PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hey, I run an Ashdown MAG300H through a MAG 410T and a MAG 210T. At first the whole amp was serving me well, but now its not doing too well. I want some Gain in my sound. I've tweaked with the settings til' my heart's content and still cant find a 'Gainy' sound. My bass is a Fender American Standard Jazz Bass by the way and have a Boss ODB-3, Boss BF-3 and Artec Big Dots Tuner. Do you think replacing my MAG300H for an Ampeg SVT-450H will fix my problem or should I get something like the SansAmp RBI? I suck with amps. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Not sure what you mean by 'Gain'? More distorted? More compressed? (I notice you're not running an external compressor in that chain). Louder (or apparently louder)? An ampeg will give a bit of a different tone compared to your mag and may be marginally louder. A sansamp will help to add some different color to your tone. You may also get a different sort of tone by running your ODB3 with more distortion and / or output, your amp input gain lower and your output volume higher. Sometimes, if it's a certain sound you're after, it may be other components in the chain that need changing, such as the bass, the pedals or the cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sorry, when I mean gain, I mean the SVT kind of sound. I've been looking at the VT Bass. Apparently you can get some great clean and distorted SVT sounds from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Going from the MAG to an Ampeg 450H probably won't solve the problem as they're both solid state amps. If you're already using Ashdown cabs why not get a used Ashdown ABM head? That'll get you closer to the sound you're after due to the valve preamp. They go very cheaply on Ebay & I dare say they turn up for sale on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Yeah, i was thinking about upgrading. Thing is, I still won't get that SVT sound I want. I'm really interested in buying the VT Bass pedal though. When I get a bit more money I might upgrade to a ABM head... not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 What about this then: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48322"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48322[/url] That's a great price for an SVT3 Pro - that'll definately give you the sound you're after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Problem is I dont have £400 at the moment. I NEVER have money when theres a good deal ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='PunkRockBass' post='486401' date='May 12 2009, 09:29 PM']Problem is I dont have £400 at the moment. I NEVER have money when theres a good deal ha.[/quote] No, me neither - it's a bastard, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='RhysP' post='486405' date='May 12 2009, 09:32 PM']No, me neither - it's a bastard, isn't it?[/quote] Yup! And then, you buy something, and the next week theres another great offer! Oh well, thats life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Right, let's find you some serious tone for f*** all money - have a look at this: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartke-Bass-Attack-the-UK-Sansamp_W0QQitemZ180353552183QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item180353552183&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartke-Bass-Attack-t...93%3A1|294%3A50[/url] & here's a review of it from bass player magazine which says it'll do a decent SVT sound: [url="http://www.bassplayer.com/article/hartke-bass-attack/may-05/8580"]http://www.bassplayer.com/article/hartke-b...ack/may-05/8580[/url] Edited May 12, 2009 by RhysP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='RhysP' post='486413' date='May 12 2009, 09:40 PM']Right, let's find you some serious tone for f*** all money - have a look at this: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartke-Bass-Attack-the-UK-Sansamp_W0QQitemZ180353552183QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item180353552183&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartke-Bass-Attack-t...93%3A1|294%3A50[/url] & here's a review of it from bass player magazine which says it'll do a decent SVT sound: [url="http://www.bassplayer.com/article/hartke-bass-attack/may-05/8580"]http://www.bassplayer.com/article/hartke-b...ack/may-05/8580[/url][/quote] Ha thanks, but im okay. I'm gonna wait till I get some money (next month) and have a look EVERYWHERE for a sh*t cheap Ampeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Saving up for a secondhand Ampeg is your best move - if you want the SVT sound you won't be happy with anything other than an Ampeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='RhysP' post='486421' date='May 12 2009, 09:47 PM']Saving up for a secondhand Ampeg is your best move - if you want the SVT sound you won't be happy with anything other than an Ampeg.[/quote] Will an Ampeg still sound great through my MAG cabs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='PunkRockBass' post='486432' date='May 12 2009, 09:58 PM']Will an Ampeg still sound great through my MAG cabs?[/quote] Should do, my Ampeg sounds fantastic through my ABM 4x10 and MAG 1x15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='486437' date='May 12 2009, 10:03 PM']Should do, my Ampeg sounds fantastic through my ABM 4x10 and MAG 1x15.[/quote] Awesome =] Thankss! Now I just need to find an Ampeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 How far are you pushing the preamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Protium' post='486459' date='May 12 2009, 10:26 PM']How far are you pushing the preamp?[/quote] Whatttt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='PunkRockBass' post='487117' date='May 13 2009, 06:25 PM']Whatttt?[/quote] OK... Rephrase: How high do you set the input volume (preamp control) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Protium' post='487122' date='May 13 2009, 06:32 PM']OK... Rephrase: How high do you set the input volume (preamp control)[/quote] That depends on where I'm playing. Most of the time like, between quarter to and half past, if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='PunkRockBass' post='487146' date='May 13 2009, 07:00 PM']That depends on where I'm playing. Most of the time like, between quarter to and half past, if that makes sense.[/quote] Not really, as a "half past" position is not possible on the control Try setting the input a little higher, use your ears not the VU. It may sound crap but worth a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Protium' post='487159' date='May 13 2009, 07:10 PM']Not really, as a "half past" position is not possible on the control Try setting the input a little higher, use your ears not the VU. It may sound crap but worth a go.[/quote] ha sorry i meant 12 o'clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 If you like the Ashdown then get upgrade to an [url="http://www.ashdownmusic.com/bass/section.asp?section=abm"]ABM[/url] - has a valve preamp which will give a nice natural gain. Clipping the preamp on the MAG won't sound too good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRockBass Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 [quote name='Machines' post='487172' date='May 13 2009, 07:18 PM']If you like the Ashdown then get upgrade to an [url="http://www.ashdownmusic.com/bass/section.asp?section=abm"]ABM[/url] - has a valve preamp which will give a nice natural gain. Clipping the preamp on the MAG won't sound too good.[/quote] Yeah, I could use my Birthday money next month and sell my MAG300H for an ABM500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappygarry Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 The sound your brains and ears want to hear is an Ampeg. Put your pennies away and wait. Spend wise and spend once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Or go out and test out as much gear as you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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