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im adding in that im also open for trades aswell with this

Great fuzz from walrus, sounds killer on bass. 
 

New pickup day 

dimarzio will power 

1 hour ago, pantherairsoft said:

It's been nearly a month since I posted a pic of my board and I've not thought about buying another pedal once. I think this may be a new record!

have you had a bump to the head?

6 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

 

Hopefully you told him to go shag himself and leave his job to someone actually qualified for it, or he could expect to have his face rearranged to match his brain capacity, so that no one would ever mistake him for not having a deformed brain and not being a dim wit again.

 

I luckily have only had good experiences with sound guys who actually understood what they were doing and had respect for the sound of the bands I was playing in.

 

But damn, these stories makes me furious! 

 

Why would anyone take a job where other people were dependent on your qualification, when they are absolutely clueless about how to execute it properly? 

 

 

 

this i have no idea why some sound guys feel the need to make a band sound how they want, they should take in how the band sound and go from there make suggestions if needed, ive had sound men try and take a di straight from my basssaying they like a clean signal ( i use a big pedalboard) and then had one guy just help him self changing amp eq and pedal settings.

for me ir wont sound like they do in headphones but sending that to a foh will sound better than a harsh di and also the venues who will mic any guitar amp they see yet scream and run from putting one on a bass.

its also to be said ive seen people turn up and want to use the exact sound threy recorded with.....this 90%of the time wont work either

Just now, warwickhunt said:

 

Hmmmm.  

 

A - I can't see an in house engineer being to happy that he is redundant.

B - Can the band envisage that they can mix the sound for every venue effectively and deal with any issues arising in real time etc because the FOH SE will only be able to turn you up/down or effect the whole band mix with EQing.  

 

If you are talking about the band having a splitter so that they have an in/out/thru for each channel; they control IE sound/mix and send an identical signal of each input to the FOH that might make sense.

 

plenty shows ive been to and played the headline band has had there own sound guy, who either runs the inhouse rig or will plug into the pa themselves the first thing is much more common as you can find out the desk and talk abou t this in advance.

the band mixing themsleves if they know what they are doing is totally fine, when you go see a bigger show or tour one SE will not mix the whole show each band will have there own

2 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

 

Are you talking about your band controls / sets the mix and then you give the FOH/SE a L&R send?  

think he basically saying they mix themselves and yeh plug into the pa so the in house guy doesnt need to do anything

5 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

The biggest improvement I have ever made to any of my bands' live sound was for us to have our own sound engineer. He was essentially a 5th member of the band, came to all the rehearsals and often to the programming and writing sessions so he had a complete understanding of what all the instruments were doing in every song. So when the mix wasn't quite right he could tell instantly which instrument was missing or causing the problem and immediately adjust it accordingly. 

 

very true, were its also important to be able to mix yourself on stage a bit aswell, but agree a usless SE is a waste of time.

1 minute ago, BigRedX said:

The important thing is can anyone tell the difference between a real cab properly mic'd, an IR and a decent EQ when the bass is placed in the context of an overall band mix either live or in the recording studio?

joe public couldnt tel the difference between an svt, abm or a darkglass head...tbh

its down to feel and how it lets me play, i always try to match ir to the amp and rig i play, in the mix i just want it to sound good, but if its what im hearing it needs to be what i want, however im def advise the sound guy on how to layer the signals i send (Sub, Synth and amp di) also if i send them a ir'd and treated di ive not yet had an upset sound guy.

however im not trying to make a 112 sound like a 215, im trying to get the sound of my 215 into the pa.

im gonna start using iem probs towards the end of the year, and for that the ir's (for me two notes) work the best for me

9 hours ago, LukeFRC said:

 

though interestingly these aren't IR's ... they literally are EQ curves....

 

 

I bought a multiFX pedal (Zoom B3, then Zoom B3n then HXstomp) mainly as I played at a church and odd things would happen on the digital desk. Part of my way of solving this was to give them a signal that approximated the response of a bass cab with the top and bottom trimmed... 

 

The Zoom things were really nice, but the HXstomp got into IRs and... I tried them for a long time but couldn't make them work for me. 
To my ears IR's sound amazing on electric guitar and do lovely things to the tone. The HX stomp is utterly amazing on electric. 
For bass though the sound of a speaker cab recorded through a mic just felt odd, like there was a blanket thrown over something, or some thing in the phase in the mids or there was latentency I was playing against or something (NB I have no idea what it was) - and I always preferred using no IR or cab sim and just a HPF, LPF. 

