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As a result of this thread, I'm heading out to try out some QSC K12/K10's at some point, and I just bought northwing's Bergantino IP112ER to try out further knowing I could shift it on if need be. And I'm still rocking my Acmes, though the B2 looks like it could be supplanted by the Berg IP. Now I wind up looking at preamps a lot more too. Blast you all for GAS...or BASS (Bought Another Sound System)...

[quote name='Wiro' timestamp='1376641762' post='2177126'] When cranking all up to the max the speaker of the IP112ER can be troubled (if you don't use an extention cab). First check is the bass controll on your bass. This one needs to be about neutral on high volumes. Secondly there's a DSP switch at the back of the IP112ER which can be used as a high pass filter. [b]WARNING: First switch the amp off and wait a few seconds before pushing this DSP button![/b] When pushed in it allows some more low frequencies. Officially this is the setting when using an extention cab. It can however also be used stand-alone. The only difference is a bit more bass. [/quote] Thanks mate. I've been noticing no bass boost needed for this cab! Though I think my DSP button settings aren't for one or two cabs...it seems to be pushed in is 'dry' as opposed to 'extension cab' I've seen marked on the back of other IP's. Pushed in seriously reduces the amount of bass on my cab. Which makes sense with what Jim Bergantino said in my email. Molan, how much for a Dove Cage Monique? Or the Rack Mount Monique?

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1376518041' post='2175521'] On further reflection, the EQ on the Monique is not the scalpel like tone control of modern amps, it is more like a broad brush which brings the goodness without trying too hard. Maybe I like it because I cannot seem to mess it up? [/quote] The EQ is stated to be 'non-interactive' - so it's not like e.g. a Fender tone stack, or the Genz Benz Streamliner stuff, etc. If it has a wide enough 'Q' then it'll have a gentle slope and from what I understand most EQ shifts will sound musical. As far as I understand it anyway...I am a relative newbie in this arena and will defer to others' expertise... From the Talkbass Monique thread the 'Bass' knob is centred around 50 Hz-ish, so I guess rolling off the bass knob might well get rid of a fair amount of material around 40 - 60Hz too. I would guess you could make a bass sound a bit anaemic if you cut too much around here. Alex's website has a nice page on this area - [url="http://barefacedbass.com/technical-information/Huge-lows.htm."]http://barefacedbass.../Huge-lows.htm.[/url] Not to get too off topic, but I got a response back from Jim Bergantino re: my question about HPF in the IP112ER. I assume this info will probably extrapolate to other IP's too: 'There is a high pass filter in the IP, but it is on the low side and only there to protect the cab against any ultra low frequencies making their way to the amp. You may want to use a VHPF to adjust your tone, etc. This, along with the limiting is loaded into both the regular and dry settings. The dry setting has no further eq added to the system.' Now, back on topic...I am definitely considering saving up for a Monique...

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1376516889' post='2175483'] Hey Pete, my other cab is an ACME as well! I have not massively noticed that the bass knob/boom issue - my guess is that the DSP of the IP has covered that. I will try and see to it next time i fire it up in anger. Sorry to be less than helpful. [/quote] Hah, we resemble each other in a few ways it would appear... I've emailed Jim Bergantino to ask him too. GAS is a terrible thing...

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1376513320' post='2175400'] I have. It is lush beyond. I am rubbish at explaining sound to cannot give you any of the usual patter about it sounding like [i]this [/i]or [i]that. [/i]It sounds great and it makes me happy. Is it the pre-amp for life? Who knows. Is it the pre-amp for now? Yes. Just in case anyone missed my disclaimer earlier in the thread, the tech issue I was having was NOT due to the Monique after all. [/quote] Thanks. I have just picked up an IP112ER which I am trialling out to see if it works for me or not...been trying quite a few stompbox pres like the Sansamp BDDI, the Aguilar ToneHammer, and even the Zoom MS-60B. Jury's out though I get perfectly workable tones and decent levels from all of them (the Sansamp probably could use a bit more boost but I am using the old version which doesn't have a voltage output selector for the outputs...I also find the Zoom sounds pretty good but is a bit fiddly without having access to all the physical controls in the same way as the Aguilar or the Sansamp....but I digress). The IP112ER puts out a ton of bass in some rooms (me likey...my other cabs are Acmes) and there are times when you need to be able to tame it to stop it from turning into a wall of mush. I have read that the Monique doesn't have any high pass filtering built in (Greenboy forums - Monique thread). I'm assuming the DSP from the IP112ER probably handles that...I think...so all I'd need to know is if the 'Bass' knob on the Monique, when used appropriately, can cut some of the boom whilst maintaining a decent low end. Any thoughts? Thanks again. Pete

Owen, have you tried the Monique with your IP310? If you have, what was it like?

That sounded pretty good - nice work 4 Strings. I'm on the waiting list for a Barefaced too...looking forward to it.

Just sold a Genz Benz Shuttle 9.2 to Arpi - straightforward transaction with a fair few communications. Deal with confidence!

I have Acme cabs (famously low tuned and relatively flat) and a Streamliner head. What comes out is exactly what goes in, one way or another (as long as you EQ the Streamliner correctly and know that 12 o'clock on all the knobs is definitely NOT flat). I bought a Sansamp BDDI secondhand here and have been really enjoying its Ampeg-ness. I've tried it both as a preamp straight into the Streamliner power section (via the effects return, bypassing the Streamliner pre) and as a pedal stomp before the instrument input. Works well either way and gives me exactly what I wanted. I am looking forward to trying out an Aguilar Tone Hammer too. Ability to use different pres + lots of power on tap + flat cab to reproduce faithfully what goes in works for me... Buy a Sansamp BDDI or the new VT DI pedal and I think you'll be sorted.