Eldon Tyrell

5 minutes ago, Dov65 said:

Received on Monday past...a lovely pair 🙂..

Congrats! Another 77 and the new Ian Hill sig. You are one lucky guy, @Dov65 😉

2 minutes ago, Paulhauser said:

And in action! 🙂

Cool photo 😎

👍

Great voice and killer cover!

5 minutes ago, Billy Apple said:

All this talk of Ian Hill has got me misty-eyed for Priest. My first proper gig was Priest at the Newcastle City Hall on the British Steel tour in '80, along with Maiden who were supporting... it rocked!

It's been a Priest weekend around my house.. and they still deliver..

 

Cool stuff. Watching the video and seeing Rob Halford reminded me of his hilarious COVID advice, especially regarding "toilet roll hoarders" (seems like these are coming back). Not sure if anyone already posted it on BC, so here you go:

1 hour ago, BassApprentice said:

Thought this would be a useful video for many considering the Euro series. So many different variations 😅

 

Him playing a Megadeth song reminded me of SBL's new video showcasing Dave Ellefson's bass collection. Did not know that he also recorded some albums with a black 4 string Spector NS-2 that he shows from 5:35 onwards. Cool stuff. 

55 minutes ago, BassApprentice said:

Thought this would be a useful video for many considering the Euro series. So many different variations 😅

 

Cool video. Like the guy. Knows his stuff. Nice taste of music too. However, the Spector Tonepump is NOT boost only (a common misconception). He also mentions that the 5 string has EMG DC 40 picks but these are TW ones (as correctly mentioned in the subtitles).

3 hours ago, Dov65 said:

Ach...i pulled the trigger on the white Ian Hill it arrives Monday, s'posed to be headbanging @ their Glasgow gig tonight so thats my excuse 🙂

I knew you would 🙂

2 hours ago, Dov65 said:

Spector pipes up and say only 50 will be made.

Well, another good reason to get then one, @Dov65 😎

Great to see another of these lovely 40th anniversary Spector Euro basses 🙂

GLWTS 👍

As mentioned, I think an Ian Hill sig model with a more subtle 12th fret inlay, like on the Mike Starr sig bass, would have been nicer and more attractive to non JP fans. I also like the back of the headstock of the Mike Starr bass. Again, nice and subtle.

46 minutes ago, Dov65 said:

Don't know what version he's playing at the moment but i was supposed to be Glasgow bound on Sunday for Priest & Ozzy 😫...i could have told you then. 

Yeah, the new Ian Hill sig basses look cool. His previous sig used to have a J pick as well but he never used it so they got rid of it as Spector's Taylor McLam mentions in this NAMM video (check from 4:11 onwards). The only issue I have with his new sig is the rather oversized inlay to celebrate JP's 50th anniversary. I would have preferred a more subtle one but hey, it's metal, so bigger is always better 😎

Just now, TheGreek said:

Above bass is a beaut!!

I really shouldn't have come to this thread - now regretting selling mine.

Yes, you should only ever sell a Spector to finance another one 😉

Back to Spector. Saw this on Spector's FB page. Killer looking NS4. The guy for whom it was custom built must be one happy guy. Very jealous 😉

47 minutes ago, Dov65 said:

Lovely for a 30 + y/o 🙂

Kramer Forum III. Well, not really a Spector even if there is clearly some Spector DNA in it (thanks to Kramer purchasing Spector in 85). Not sure about the headstock, too hair metal-ish for my taste. Well, what can I say, I like the sansamp and the skull in the final photo though 😉

4 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

I don't have a 1977, but I do have a table. Does that qualify me to join the ♣? 

Only if your table is in baby poop brown and from 1977 😉

Spector fans, what’s happening? As you know, the Spector Euro 77 is one of my fav basses. Best neck of all my basses and killer tone (DiMarzio Model P pickup). Just saw that BD has one back in stock and at a great price. Check it out and join the 77 club 😎 

11 hours ago, dannybuoy said:

Sounds like a great choice for a Motown bass:

 

Thanks. I like the guy. Good no-nonsense presentation without the usual hard selling BS. The new Pro II sounds indeed slightly more vintage-ish. However, I will go for a used P and put in the pure vintage 63 and some flats. I showed my wife Geddy Lee's big beautiful book of bass (BTW, strong recommendation for everyone's Xmas wishlist. Amazing book!), showed her his P basses and she liked the foam green and Dakota red ones. So, may get one of these if I find a good one.