@warwickhunt - you would be able to test it, if you load a blank IR into your NUX and just use the HPF/LPF on the editor

I think it’s down to finding the right ir 

I love someone micing up a cab, but it’s not always practical 

At the min I only use ir for home recording but am gonna add it to my live di to help it

3 hours ago, warwickhunt said:

 

BBE Acoustimax / NuX MLD / Tech Para / Tech (original DI) / Fishman Platinum Pro

 

BBE - 'technically' for acoustic instruments and has a Sonic Maximizer built in but works great for electric bass but no drive

NuX - drive/OD and IR but I found it overkill for me, even when dialled back

Tech Para - upgrade to the Tech DI that I had but tbh I found that without some of the options engaged it was a bit weak but with them on it was too full and I needed to EQ it a lot

Tech DI - my original back up incase my amp was to die but in fact my choice for pre amp to desk and IEM

Fishman pro - The least coloured pre and very useable EQ that isn't excessive, no drive option; I'll keep this as the EQ can be switched for my acoustic guitar

Are you trying to match them to a cab you have? I have the same sound in the speaker as your di? 
 

The only way for that is ir and something like a two notes cabm+

6 minutes ago, alexa3020 said:

Will defo check out some IR capturing  vids thanks.

In my case, I now have a much clearer (more accurate I guess) cabinet. and while I can hear myself much better, it sounds quite sterile when flat. I do have to eq it significantly differently in comparison to my original cab.

It did get me thinking should I be using some sort of cab simulation instead.

if your using a frfr its a totally different thing to a normal cab

3 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

You are touching on something that I've been experiencing this past year as I've investigated the move to silent stages and IEM.

 

At times, some of the DI / pre pedals that I've used have had IRs / cab sims in them but I've ended up disappointed that all they seem to offer is a bit of a wooly blanket EQ to the tone of the bass/pedal.  Our guitar player is a fan-boy of all things IR etc and he is forever trying to convince me that cab sims etc are what I 'need'... when I've personally felt that maybe the units that have these cab sims/IRs to add to the tone are maybe just not a very good EQ BEFORE the sims are EQd over them (if that makes sense).  I've ended up just using a DI/pre with zero cab sim/IR and EQing my IEM to suit the lack of cab.  

 

what Pre amps shave you been using? its taken me a while but my current direct setup is a blend of three di ( geddy 2112 and ashdown ctm rack pre) three channels into two notes wall of sound for recording, if i want a silent stage i use a two notes captor on my amps out put (its a peavey 200w) im careful and its fine.

also if you play clean without drive or fuzz you could be fine as you are. ir shine when distortion is involved

the problem with trying to do this with an actually amp is the (Eq/cab IR) needs to come after the power section to have the proper effect, something very easy to do in the box on a mac or in helix,QC or kemper however i know of no EQ that can take the power of an amp.

for me sending an amp into a powered frfr speaker is also a bad idea as they are powered so obvioous issues there if going into an frfr there so many good pre amps now which have an emulated out that you caould send into something like this.

1 minute ago, BigRedX said:

Standard jack normalised patch bay? How are the connections made at the back? Hardwired or jack sockets?

 

Personally I wouldn't risk it. There's always the chance that you'll plug in something inappropriate, or you'll create a short with half-inserted plugs.

 

If you want the connections in an accessible place use a single row blank patch panel and populate it with Speakon connectors and label them clearly. Then use appropriate cables to make up all the connections.

this is what i think im gonna have to do speakons and then hardwired leads out the back

Would all be lower than 200w so can have these hooked up into the patch bay and move the two notes between them when needed.

Dod will get you very close, wouldnt try putting it thru iems tho, would either distort or pop them, if its going to a pa you will feel the subs.

2 hours ago, Dazed said:

I like that. Cool Neck and have a growing thing for non stock pickups on fender basses. How does the tbird pickup compare to other brands similar ones?

Tbh honest I’ve only played one other thunderbird pickup and that was years ago in an epi t bird, the Avedissian is a great pickup punchy and aggressive, hopefully be able to shout about the other replacement early next week 

want to put my amps at home in to a patch bay so i can quickly go between them, both for input and output and send them to my two notes captor or other load box down the line.

will a standard trs patch bay take the load?

i also have a new pick on the way to replace the neck jazz pick up

first gig with it last night

6 hours ago, mrtcat said:

I'd have this if I was going to be anywhere near the South West in the near future.

 

i am happy to post it for a little extra

1 minute ago, BillyBass said:

The management leave lines of Charlie on the PA for you?  How thoughtful.  We only get free soft drinks at our gigs.

hahaha!

theres the actual rig lets just say i make up for the guitarists being kemper and QC........they do have powdered cabs on stage tho so.......love the 215's!

Mk 4 decided to crap it’s pants after the sound check had to grab the old school bass 400 series head. 
 

but rig sounded killer