JDM Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Has anyone any idea as to how he produce that raw throaty dry sound as featured in most of the bands early offerings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 turn your treble up, if you mean the sound on toiler on the sea and stuff you will need to rip your speaker cones so they flap a bit. Imnot joking. great bass player though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) A fresh set of roundwounds on a precision played through a hiwatt 200W valve amp into a guitar 4x12 that you've half-f*cked (cones flapping around slightly would be nice) Beaten to it... Edited February 11, 2009 by Stewart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 You need to get a drummer who used to be an ice cream man as well.Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 You could start with a Shuker JJ Burnel P bass [url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/jjburnel.htm"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/jjburnel.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 JJ Burnel has got such a great tone, one of my favourite rock bass tones ever... gritty as hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Thought Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes, his early sound is apparently down to playing through a guitar cab with a torn speaker. I think by the Black and White era he had a few more quid and probably had decent amplification. He's used all sorts of stuff over the years, including Trace. Nowadays he's an Ashdown endorsee-recent pics from the current European tour show about four rack-mounted ABMs of some sort (Ashdown labs?), although they might be customs as I don't recognise them, with ABM 4X10's and what I think are 1X 15's or 1X 18's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='Deep Thought' post='407204' date='Feb 12 2009, 01:01 AM']Yes, his early sound is apparently down to playing through a guitar cab with a torn speaker. I think by the Black and White era he had a few more quid and probably had decent amplification. He's used all sorts of stuff over the years, including Trace. Nowadays he's an Ashdown endorsee-recent pics from the current European tour show about four rack-mounted ABMs of some sort (Ashdown labs?), although they might be customs as I don't recognise them, with ABM 4X10's and what I think are 1X 15's or 1X 18's.[/quote] I did not realise you knew him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='OldGit' post='407170' date='Feb 11 2009, 11:57 PM']You could start with a Shuker JJ Burnel P bass [url="http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/jjburnel.htm"]http://www.shukerguitars.co.uk/jjburnel.htm[/url][/quote] I don't think he had one of those in the '70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHUFC BASS Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 The Precision through 4x12 torn speaker thing was used by Geezer Butler on the recording of the very first Black Sabbath album. It sound surprisingly good for rock believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='thisnameistaken' post='407231' date='Feb 12 2009, 02:26 AM']I don't think he had one of those in the '70s.[/quote] No but trying to find what he [b]was[/b] using (two 60's P basses mostly) would be rather harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Thought Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='YouMa' post='407209' date='Feb 12 2009, 01:03 AM']I did not realise you knew him.[/quote] Well, not really, but he has been known to ask my advice.... Somebody mentioned a while ago that they'd built a monster rig for JJ back in the 70's, which nearly blew the doors off the workshop when tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='JDM' post='407140' date='Feb 11 2009, 11:26 PM']Has anyone any idea as to how he produce that raw throaty dry sound as featured in most of the bands early offerings ?[/quote] The nearest I've got (without resorting to ripping speaker cones!) was by using my Precision with a Hartke VXL Bass Attack pedal. Not 100% right, but you can get that trebly gritty sound. The Ashdown James Lomenzo gets close as well - maybe Ashdown should do a JJB signature pedal?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='simon1964' post='407512' date='Feb 12 2009, 12:36 PM']The nearest I've got (without resorting to ripping speaker cones!) was by using my Precision with a Hartke VXL Bass Attack pedal. Not 100% right, but you can get that trebly gritty sound. The Ashdown James Lomenzo gets close as well - maybe Ashdown should do a JJB signature pedal?![/quote] Recommend it to them dude.. if you don't I will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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