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I often listen to this piece from Yoshihiro Naruse's 1981 'Mythique' album. At 00:11 seconds the keys player comes in with a really funky sound that reminds me of the Hohner Clavinet Model C, as used by Stevie Wonder on 'Superstition'. I don't profess to be an expert on that variety of instruments from that era and I'd like to know exactly what they used here on the track so I thought the seasoned listeners here could say whether or not in right in my guess (as your keys playing friends too, if you like). 

 

For us bass lads, you may be interested to know that the bass track was recorded on a fretless Alembic Distillate bass, and surely must be one of the first recorded instances of slapping on a fretless bass. 

 

 

 

 

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Now I'm not any sort of Clavinet specialist at all, but my guess is that not even the specialists would be able to hear the difference between say a C and a D6, seeing as the Clavinet sound in this song has been through processing and is mellowed.

FWIW, to me it sounds like the real deal at least - - not a Clavinet emulation on a Fairlight CMI or the like, but I guess you were already sure of that aspect.

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I definitely think it's a Clavinet and I'm glad you do too because that makes me a little more certain. One of those sounds, a bit like a Rhodes, that is great in a contemporary setting but you couldn't really use it everywhere. 

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I remember this album and there are some decent tracks on it.

 

You are both wrong regarding the Clavinet, though. . It was a 'Clabinet'...It says so on the below attachment, along with an an amazing list of top named musicians on this track. **

The Clabinet was an upmarket Clavinet that was housed in a stunning teak case.

:D

 

 

 

I do remember reading somewhere that it was defiantly a Clavinet, and it certainly sounds like it is (under the FX/processing).

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Chris2112 said:

I definitely think it's a Clavinet and I'm glad you do too because that makes me a little more certain. One of those sounds, a bit like a Rhodes, that is great in a contemporary setting but you couldn't really use it everywhere. 


I'm struggling with the English a bit - both yours and mine, so just for clarity's sake:
I'm 100% certain it sounds exactly like a real Clavinet that went through a stereo phaser or something similar (not that well-versed re that type of equipment), and while its sound lacks some of the overtones, it's still easily recognisable.
What I am not sure about is whether one could emulate this sound on a CMI to this quality. However, that's not really important, as for all practical purposes, it's THE Clavinet sound.

Your mentioning the C model made me think you meant it may sound like a C as opposed to sounding like a D6, but right now I'm starting to feel you more meant: a Clavinet as opposed to other instruments. In the latter case: there's no doubt whatsoever that this either is or sounds exactly like a real Clavinet. None of the other physical instruments of the era come close (but emulations might).

The D6 model had stops of sorts, but I don't remember the specifics. I'm guessing the D6 was a response to other electric and electronic piano and harpsichord type instruments which had those.
(Me, I had an electric Rhodes as well as an electronic Elka (at least I think it was an Elka), and by using the stops on the latter, and an effect pedal, one could emulate the role of the Clavinet though not its exact sound.)


Yeah, they're great instruments, and I love how many people use them today. Just a few days ago I also heard a Wurlitzer electric in a modern track.
Same with the real tonewheel Hammonds. They still sound fantastic, and everyone and their granny use them to this day. Here in Norway, a revised old B3 or the like sets you back ten grand or more. 😱

 

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2 hours ago, lowdown said:

I remember this album and there are some decent tracks on it.

 

You are both wrong regarding the Clavinet, though. . It was a 'Clabinet'...It says so on the below attachment, along with an an amazing list of top named musicians on this track. **

:D

 

 

 

I do remember reading somewhere that it was defiantly a Clavinet, and it certainly sounds like it is (under the FX/processing).

 

 

 

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Haha, that's luvverly.
Thanks for setting us straight! 😄

Someone also played a Korg SP-3200 on that track.
I think it must have been the only one in existence: possibly a custom PS-3200, factory-modded for Left-Hand Traffic. 😉

(and BTW, the Soloist was indeed the ARP that predated the ARP Pro Soloist. 😄 )


 

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1 hour ago, BassTractor said:




Someone also played a Korg SP-3200 on that track.
I think it must have been the only one in existence: possibly a custom PS-3200, factory-modded for Left-Hand Traffic.

 

 

  Ah, okay, thanks for that info. I thought it was a mistake on my above screenshot, and should have read Korg PS-3200, and not Korg SP-3200.

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14 minutes ago, lowdown said:

 

  Ah, okay, thanks for that info. I thought it was a mistake on my above screenshot, and should have read Korg PS-3200, and not Korg SP-3200.


😀
What went wrong? That's exactly what I meant; just worded as if it wasn't a mistake. I thought the Left-Handed Traffic made that clear.
See, I was just kidding with all the mistakes, also as if some persons were not playing solos but ARP Soloists.

Oh, I see now: I'd forgotten to use a winky there.
Sorry about that.

 

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Oh, I see now: I'd forgotten to use a winky there.
Sorry about that.

 

 

👍:D

 

Below is a video of the Left-Hand (knob twiddling) Traffic in action.

Also, it looks like Korg used the same Teak as Hohner used in their production of the upmarket Clabinet:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, lowdown said:

 

👍:D

 

Below is a video of the Left-Hand (knob twiddling) Traffic in action.

Also, it looks like Korg used the same Teak as Hohner used in their production of the upmarket Clabinet:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could watch stuff like this all day.

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