TimR

It seems strange that anyone should need training in customer service. It really should be a case of treating people the same way that you would expect to be treated yourself. This is something we should all do as a matter of course. All bass players are in the service industry and should treat our clients well, or our bands won't get rebooked. I'm sure we've all been in bands where we've had to keep certain band members away from the client. Surely you employ someone in your business who already has these qualities or has the UK sunk so low that there's noone left. Seems mad to me.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1356622066' post='1911722'] I think 'Just look at alcohol' is precisely what the pro-legalisation people have done. Yes it causes problems, and it's arguably more problematic than most of the recreational drugs that are prohibited, and the prohibition puts users of those drugs in harm's way. The argument for legalisation is that it will put a big hole in the income streams of organised crime, increase the general well-being of drug users, and generally be a much cheaper and more civilised way for society to cope with those who choose to use recreational drugs. It's difficult to see any benefits of prohibition. ... [/quote] I suspect that will be down to the numbers of users you know/knew. Practically every adult in the UK drinks. 4% are addicts, another large percentage are problem drinkers and even more are heavy drinkers. If you license drugs (alcohol is NOT legal, it's licenced) you send a clear message that it's ok. I suspect that instead of 4% addicted to alcohol, that 4% will just be divided up. Drugs use would increase but alcohol use may decrease at the same time. You would just have less alcohol problems but more drugs problems - whether that is good or bad is another question.

Interesting 'jam' night Boxing day. Played one song, with a drummer and guitarist I'd never met other than that the pub was rammed to bursting and the other people playing seemed to be established bands playing prearranged sets. Still a good 'music' night.

Addiction is a compulsion to do something above your normal everyday activities that interrupts them and interferres with your ability to carry them out. Basschat, FaceBook, exercise, music, alcohol, illegal drugs, sex, cigarettes, computer games, pizza. They're all addictive. Some people are strong characters who have highly regulated lives. To them it's easy to control the addictive nature of some of those things. Others, who don't live lives where they havevto be somewhere at a certain time and concentrate hard for a length of time on that task are at risk of distraction and addiction to anything. Regardless of whether the thing they are addicted to is considered harmless in small quantities. This is something the pro drugs people don't understand. Just because you do something and can control your use doesn't mean vast numbers of society in general can. Just look at alcohol.

I assume you don't all have iPhones with built in calendars already.

We're talking about one guy, playing one tune in a pub right?

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1356267883' post='1908524'] ... Rather harder is working out why the other band members (whether or not computer illiterate) seem entirely incapable of referring to said calendar, ... [/quote] In principle it's a cracking idea. In practice though... It works best if you are the only one who adds to it but send out a link occasionally so the others can view it. I have enough problems working out when I'm free let alone keeping another calendar up to date when I'm free. Just add gigs and practices to it, but only after asking other people if they're free first. Don't expect them to remember to add when their granny's 80th birthday party etc is.

Earned? Deserve? I'll agree not to call anyone arrogant this time as it seems to upset people, but, come on, aren't we being a bit precious?

I agree. I would ditch the 15" and just use the Jack. Stand it on end vertically, maybe lean it back a touch, it will look better and sound better. I have a Warwick 211pro that is more than loud enough for most gigs and, if I need it, another one that I stack vertically on top of it. That changes the sound a lot. More bottom end due to coupling and more definition due to the speaker closer to my ears. Does your amp go down to 2ohms? A 4 and an 8 in parallel can be less than 4!

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1356304125' post='1909102'] Not "Working like a n******"? It's a song title and old expression. Not very pc now though. [/quote] Well basschat don't like the n word then.

Not "Working like a n******"? It's a song title and old expression. Not very pc now though.

If it's the Jack 210 you've got the frequency plots are very flat. You may be getting too much top end in your ears. Is that what you mean by twangy? Try putting the 2x10 underneath the 1x15. The coupling you get with two cabs should give natural bass boost anyway. If the cabs are not matched you should also check that they are in phase. First try one cab then plug the other one in you should get a noticeable increase in volume. If not, use a 9v battery and touch the terminals briefly to a speaker lead and note which way the speaker jumps, then repeat for the other cab. It should jump the same way.

[quote name='gub' timestamp='1356250183' post='1908307'] Damn it won't play on my pad , will have to wait until I can get to a big boy ! [/quote] Do a search. timegrinder has put the whole series on youtube and they're viewable on mobile devices. Here's part1 of the bass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81N_fMNVFzw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The rhythm one is very good. I think it covers Stevie Wonder's Superstition.

[quote name='Mikey R' timestamp='1356088336' post='1906606'] ... You play music, you meet odd people - its part of the fun. ... [/quote] ...and you don't think we're odd?

