WHUFC BASS

Managed to find a decent desk on eBay and picked it up quite cheaply. Also started on the acoustic treatment today too. I still need to install the computer and hook it up to everything. I also ordered a 16 rack unit which turned up damaged (thanks UPS) so I have an abundance of rack gear waiting for a home.

I also got one of them portable vocal booths and managed to get some Producer's Choice sound blankets to cover it. The results are quite good actually and as it can be taken down it also saves on space.

14 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said:

Since Reverb take a slice, The Bass Gallery prices on Reverb are all higher than on their own website

Just seen that it's £475 on their website. They have two which are £475 but the other one and a much cheaper model cheaper electronics. Not sure how they worked out that price but it's bizarre to say the least .

I can't believe they're selling a 4 string version for this much! I have a 5-string model which was bought new over 10 years ago now and never thought it was worth more than £300

https://reverb.com/uk/item/40291496-traben-chaos?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=1726164661&utm_content=campaignid=1726164661_adgroupid=70264195649_productpartitionid=1259319190223=merchantid=218269047_productid=40291496_keyword=_device=c_adposition=_matchtype=_creative=391637461803&gclid=CjwKCAjw-sqKBhBjEiwAVaQ9a6LVPx4GzeD-8PByap5yEVDHOidW9Vj3XkBmFxV0eI2APNgvUUO1ZhoClWcQAvD_BwE

On 03/02/2020 at 20:36, lancer said:

Also used to play for Pompey 

#Legend

We used to have a keep called Allen McKnight. His nickname was "McKnightmare" for obvious reason. He was dire.

3 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said:

A note which sustains longer will be decaying slower, and that difference will kick in as soon as the attack is over. Comparing fast scales played on a modern piano and an eighteenth century fortepiano, the difference is enormous. Between two otherwise identical basses with slightly different bridges though.... 

That's kind of my point. I do wonder if anybody would notice the difference between the two in a blindfold test. The same goes for different woods used on a bass

1 hour ago, Geek99 said:

Do brass nuts make a difference 

Do high mass bridges make a difference 

From my experience high mass bridge allow for better (or more scope) for intonation due to the lengths of the saddle screws as opposed to the stock Fender bridge. As for the sustain argument, I don't think there's a measurable audible difference. I'd also question why a bass player had an absolute need for more sustain - a guitarist yes, but a bass player?

4 hours ago, kodiakblair said:

Sounds like they've been assembled back to front , or just not seated properly in the first place. 

 

Kmise UK on eBay sold Aklot 22:1 ratio tuners which were drop-ins on HB basses , looks like they've stopped selling those in favour of 26:1.

Sadly the 26:1 have a larger mounting plate , think it's the same dimensions as Wilkinson.

I managed to get a set of Wilkinsons on mine. It ain't pretty looking at the back but it works.

15 hours ago, owen said:

Thanks WHUFC. There will be very little DIY happening, but what builders recommend is often what they have in stock or already know so we are looking for the correct ideas rather than what is right for the builder.

You'd be surprised what some strategically placed duvets can do for sound absorbtion. Obviously won't kill the sound dead, but it'll be a lot quieter to the point where the neighbours won't be banging on the walls.

22 minutes ago, bartelby said:

 

Ah, should be much better than fluorescent tubes. 

 

Definitely. I wouldn't have accepted them as a lighting option because of their reputation for hum and unwanted noise when recording.

2 hours ago, bartelby said:

aren't those lights going to cause noise issues?

They're LEDs so they're supposed to be pretty quiet. I can always record during the day if they do LOL!

OK, they're quite high frequency / pitch instruments so I'd recommend firstly sitting / standing facing the back garden with some sort of sound absorption or diffuser on the back wall. If he's in anyway handy then some kind of isolation booth with heavy blankets or duvets draped over the top. You'd be surprised how effective they are. We've recorded loud guitars (and I mean loud - think a 120 watt 5150 amp cranked reasonably high).  The bottom line is bare brick wall is not going to be good at absorbing sound, especially the frequencies that recorders and violins pump out.

2 hours ago, owen said:

Excellent! Tell us how to do it!

 

 

If sound is an issue then the roof and neighbour's wall will need attention. What kind of roof is on this room? The wall next to the neighbours will need some kind of soundproofing if noise is an issue. If the walls are bare brick wall then sound reflection will be an issue. Can you elaborate a bit more on the concerns and requirements ?
 

