nobodysprefect Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 So, I'm an inveterate musical prostitute. That having been said, I LOVE the wacky, idiomatic ways broadway arrangers write basslines. I got a real education in the ditches of musical theatre. I mean, if I weren't broken by my parents, I'd have picked up all I needed for a career at bass before I was 20. A decade and change later, I can listen to cuts of Fame and not want to cut meself. Who else loved musical theatre growing up a muso? What are the most important lessons musical theatre can teach you that are hard to come by without doint it? I'd substitute time, time, time and humility. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDjeFT4F7Cg&[/media] sh*t. My friends and I played that FAR better. Of course, the m*****f***ers went on to study at Sibelius Academy and whatnot. w***ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='nobody's prefect' timestamp='1322876882' post='1457023'] What are the most important lessons musical theatre can teach you that are hard to come by without doint it? [/quote] 1) That written bass lines are not easy to predict, because they've probably been written by someone who has no idea about bass. 2) Stupid time/key signatures WILL appear and you WILL sh!t yourself... expect it and when it happens, keep calm and carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1322933186' post='1457509'] 2) Stupid time/key signatures WILL appear and you WILL sh!t yourself...[/quote] Not in Fame. West Side story - Maybe Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1322934276' post='1457529'] Not in Fame. West Side story - Maybe Garry [/quote] Is West Side Story not a musical these days?! Edited December 3, 2011 by skej21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1322934527' post='1457530'] Is West Side Story not a musical these days?! [/quote] Hey Matt - any relation to Ken Potter ? Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1322935483' post='1457539'] Hey Matt - any relation to Ken Potter ? Garry [/quote] None at all, but I was lucky enough to have lessons with him whilst at college. In fact, he was my first bass tutor How do you know him? Edited December 3, 2011 by skej21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1322935891' post='1457542'] How do you know him? [/quote] I would not say i know him - although i did meet him a few times. I used to spend a lot of time [quite a while back] up in Newcastle. Used to stay with a Guitarist called Paul Carr. So had many drink ups with a lot of the guys that were at Newcastle collage at the time - usually in 'Rockshots' and the 'Broken Doll' Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1322936104' post='1457545'] I would not say i know him - although i did meet him a few times. I used to spend a lot of time [quite a while back] up in Newcastle. Used to stay with a Guitarist called Paul Carr. So had many drink ups with a lot of the guys that were at Newcastle collage at the time - usually in 'Rockshots' and the 'Broken Doll' Garry [/quote] Yeah, he was a good laugh was Ken. Had many a funny story to tell, so I imagine your pub trips were 'interesting' Edited December 3, 2011 by skej21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Only musical I've played was Grease about twenty years ago and I really enjoyed it. It was harder work than I expected although I realise Grease is probably somewhat easier than say West Side Story (and most others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1322939679' post='1457606'] Only musical I've played was Grease about twenty years ago and I really enjoyed it. It was harder work than I expected although I realise Grease is probably somewhat easier than say West Side Story (and most others). [/quote] Grease was the Toto/L.A guys and the level of musicianship that went into the soundtrack was superb (fairly certain it was David Hungate on bass for it and also Mike Porcaro), even though the musical itself really isn't my thing. Likewise, if you listen to the Wiz, Anthony Jackson is all over it like a rash. Amazing bass playing. Not a fan of musicals in general, apart from one, which is West Side Story. It is a masterpiece, a triumph of 20th century music from one of the greatest musical minds of all time as far as I'm concerned! Edited December 4, 2011 by risingson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) [quote name='risingson' timestamp='1322969192' post='1457849'] West Side Story. It is a masterpiece, a triumph of 20th century music from one of the greatest musical minds of all time as far as I'm concerned! [/quote] Have you listened to Dave Grusin's version/Album of West Side story ? Top arranging and playing all round. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xonj84qRk4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xonj84qRk4[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GrTr6KHkdo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GrTr6KHkdo&feature=related[/url] Garry Edited December 4, 2011 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hey Garry wasn't there a West Side album released at around the same time? .... pauses to Google..... Cool, found it "Songs of West Side Story" Worth checking out- maybe not a purist's cup of tea but some great moments. Love the Grusin album. JP/DW swinging like the clappers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithless Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 WOw, thanks for the link, Garry, that Brecker solo is just out of control... And, is that Johnny P on bass? Really cool eitherway... Laimis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Faithless' timestamp='1323001055' post='1458057'] WOw, thanks for the link, Garry, that Brecker solo is just out of control... And, is that Johnny P on bass? Really cool eitherway... Laimis [/quote] Hey Laimis. Complete Musician breakdown here. [url="http://www.grusin.net/west_side_story.htm"]http://www.grusin.net/west_side_story.htm[/url] If you can find 'America' from the same album on Youtube - give it a listen, stonking stuff. John Patitucci swings great on this album. Well worth buying/Downloading. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1322989970' post='1457895'] Have you listened to Dave Grusin's version/Album of West Side story ? Top arranging and playing all round. ... Garry [/quote] Yes, but not for a long while, thanks for posting it up again Garry! Great playing, fantastic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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