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There's a full stop on the end of the link. Try this http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/middle_bass.htm

Ok, that's good to know as they are differently wired and I wondered if that was the issue. The cab I'm trying to get working is a Fender 810 Bassman Neo. This one: http://shop.fender.com/en-GB/bass-amplifiers/pro-tube/bassman-810-neo-enclosure/2249200000.html#start=1 The 810 is a 4ohm cab and has a tweeter. Speakers look to be the same as in my Neo 410 but they don't have any stickers on them. Only difference (apart from the stickers) is that the foam ring on the front is a softer foam on the 810 than on the 410. Thanks for the reply.

Hi all. I'm gonna repair my 810 Fender cab. I currently doesn't work and I don't know what's wrong with it. It never worked. I have the 410 version of this cab. Would they be wired the same? As in can I follow the wiring for the 410 and use that as a guide to make sure nothing inside the 810 has been changed? I already noticed that the first speaker on the 810 was attached different to the 410 in that the cables went on different lugs. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Hi all. Have a Bassman 810 Neo that doesn't seem to work properly. When facing it the top left speaker works, the top right seems to work at a lower volume and as you get to the bottom the volume drops to nothing. Does anyone have any idea what the problem may be? Anyone got a wiring diagram for it? If you need more info (and you probably will) then let me know and I'll try to help. Thanks.

Anyone else got setup settings to share?

Some very fine steel wool. Make sure to keep the filings away from the pickups. This technique is used in one of the official Taylor guitar videos on how to clean and maintain a fretboard. Also lemon oil or some kind of specific fretboard wood oil will be good after you've done it, but yeah steel wool gets the fret clean very quickly and they sparkle like new afterwards.

[quote name='ikay' timestamp='1506863671' post='3381564'] My P bass setup below for comparison (all measurements taken the same way as yours). Probably not a lot of use in scientific terms as all basses are unique and there are many factors that affect tone and playability. The setup below is the result of several years of playing and fine tuning this particular bass and works well for my playing style (mainly finger style jazz/funk/pop). Bass: 1973 P with original pickup Fingerboard: Rosewood Relief: just a smidge (I like a fairly straight neck) Strings: DR Sunbeams 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 String action at 17th fret (mm): G 3.7 / D 4.0 / A 4.0 / E 4.5 Height above pickup poles (mm): G 5.5 / D 6.0 / A 8.0 / E 6.0 This setup gives an even output across the strings (no weak G) and the tone is quite open and responsive to touch. One thing worth mentioning is that raising a pickup to compensate for a weak string isn't always the best thing. I find that lowering pickups and having a bit more air between the string and polepieces often results in a more even, open and fuller sound along with a wider range of playing dynamics. [/quote] Cool, thanks for the reply. I noticed you use light strings. One person had said it was a way to get an even output as they had suggested Ernie Ball Super Slinkys in their post. I'll give lowering the pickup a try. Good call on the relief, that's one thing I forgot to mention. Mine is 0.30 cappo on the first and held down on the last. Same for both basses. I think that's what Fender suggests. Also the USA is a maple board and the mex is rosewood, I'll update my post.

Also I should add I'm a plectrum player, 60mm dunlop tortex with a medium to heavy(ish) play style. Amp is a Fender Super bassman run into a bassman 4x10. No effects or pedals just straight into the amp. This issue with strings happens on my other basses as well but they are strung up with the Prosteels I mentioned.

