would fare as a standalone?[/color] [color=#000000]For transportation and health purposes (my back! lol), I was hoping to ditch my 410, in favour of something smaller. Initially, I had entertained the idea of a 210 cab; however, with the lingering doubt of truly being able to hear myself during shows, I decided that a 210 was out of the[/color] [color=#000000]question for live gigging.[/color] [color=#000000]My attention has since been turned onto the New York 122; players noting it as being both powerful, but also defined in terms of sound AND light.[/color] [color=#000000]Bars to butlins stages, all my shows have PA support, so the 122 will be used solely for[/color] [color=#000000]self-monitoring purposes. I’ll be pairing it with my Little Mark III. I always stand within close proximity of my cab and use the Mark Stand to tilt it slightly up toward me.[/color] [color=#000000]I have read that that NY122 can get pretty loud for it’s size. It has power handling of 800w RMS, so should be able to accommodate my LMIII (500w)- even the LM800 (should I decide to upgrade in future).[/color] [color=#000000]Anybody on basschat that can vouch for the NY122? Cheers.[/color][/color][/size][/font]

[quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1486608119' post='3233261'] I used the 102HF Std for quite some time with numerous bands including a heavy, downtuned rock band on some large stages with a *very* loud drummer, and it held up admirably. Certainly no shortage of low end. [/quote] Hi jus lukin. Thanks for your response. That's great, definitely reassuring!

[quote name='dave74200' timestamp='1486588820' post='3233126'] I'd have to say no. I'd go for a barefaced 2x12 or similar. There's a massive difference in sound and still a one hand pick up. Also, barefaced compacts can be picked up reasonably and also sound massive. [/quote] Hi dave. Thanks for the recommendation. I believe they are front ported, right; perhaps [i]this[/i] is what makes them stand out. That said, perhaps the Markbass standard 102hf (front-ported) is to be considered also then. Anybody out there that with experience of the 102hf?