Hiya truckstop I've tried various things ,straps , strings, sitting down is fine ,but when I'm playing live but bit of a no no really think the audience may have something to say about that one ,unless we start playing folk gigs then suppose I could sit down all night but I don't think I'll be going down that road ,lol.cheers fella ,think I've just had enough of full size basses to ,thanks for the advice ,regards kev