4 minutes ago, EmaTheMirror said:

This to me says enough.

And I've given up trying to talk about that on TalkBass with US members who are throwing in costs of petrol in different economies and so on and seem to me both rather defensive and missing the point.

Really nice new colours anyway, IMO.

Wow, this is hilarious. I understand that there are costs for shipping basses over the pond, have local distribution etc and that's why I got used to $=£ prices. However, this is getting ridiculous now 🥴

Definitely buying used!

7 minutes ago, Steve Browning said:

You are charged VAT anyway, either from the seller or HMRC when the goods come into the UK.

Thomann (for example) charge you German VAT (as a private UK individual). After 1/1/21 they charge no VAT but HMRC will charge 20% UK VAT + whatever Duty there is when the stuff comes into the UK. Same as any import into the UK (which is what it will become).

I hope you are right and that this will be indeed the case (i.e. no German or any other EU country's VAT, only UK VAT and import duties). Depending on where from the EU you then buy from, you could actually safe money as several EU countries have higher VAT:

https://taxfoundation.org/vat-rates-europe-2019

However, I am concerned we may end up having to pay BOTH EU's and UK's VAT (plus import duty). 

50 minutes ago, Misdee said:

Part of the problem is that they don't want to compete with their own Custom Shop, part of the problem is that they are not very in touch with what discerning players crave from a Fender. 

I am sure Fender know their target market quite well and it probably does not consist of mainly TB/BCers 😉

Reminds me of what Sterling "Big Poppa" Ball once said (back in 09):

"One thing I will tell you. In order to find a home or niche you have to have segment and position that is product driven. Trying to do everything will assure you a new career in hospitality...."Do you want fries with that?"

I wake up every day knowing that I cant make everyone happy...I hope that I can make enough people happy so I can continue to provide for my team and give the world a few extra choices." 

32 minutes ago, Misdee said:

I will reserve judgement until I have played one, but it seems to me that Fender consistently shoot themselves in the foot by offering a "standard" range of American-made basses that, more often than not, are not particularly appealing both sonically and aesthetically.

Part of the problem is that they don't want to compete with their own Custom Shop, part of the problem is that they are not very in touch with what discerning players crave from a Fender.  All of this is compounded by their inconsistent quality control. 

.. and still they are going very strong (obviously helped by the pandemic and a large number of new hobbyists but still). 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/fender-to-sell-more-guitars-in-2020-than-any-other-year-in-history-2750069 

They have a very strong brand (quite some people prefer to read Fender on their headstocks instead of XYZ), come up with some "new" and "exciting" new features (i.e., copying what other companies have been offering for quite some time), some "new" names for already existing finishes (e.g., I read on TB that the new dark night finish was already part of the programme (under a different name of course) back in the late 80s/early 90s, rename their product lines every few years (e.g., Am standard - Am Pro - Am Pro II) to make it "fresh", a few tweaks here and there and that's pretty much it. Job done. I also doubt that their target mark is really open to too much innovation and change (Fender Dimension, anyone?). Quite a success story if you think about it. Two iconic models that have been around for 60 (J) and 70 (P) years without too much change apart from some small changes and a lot of marketing blurb. I mean you could put the 2020 Pro II into a music store back in 57 and it would not look displaced. Can't really say that about too many other products. Pretty amazing, don't you think?   

3 minutes ago, FDC484950 said:

It’s worth mentioning that when the original American Standards came out in 2008 you could have one new for about £830. They’ve more than doubled in price in 12 years, but are they really any better? I very much doubt there’s any significant improvements - given Fender’s sometimes ropey QA, probably less difference between a 2008 and 2020 than two from the same year...

...and considering the thousands of great, worn-in P-basses available used, you’d have to really, really want a new one to pay double. 

Agree, buying used is the way to go!

2 hours ago, cetera said:

Just pick up a Japanese Fender 62 Reissue P-bass, chuck a set of flats on it and 'Bob's your Uncle! '

Best quality control/value for money/sounding vintage Fender P out there imho.... and you'll have money left to add to the pot for another Spector

 

Ironically, I already had the perfect bass for Motown (esp. with the 63 pickup I have) but I sold it to finance a Spector Forte. I mentioned it in the "Sellers Remorse" thread that this is the only one I should not have sold 😒 

6 hours ago, fretmeister said:

Wasn't it only announced a few days ago?

Yes, officially announced yesterday, but probably already in store before that