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Hi there, I had my mind all made up to buy the Marshall MB450H amp with the MBC410 cab. Today, I had to lift a box weighing 40kg. It was so heavy! Even with 2 people we struggled, and this is how much the Marshall cab weighs. So immediately thats now out of the picture, and I have to start again from square one... Well maybe not exactly square one; I've decided whatever cab I get, it has to be under 30kg (70lbs). I've also got my eye on the Hartke LH500 with the Hartke HX410 cab. Does this sound like a sensible option? I play in a heavy 5-piece rock band, and I play a lot of slap, but portability of the cab is a must. These new HyDrive cabs are lighter than the regular ones, and have casters, but unfortunately this comes at a price. I would have to save up a fair bit for it. Then, once i've saved up even more, I would buy either another Hartke HX410 for it, or get the Hartke HX115, to release the full 500W of the amp. (Just out of curiosity, how many watts would I get from the amp if I use one cab?) Any other amp/cab suggestions welcome, but please don't continually bring up brands like Mark Bass, Trace Elliot, Eden Nemesis etc because they are too expensive! Many Thanks, Josh

[quote name='alexclaber' post='170800' date='Apr 6 2008, 04:39 PM']Or is it his parents' dosh? The Laney B1 was discontinued quite a few years back but is one of the best bass heads to ever come from a UK manufacturer. Marshall may be the name amongst guitarists but apart from a few exceptions they have a unique talent for missing the mark with their bass gear, hence if you do buy something new from them you'll lose a ton when you come to sell it on (which no doubt you will, I don't know of any bassist that has hung onto every bit of gear they've ever bought...) Also unless we're living in a different country, you can't drive a car legally until you're 17 so portability remains important. A decent head and a decent 4x10" is all you need. The key word is decent - for your budget you will do far better buying used. FAR BETTER! And if you buy something off one of the noble ladies and gentleman here you are highly unlikely to be screwed. Look in the classifieds forums, there's quite a turnover of gear in there. Now you can ignore everything I've written, buy an oversized overpriced stack, and I can have a good laugh in a year's time when you realise we were right all along. Alex[/quote] lol hmm ur starting to win me over the stack (or half-stack) will basically be a present for be if i do well in gcse's. I just dont really like buying second hand because i have had quite a few bad experiences when it comes to 2nd hand music gear. i bought a second hand bass - one of the tuning knobs was completely nackerd. bought an effects pedal - the footswitch was split and the rubber on the base was peeling. i also bought a practice bass amp and the imput jack for active bass was really crackly. i guess im just against 2nd hand stuff cos u cant try it before hand and u got no comeback - and its still a lot of money if u think about it. but i'll have a look and see whats sellin

hmm, i hear what your saying, but with the sole 4x10 cab, the head only puts out 300W, instead of 450W. if what your saying about the 1x15 cab is true, how comes people still buy them?

Marshall MB450H Marshall MBC410

ah that post is very helpful. i've searched and i cant seem to find the Laney B1 head anywhere - its not even on their website. i kinda figured, because the 4x10 cabinet would carry the mids-highs, i needed the 1x15 to fill out the low end, but ur saying that the extra cab made no difference? i think i'll have to try both cabs out in the shop (having 2 4x10 cabs seems a bit much for me, cos im only 15) PS. do you have any more pics of ur marshall stack? if u do id love to see them! cheers

YES! I emailed kissmybASS01 (talkbass forums), and he has sent me some pictures of his rig. with his permission, ive posted them up here... feel free to comment. Courtesy of kissmybASS01: Finally some pics! What do we think?? I think i like...

sorry! lol all im saying is i dont want second hand stuff... sorry if i offended u

lol im not really big on selling stuff anyway, i tend to just keep all my old stuff. besides the cabs arnt that hard to lug around. just chuck it in the boot of the car - job done. at least when you buy something new, you have a shop warranty on it, and u know its in perfect condition, cos who knows what the other person had done to it. he could have spilt coffee on one of the speakers, but since there are 4 speakers you would probably never know

lol im not a professional or anything. i just want something big and loud to be heard in a funk rock band, and this marshall looks like it can do the job

hmm well i definitly want a new amp, and i play mainly slap. im gonna definitly try it out in the shop before hand

im getting these for the same reason you want yours: Marshall MB450H Bass Amplifier Head £230 - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3178"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=3178[/url] Marshall MBC410 Bass Cabinet £200 - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3180"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=3180[/url] Marshall MBC115 Bass Cabinet £150 - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3179"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=3179[/url] Total Price = £580

can anyone post up any pics of the new Marshall MB range? cheers

for pubs and clubs, i would go for either: Warwick Sweet 25.1 Fender Bassman 250/210 Peavey TNT115 Marshall MB4410

lol, u'd think there are a lot of shops - which there are, but hardly any do the amps i've looked at. and i've looked at a lot. people love the marshall amp, and i know where i can try it out, and they have cheap prices too. i dont want to keep introducing more and more amps, its just painful lol. i must hav looked at at least 50 by now. im pretty settled on the marshall, provided i like it when i play it. i dont think i'm gonna bother trying out the ashdown

well after much research and discussion (on other forums), it definitely seems like the Marshall rig is the one to go for! I'll buy the head and the 4x10 cab first, as thats all i can affort at the moment, then buy the 1x15 cab at a later date. I absolutely cant wait!!

no sorry id rather just stick to my options listed in my first post thanks

also do you know if the Marshall MB450H head has a clipping light or something? because i cant see one

I was thinking of buying the Marshall 450w combo (with the 1x15 cab), but its 53kg! too heavy! So instead i will probably go for them all seperately - the 450w head, 600w 4x10 cab, and the 300w 1x15 cab. its annoying because if you get the combo (which is pretty much just the speakers and head built in) its £100 cheaper

nah sorry, id rather just stick to my 2 options above. either the marshall stack or the ashdown stack. im leaning way more towards the marshall, people say it sounds a lot louder and clearer

is obbm a shop?

[quote name='David Nimrod' post='168857' date='Apr 3 2008, 08:07 AM']Buy secondhand Ashdown ABM gear... Get a ABM500 Head and a 4 x 10" cab. Then buy another 4 x 10" cab or a 1 x 15" cab later for the full 575 watts [/quote] sounds like a good idea, but i'd rather get something new and not second hand. besides, where i live, its hard enough trying to find it in a shop let alone used

Hi guys, Just got a few quick questions to ask about this Marshall stack: Marshall MB450H Bass Amplifier Head - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3178"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=3178[/url] Marshall MBC410 Bass Cabinet - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3180"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=3180[/url] Marshall MBC115 Bass Cabinet - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3179"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=3179[/url] Basically, will these all work together? And is it possible for me to just use the 4x10 cab by its self without damaging it? And do you know if there are any wheels to put on the 4x10 cab cos it looks pretty heavy! I'm either gonna get ^that^ Marshall stack, or this Ashdown stack: Ashdown MAG 300H Bass Amplifier Head - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=1633"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=1633[/url] Ashdown MAG 410T Deep Bass Cabinet - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=1629"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=1629[/url] Ashdown MAG 115 Deep Bass Cabinet - [url="http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=1627"]http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=...amp;prodid=1627[/url] I'll have to try them both out and see which sounds best:bassist: