AI in music

[TimR]

51 minutes ago, Uncle Rodney said:

Just a different view, perhaps. I had this discussion with our drummer. I said to him - you are from a different culture than me, and me from you. The singer has his own culture, it's us in this rehearsal room who then brings these different cultures togther and we play our music as one. I will learn vibes from your culture and you from me. AI can never do that.

 

It's the new world order. We all become one assimilated culture all speaking the same language, living by the same rules, using the same currency, eating the same food.

 

I think there's a book about it. 

[EliasMooseblaster]

It doesn't help that "AI" has become a catch-all term for asking a large language model or neural network to carry out a task, and I suspect this obfuscation is deliberate.

 

Still, there's obviously a world of difference between people using one of these models to help with an awkward task (e.g., sort out the phase on these tracks, separate these tracks I accidentally bounced) and the people who put a prompt into Suno, get a three-minute pop song back out and start squealing "OMG I done a music!"

 

To that latter group: I read somewhere about a teacher who refused to read AI-generated essays from their students, saying "if you couldn't be bothered to write it, why should I bother to read it?" Personally, I feel the same way about AI-generated songs.

[Al Krow]

If, for example, AI had written At Last for Etta James to sing or Can't help falling in love performed by Elvis, would we have listened?

 

Will the audience care who wrote the song if hearing it gives them joy?

 

Or is it just taking us back to the time pre Beatles when 95% (I'm guessing here!) of leading performers had their song material provided for them? And 100% of covers and tribute bands do today.

 

Is the situation different to Henry Ford inventing the production line and taking work away from skilled workers who could put a whole engine together from scratch?

[chris_b]

8 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said:

. . . .  I read somewhere about a teacher who refused to read AI-generated essays from their students, saying "if you couldn't be bothered to write it, why should I bother to read it?"

 

 

A major university in London started to move towards course work instead of sitting exams. Now they're moving back to the exam room due to the amount of AI students were submitting as their own work!! We're also seeing smart watches being used for cheating in exams, alongside multiple phones secreted in socks and anywhere else they can think of. I guess technology has always been used for cheating, but these days it's being used by students on an industrial scale. AI is a powerful tool for good and bad, depending on the person using it.

[Al Krow]

Just now, chris_b said:

 

A major university in London started to move towards course work instead of sitting exams. Now they're moving back to the exam room due to the amount of AI students were submitting as their own work!! We're also seeing smart watches being used for cheating in exams, alongside multiple phones secreted in socks and anywhere else they can think of. I guess technology has always been used for cheating, but these days it's being used by students on an industrial scale. AI is a powerful tool for good and bad, depending on the person using it.

 

100% 

 

And the parallel is that AI can't fake a live performance by a human band, which is what audiences want. They can already listen to a Jukebox if they wanted.

 

So whilst I fear for the future of the aspiring song writer in my band, who's working on his 4th album, I'm very glad we can be out at gigs each week doing something we love.