Hi all. I started a post a while back about a weak sounding bass but it was discovered that the pickup was at fault. It turned into a post about string balance etc... Since then I've been looking into it somewhat and driving myself nuts. The issue is now with most of my basses and I mainly use P-basses so that's what I'm bassing it on (No pun intended ) So I have 4 String P-basses with a weak G. I've tried lots of things. I have managed to get the volume close but not perfect. So I'll start with the P-bass I used last night. It's a Fender Mex Passive P-bass deluxe. It's using a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound (I don't use the jazz pickup at all). Strung with D'addario EXL165 (45, 65, 85, 105). Action is (@ 17th fret uncappo'd) E=3.2mm, A=2.7mm, D=2.7mm, G=2.7mm. Pickup height is (Held down at the last fret) E=3.7mm, A=3.7mm, D=2.7mm, G=1.5mm. Neck relief is 0.30 at the 8th with a cappo on the first and held down at the last fret. Fretboard is rosewood. I found on the above bass that the G was still slightly weak and a little lacking. I've been finding this on most basses of mine. I even tried EQ'ing my amp different last night with more mids and less treble/bass. I tried settings from Gary Mac in the previous post but that didn't work. I've Googled without coming up with a suggestion. Any ideas? My other P-bass is a USA standard strung with the same as above, action at the 17th without cappo is: 2.5mm across all strings, Pickup height is (Held down at the last fret) E=4mm, A=5mm, D=4.7mm, G=2.5mm. Neck relief is 0.30 at the 8th with a cappo on the first and held down at the last fret. Fretboard is maple. Previously I had D'addario EPS160 Prosteels (50, 70, 85, 105) and same issue. I'd also like to know your setup like I have posted above with action stating cappo or no cappo at the 17th, string gauge and make, bass, pickup height etc... and if you have the same issue or no issue. Does anyone also know the relationship between string distance, mass and tension. I know distance affects tone and output (Closer higher and more treble). How does mass affect tone and tension? Just that some say a thicker string gives more output but that means more tension and others state higher tension means less vibration which equals less magnetic force and thus less signal. So it seems to contradict itself. Thanks for any help.

I have the hot stack in my P-bass special. Currently paired with a SPB-2. The hot stack is a nice pickup and adds a good amount of brightness without hum. Though I have to say I usually end up running just my P pickup as when I have the two on at the same time it's hard to break through the mix. One of the main reasons I'm switching back to my Original P pickup but that's another story. So... Yeah I think the Hot stack is a good choice though when I used the QP set I had no real issues with bad hum. If I remember the stock jazz pickup has been mentioned to be a bit noisier but I never really thought so.

I'e owned a couple of Aerodyne basses. I replaced the pickups with Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounds. Not to everyones taste but I like them. So pickup wise it depends on what you're looking for. I always thought the pots did the job just fine. Never looked at them but they sounded good and worked without issue. The bridge is a pain though. Since it's a curved top and the bridge is recessed getting a fitting replacement is a bugger. I have seen a couple of different bridges. My Red Aerodyne had a bridge that had a thicker back plate than my blue one. Again I thought the bridges worked just fine but regular replacements like the Gotoh and Badass etc... will require modification to fit rather than just putting it on like a regular bass.

Cool. thanks. I take it when you mention "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]E and G strings at the height that want them[/font][/color]" you mean at the saddle? I'm guessing the pickups should also follow this in respect that the radius is tilted somewhat from being 3.6 at one side and 2.4 at the other? Just trying to clarify it as it's what I've done and am just waiting to try it out. On another note (No pun intended) I have a Jazz bass where all the strings are perfect except for the D which appears a little lower in volume than the rest. Ever encountered this and if so any suggestions on how to correct it?

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1502353120' post='3350813'] Glad to hear that you are almost sorted. [/quote] Yeah. Never thought until someone mentioned it that it might be a wiring issue as it had been working perfectly before. Can I pick your brains a tad more? With the E being 3.6mm and the G being 2.4mm do you make the the A 3.2mm and D 2.8mm or do you keep them A 3.6mm and D 2.4mm? Also I got the EAD strings sounding fine but the G was still a little weak. It was sitting pretty close. Is there a point at which it can be too close and drop output? I know lowering it gives it a bassier tone and generally reduces output a little but not sure if it can be too close and cause output issues without touching the string obviously. I have use your settings on my Jaguar bass but haven't got round to setting up this one with them as yet, just wanted to ask. I should also point out I use D'addario Prosteel 105-50 gauge. So a little thicker on the D and G strings than D'addarios normal standard gauge. Thanks.

Didn't clarify the issue. Looked like something was wrong with the wiring but it's fixed now. I've balanced the pickup height as per Gary Mac's suggestion. Won't get to try it out properly until a week on Sat but after setting it up during sound check on Sat it wasn't a million miles away and I felt like the balance was almost there. With any luck this will get it closer and I can tweak from there onwards. Thanks again for all the advice.

