Cato Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago My first thought when I saw the clip was that , if true, he's certainly not the first musician who's been unable to reproduce a song or parts of a song exactly like the recording live. Although in the examples in the Sapko clip it's not clear if the recording vs live examples are even supposed to be the same piece, so it doesn't really prove anything. Quote
tegs07 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Before basschat I had never heard of the guy. Now I have and I have watched his channel and Youtube just keeps feeding me more. He has obviously found a winning formula. If he is making a living from it then good luck to him. Is the content any good? Personally this TikTok style, short clip, grab my attention and move quickly onto something new and shiny does my head in. It’s just so completely inane and ridiculous. I suspect my parents thought the same about whatever rubbish I was watching in the ‘80s. Edited 1 hour ago by tegs07 Quote
BigRedX Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago In the studio stitch together my guitar, bass and keyboard parts all the time. Live it doesn't matter if I play some bum notes or the timing and/or pitch of a few notes is too loose, it's all over in the next instant, never to be heard again, and besides the energy of the gig normally overshadows any errors. If it's being recorded for people to listen to over and over again I want it to be without mistakes. That doesn't mean quantised and autotuned to "perfection". I simply want what is committed to tape or DAW to match what I hear in my head when I'm playing it so that I, and other people, can enjoy listening to the song without noticing any errors. If that means dropping in to correct dodgy phrases or individual notes so be it. I recently discovered when recording an 8 bar riff for a song that my timing was a lot better for the last 2 to 3 bars of the riff than it was for the first few. Therefore I played each bar 16 times in succession and used the best 3-4 bars from each take, usually from the second half) to assemble enough instances of the riff to use throughout the song, so that each time to riff come in it has the correct feel but each instance is subtly different. For me it's all about getting the right sounding end result. Getting there in a single take is not even remotely important to me. Quote
TimR Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Cato said: All seems a bit more tenuous than the Giacomo plagiarism stuff to me but 'calling people out' seems to be a popular genre on social media these days. He does cover that aspect in the SBL podcast. He seemed genuinely concerned about exposing someone wrongly, whether he was doing the right thing, and checking and double checking the facts over several days. Quote
TimR Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, BigRedX said: In the studio stitch together my guitar, bass and keyboard parts all the time. Live it doesn't matter if I play some bum notes or the timing and/or pitch of a few notes is too loose, it's all over in the next instant, never to be heard again, and besides the energy of the gig normally overshadows any errors. If it's being recorded for people to listen to over and over again I want it to be without mistakes. That doesn't mean quantised and autotuned to "perfection". I simply want what is committed to tape or DAW to match what I hear in my head when I'm playing it so that I, and other people, can enjoy listening to the song without noticing any errors. If that means dropping in to correct dodgy phrases or individual notes so be it. I recently discovered when recording an 8 bar riff for a song that my timing was a lot better for the last 2 to 3 bars of the riff than it was for the first few. Therefore I played each bar 16 times in succession and used the best 3-4 bars from each take, usually from the second half) to assemble enough instances of the riff to use throughout the song, so that each time to riff come in it has the correct feel but each instance is subtly different. For me it's all about getting the right sounding end result. Getting there in a single take is not even remotely important to me. That gets very expensive very quickly. Fine if it's your own money, but the record companies aren't going to live with that if it's taking months to record an album. Quote
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