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1356085266' post='1906535'] ... Even worse when you've written the song and can't remember the bass line - your own damn part. Dave [/quote] I played the intro to the wrong song once. Strangely it was in the right key for the song we were playing but the wrong key to the song the intro was from. The guitarist managed to come in with something but looked puzzled. Then singer just stood there open mouthed at the drummer, guitarist and me happily playing this mashup no one had ever heard before.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1356040102' post='1906218'] If the world was not going to end tomorrow i would have written a very nasty post, but somehow it all seems a but futile now... [/quote] That's exactly what I mean. All very pointless. Quote my entire reply and add nothing. No wonder it's got to so many pages.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1356017940' post='1905794'] WTBWITW I'm stuggling to see how this topic has got to 130 posts! [/quote] Anyone who starts a strong 10 paragraph post is gong to get plenty of replies. There's a section in off topic about Rants. If you go off on one there's bound to people who disagree. The more info you put in a post, the more you leave out. The best posts are ones that have been carefully considered before anyone starts typing. Otherwise, as been said, you write stuff, delete stuff, edit stuff, then give up and delete everything and bring nothing to the table. We could have all agreed 100% with the OP and given him and ourselves a nice warm fluffy Christmas feeling inside. But we didn't. I don't think anyone has been nasty about it though, have they?

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1356006233' post='1905537'] It works pretty well for Lynyrd Skynyrd... and my own band, Sea Bass Kid [/quote] Indeed. It's for the individual to decide what their band comprises of, who is 'good' enough to play in 'their' band, what their market is and what gigs they play. Was the pub the OP playing in a pub that the guitarist regularly played and had an appreciative audience? The type of audience who like 3 guitarist bands complete with playing behind their head tricks. There is no 'better', or 'best', there is only 'what the audience want'. Big corporate events organisers want safe bands, who play a certain setlist, to a certain standard, dress in a certain way, to a 'fairly' sober audience who've paid a lot of money for a meal and music to dance to. Pub bands don't.

Careful guys.

Yes I know him.

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1355881321' post='1904070'] ... It's probably worth remembering the old advanced driver adage: 'you're never as good as you think you are'. I'm sure there are plenty of professional musicians out there who have seen your band and think you're total hacks, that you were sh*t, that your sound sucks, that your two guitarists (who you spent so much time giving the metaphorical fellatio on page one) were dire and couldn't keep up in a Sex Pistols tribute band, that the singer was off key and the bassist was self indulgent, ugly, talentless and was repelling women away from the stage. But then I'm sure anyone who has spent some time at corporate functions has seen a wealth of useless 'corporate' bands who absolutely reek but think they are awesome. [/quote] This is pretty much what I was thinking when I first read the OP. I've since been corrected though as pertinent details were left out. The whole, we're too good for him to play with us, he'll ruin it, is something that a petulant child would say. Add in the reference to kickboxing - no idea what that has to do with anything. "We're really good", "the guitarist's are awesome", "the guitarists can play any tune", "we played an awesome gig", "He doesn't even know who (insert guitar hero name here) is." Some see it as scene setting? I don't. Learn some humility, it's unbecoming and embarrassing. I've seen pubs and clubs rammed with all sorts of bands. Entertainment is what is important, musicianship is secondary in most cases. Unfortunately.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1355925105' post='1904544'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][b]chaypup, on 18 December 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:[/b][/size][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]+1 I'm afraid. Also, [b]Quote[/b] "Jimmy Page was 21 when he wrote 'Stairway to Heaven', I could play it when I was 18 - I think that says a lot..."Is lifted from somewhere- possibly Spinal Tap [/size][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]The Comic Strip's wonderful 'Bad News' actually.[/font][/color] You may well be right, but I first heard it from Neil in "The Young Ones", (around 1982/3) [/quote] Nigel Planer who played Neil in the Young Ones played Den Denis in Bad News. Adrian Edmonson played Vyvian in the Young Ones and Vim Fuego in Bad News. Vim Fuego: I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22. I think that says quite a lot.

[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1355917537' post='1904358'] ... - Sorry for the OT . Back to Arseholes in pubs ........ [/quote] Indeed. Do I need to be worried as I play at least 4 Free songs and don't know who played bass on any of them. In fact I've played thousands of tunes by almost as many artists and would struggle to name 10% of the bass players.

It's a mechanical device. Moving parts wear. In the same way that strings loose elasticity over time so do speakers. Even if it is the high frequencies that are affected, we all know that it's the highs that define the lows. Bass is bass, what makes bass 'rumbly', 'tight' or a whole host of other fluffy descriptions is the presence and amount of high frequency. My dad had a pair of celestion PA speakers that must have been 30years old. They sounded very wooly, no topend definition at all. We swapped them with new drivers and they sounded different. The sound is going to change over time. We all accept that. The question is whether 10hours is noticable. 30mins is noticeable with my strings but after a year they're as dead as they're going to get. I guess the real question is how long do speakers take to stabilise into that flat part of the slope.