Should have updated this. Got my bass back and it seems to be working perfectly now. Sounds great but just need to balance the strings more. The G sounds weak compared to the other 3. Got it pretty close too. I'll try the above recommendations from Gary Mac.

[quote name='Meddle' timestamp='1500496264' post='3338304'] I sank the whole thing in epoxy. I used nippers to chew down the flatwork. Cool was totally submerged in epoxy, so no need for tape. [/quote] One other question. Did you drill holes in the cover for the pole pieces to poke through or did you leave it covered? I have a spare Squier P-bass pickup I'll maybe try it with first.

Think after the additional comments it might be Hotcovers. The price works out about the same give or take £5.

[quote name='Meddle' timestamp='1500454186' post='3337810'] Do it yourself. I bought an empty MM pickup shell from EBay. I trimmed down the flatwork of a P pickup and epoxied it into the cover. It worked perfectly! [/quote] Ha ha, that was my original question. Good to know it can be done. What did you use to trim it down and did you cover the windings in tape to protect from dust?

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1500377996' post='3337275'] Well, it says 'double splitcoil', so I'd think so. Contact Delano - I've done it before, and they were very helpful. [/quote] Cool, was just checking before I give them a shout. [quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1500378961' post='3337281'] Am I the only one thinking 'why not beg/borrow or steal' or even buy a P bass? If you want the tone you haven't got to pay a whole lot. Pickup position is pretty crucial. [/quote] I have two P-basses already, just wanted a similar tone in this bass since it's being rebuilt.

[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1500319552' post='3336943'] Those quad coil pickups don't come cheap [/quote] True. Does anyone know if this pickup would do the same as the Bartolini? https://reverb.com/item/1335191-delano-mc4-he-m2-4-string-musicman-size-quad-coil-pickup EDIT: Delano link not working for some reason.

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1500296016' post='3336716'] Hokay: firstly, that's a great looking bass - Fenderbirds FTW - but I can't see if the pickup has the MM 'ears' or not - I'm guessing you don't want to start routing. Secondly, if it's already a Kent Armstrong, I'd go with the advice above and contact them to see if they'll rebuild it as a Split-P type: I'm sure they would. Having said that, I can see the Bart pickup allows for split-type both forward and reversed, plus all four coils, with a three-way micro switch. I'd be tempted by that... Position-wise, there's plenty of resources a Google away that'll give you the exact position of a P-pickup. I'd say anywhere within 20mm would be pretty close. It looks quite close judging by the pic. [/quote] Thanks Muzz. I'm getting the body back in the next week or so from being re-finished. Well actually finished as I poorly put a coat of gloss on to protect it. Anyway, I'm hesitant to route it having had it just painted, so a replacement is the only option. The Bart does look a good option and I think my MM is slightly further forward than on a Stingray but don't quote me on that. [quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1500297531' post='3336738'] Andy measured it for when he added a P pickup to my Sterling - the 'sweet spot' is 11.5" from 12th fret to the poles of the E/A string. You can do standard or reverse mounting for the treble side, according to your whim. [/quote] Cool. I'll measure where mine is in relation when I get it back. I'd really like to try the reverse D/G. Am thinking the Bartolini is maybe the way to go judging by the switching options. Just wondering if I could have the coils wired to push/push pots on the volume and tone pots. This way I could select standard, reverse P-bass configs along with full front and full rear.

Cheers for the replies [quote name='ikay' timestamp='1500284201' post='3336615'] One of these maybe? - [url="https://www.bartolini.net/product-tag/quad-coil-splittable/"]https://www.bartolin...oil-splittable/[/url] [/quote] That was the one! Thanks. [quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1500287810' post='3336641'] I'm sure there's any number of pickup companies that would build you a split-coil into a MM casing. That would probably be the 'cheap' option, the Enfield pickup is a good shout for lots of options (I'd probably go that route if that was my bass). Any particular reason you want a split coil sound in that position rather than a humbucker? It would sound like a Precision due to positioning, so might be a bit of a pointless exercise? Si [/quote] I just prefer a P-bass tone. That said if the location will be an issue to tone then it brings up the question of what will get me in the ballpark while still staying passive?