4 hours ago, owen said:

I have a friend who needs to convert a garage to give music lessons. There will be no drums so there is no need for super soundproofing. Can I share a plan and ask for advice?

Of course mate. There are plenty of things that I'd do differently and would hate to see someone make the same mistake!

Power has now been hooked up. Blimey ... IT'S BRIGHT !!

Floor is now down. Went down reasonably easy and had two planks left over when everything was done. Skirting board going on at the weekend.

Latest update:

The plastering got done in a day and took over a week to dry fully, even with the window open! The walls are really out of kilter to in parts, there was quite  bit of plaster that needed to go on.

Finally got round to painting when it dried. Bought some Leyland trade emulsion. BIG MISTAKE! I was hoping to use my Wagner spray gun but the paint was full of small lumps which continually blocked the spray gun. Eventually decided to use a roller instead. One mist coat and one normal coat did the trick. Toyed with the idea of giving it another coat but it didn't really need it.

Bought the flooring second hand from Gumtree and bought the 7mm Royale Sonic Gold underlay which is the top of the range underlay for both soundproofing and temperature insulation.

Flooring going down tomorrow.

I bought a pair of AX7s second hand (not cheap!!) with the intention of using them in the home studio. I've read great reviews about them but sadly, they're stuck in a box until the studio is finished.

I do realise this post is about as useful as the pope's knackers but hey ho.

1 hour ago, Happy Jack said:

https://www.generators-direct.co.uk/frame-mounted/honda-em5500s-petrol-generator-electric-start

 

At least it'd drown out the din coming from within the studio! 😂

On 27/08/2021 at 15:56, Happy Jack said:

 

Now THAT'S the way to do it.

 

You can never have too many power sockets in a studio. It's not just the absolute number ...  it's also having sockets at just the right place on the wall for this particular kettle lead, or to make up for that one being hidden by a double bass etc.

 

Indeed mate, that was the number one consideration when it came to power. They're all double sockets too which also have USB power to them as well. If I had my way, I would have had more but we've only got one 32amp fuse spare in our house so the recomended number of sockets was around 20. I'm also limited to what I can run so no fan heaters, tumble dryers or kettles. The sparks reckons it should be perfectly adequate for what I'm using it for and said there's no problem using adaptors as long as I'm aware of the ampage of the equipment I'm using.

Plastering almost finished ...

43 minutes ago, Geek99 said:

Roofing vents may work better - we had to put those on our flat roof plus venting on soffits to avoid fire risk buildup of heat 

It's a cold roof so there's vented soffits on there.

47 minutes ago, Geek99 said:

Is a window enough for ventilation? By opening it you’ll defeat the soundproofing and you can’t leave it open when not using as a scrote may invade 

That's something I'm going to look at. There's a ventilation strip on the window and it has a notched handle so it can be opened slightly and secured. I'll see how they perform and go from there. I've also looked into noiseless soundproof vents which I can fit into the door if need be.

17 hours ago, Bassybert said:

Sorry mate I meant internally in the room, such as bass traps, sound absorbing drapes etc

Well, as mentioned I'm planning on getting bass traps and acoustic boards (probably the Sound Mafia sort which look good value). I'm also looking at the Producer's Choice sound blankets for using over the doorway and window and also around loud guitar amps. I'll adjust accordingly depending on the results.

2 hours ago, Bassybert said:

Looking great!

 

Are you planning on treating the walls acoustically at all once they're plastered/painted?

They're acoustic plasterboards that are up there now (that was no fun lugging 40kg plasterboards through the house into the garden on my own!) and there's acoustic Rockwool behind them. Then there's the cavity wall behind that so I'm hoping that will block most of the sound. The ceiling has a double skin of plasterboard and is sealed with acoustic sealant.
I plan on putting bass traps in as well as some acoustic panels along the walls and ceilings. I'm also toying with the idea of doing a vocal booth if the results on vocals aren't satisfactory.

Plasterboard and power sockets all done. Being plastered tomorrow. Originally I was going to dry line and paint it but I just thought if I got it plastered the finish would look nicer, it'd be less hassle for me as I've never done taping and jointing before and it's pretty time consuming. Managed to get a reasonable price for the plastering too so happy days!